Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread | Kailer Yamamoto, Will He Stay or Will He Go?

[The Nuge]

I think they upgraded with Dvorak here and it basically involved a swap of a 2nd for a 3rd.

The condition on the 1st is a big deal. They are likely “trading back” from a pick in the 10-15 range to a pick in the 25-30 range now

 

[Cloned]

The condition on the 1st is a big deal. They are likely “trading back” from a pick in the 10-15 range to a pick in the 25-30 range now

Carolina isn’t a guarantee to be that good this year. They lost Hamilton.

 

[tardigrade81]

He stays

next question

 

[SK13]

Dvorak is the better player and the cap implications are way better.

But it's gonna hurt if Kotkaniemi pulls a Sam Bennett in Carolina with Aho.

 

[The Nuge]

Carolina isn’t a guarantee to be that good this year. They lost Hamilton.

Montreal was 14th worst last year, and their summer was lateral at best. Even if Carolina regresses a bit, Montreal is definitely moving back like 10 picks

 

[Spawn]

So the Habs lose their 2nd line C and trade for a replacement within the hour. Three off seasons and counting waiting for Holland to find a real starting goalie...

 

[Ritchie Valens]

The real burning question I want an answer to, is what will Kotkienemi do with that crisp, $20 bill.

 

[Cloned]

Montreal was 14th worst last year, and their summer was lateral at best. Even if Carolina regresses a bit, Montreal is definitely moving back like 10 picks

I think you're underestimating how bad Andersen/Raanta might be.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Montreal overpaid by a mile for Dvorak, I get he can play defense, but doesn't produce much for that money

 

[McTonyBrar]

MTL will regret giving up Jesperi. Mark my words

 

[bellagiobob]

Dvorak to MTL is done…


which comes as a surprise to absolutely no one

I would say 'last one out of the rink in Phoenix turn out the lights', but they won't even have a rink by the end of the year, so ...

 

[Smartguy]

Carolina isn’t a guarantee to be that good this year. They lost Hamilton.

Carolina didn’t just lose Hamilton
Nedjelkovic> Anderson/Raanta at their prices, considering Raanta won’t make 10 games healthy

Hamilton/Bean>Deangelo/Bear

Foegele>Leivo

The KK at 6M, with a career high 35 points.

That team is substantially worse. Too bad for a team that showed lots of promise, and essentially, IMO, just had to stay the course to be a contender.

 

[McDNicks17]

I mean, maybe in the short term. Dvorak is 4 years older.

Four years doesn't seem like much when the alternative was a guy who was four years from hitting UFA and seemingly dead set on getting there ASAP.

 

[Cloned]

Carolina didn’t just lose Hamilton
Nedjelkovic> Anderson/Raanta at their prices, considering Raanta won’t make 10 games healthy

Hamilton/Bean>Deangelo/Bear

Foegele>Leivo

The KK at 6M, with a career high 35 points.

That team is substantially worse. Too bad for a team that showed lots of promise, and essentially, IMO, just had to stay the course to be a contender.

KK has 28 points in 2 years combined. I'm not sure why so many are lauding this move for Carolina.

 

[MettleMcOiler]

KK has 28 points in 2 years combined. I'm not sure why so many are lauding this move for Carolina.

KK would need to have 50+ point season to even come close to earning that contract

 

[Broberg Speed]

He's playing for both teams this season.

pffft 12.2 million, all that extra travel and Mcdavid still makes more, no deal.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Montreal came out smelling like roses.

 

[Alik Bordour]

Montreal has sh**t the bad smelling like stink. They reached for Kotkaniemi at #3 instead of B.Tkachuk and now all they have for him is Christian Dvorak

 

[Tobias Kahun]

So the Habs lose their 2nd line C and trade for a replacement within the hour. Three off seasons and counting waiting for Holland to find a real starting goalie...

The habs lost a 3c and replaced him with another 3c who will have to be their 2c.

I don't know if I would be praising Montreal.

 

[belair]

Montreal with or without Kotkaniemi was going to be bad next season. Trading futures for Dvorak is just an odd move.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Dvorak to MTL is done…


which comes as a surprise to absolutely no one

I hate when teams report like this .. tell us what specific picks they are FFS.

I'm pretty sure it's a strategic PR move to not reveal the value of the picks so that the replies aren't full of complaining.

It's the better of MTL's two 1st rounders in 2022 and a 2024 2nd for those who were wondering.

 

[belair]

Montreal has sh**t the bad smelling like stink. They reached for Kotkaniemi at #3 instead of B.Tkachuk and now all they have for him is Christian Dvorak

For four seasons where the team will be twisting in the wind.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Montreal has sh**t the bad smelling like stink. They reached for Kotkaniemi at #3 instead of B.Tkachuk and now all they have for him is Christian Dvorak

Interesting how you accomplished that feat of mental gymnastics. Why not take it a step further back? If Montreal hadn't tanked and finished where Carolina did during the 2017-18 season, they wouldn't have won the third lottery spot, they would have won the second lottery spot, then they wouldn't have reached for Kotkaniemi and drafted Svechnikov instead. You follow me?

 

[MoontoScott]

I personally think that Foegele is his current replacement and that the likes of Lavoie and Bourgault are his eventual replacements. That said, if we trade him, it needs to be for something of need and not just for the sake of it.

If Yams re-signs with the Oilers then his expectations will have to be fairly modest. I think the Oilers are already looking ahead to 2022-23 which will be a very tight cap situation-- given the raise that Nurse got and also with Puls looking for a new contract. I love Yam's work ethic and skating ability but with the actual goal production we saw last year its going to be a tough decision for both parties.