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Lol. There's a James Neal thread on the Cgy board. Locked after 4 posts.
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When the first post is an F bomb, i don't that thread was going to have a long shelf life
Lol. There's a James Neal thread on the Cgy board. Locked after 4 posts.
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Lol. There's a James Neal thread on the Cgy board. Locked after 4 posts.
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It’s weird. Whenever we get roasted in a trade we admit it and ***** about the trade for years...
I don’t see why it’s so hard to admit for them... or why it’s not even allowed to be discussed in a thread.
Considering Canes, Aho, Ahos Dad, and the entirety of Finnish Hockey have been conspiring to get Pulju traded to the Canes... it better be an overpayment if we trading him to the Canes.
Don’t get played Holland.
Let me get this straight.I agree, Carolina would be an absolutely ideal landing spot for Jesse. He'll probably get decent minutes, Familiarity with Aho and there's a couple other Fins in Haula and Teuvo, not a lot of pressure in that market.
Have to think Carolina believes he would be a good fit for them but you know they want him for a song.
I'd be happy with Gauthier plus 2nd from them for Puljujarvi because I think he'd put it together there and be a useful player for them and I think Canes management believes that too.
Let me get this straight.
You are OK with a poor return because you think Jesse will do well there?
I gather you are not an Oiler fan.
He's going to announce donairs>Little Ceasars and then walk away
I'd say this is the wrong approach. We are winning right now. But there are obvious holes in the lineup. It's better to trade from a position of strength instead of a panic trade if the wheels fall off. If Wallmark is available he plugs a nice hole at center and adds some offense down the lineup. If line three can get going that's a huge boon to the team. It does a lot more for the team than teaching Jesse a lesson.If the Oilers keep winning, Holland will not be trading JP even if he lets him rot in Finland permanently. That is how a GM should deal with this. If you want to get traded, you plant your sorry ass back in Edmonton and build some value so I can unload your sorry butt. Trading JP is setting a precedent for future prospects thinking they can just pout and get traded. This is another Eric Lindros situation where the player is pouting and the GM caved in. Luckily the Nordiques got a kings ransom and ended up winning cups in colorado while Lindros turned out to be a big swiss cheese with a shortened career thanks to Scotts Stevens.
It’s weird. Whenever we get roasted in a trade we admit it and ***** about the trade for years...
I don’t see why it’s so hard to admit for them... or why it’s not even allowed to be discussed in a thread.
I think you need to be realistic about Jesse's value.
Gauthier is a former first rounder who's coming off a solid AHL season. He's a big guy, skates well and a shooter.
I believe Jesse will do better there but it's just an opinion. The facts are that he has struggled as an NHL'er and he's shown to be a bit of a difficult player. Even if he continues to perform well in Europe I don't see his value getting much better then what I've suggested, Gusev ripped up the KHL and only got a 2nd + 3rd.
Ultimately I'd like to see Jesse return to the team with a good attitude, where the team situation is improved overall, accept the role that Tippett envisions for him and build his value in the NHL and either stay with the team or if he still felt he wanted a trade they could likely accommodate him next off season at better value. Obviously this scenario is pretty unlikely however, so my second option would be trade him before Dec. 1 for a player that can help now or assets that can help us get a player that can help now.
well if they really want a shutdown D, I would think they'd listen on a trade for Larsson. If the team is a bit squeamish on Persson, I'd think Risto would be ideal as a PMD to play with KlefSabre fans on their board leaning more to trade Risto Krueger trying ti use him as a shutdown D which is obviously not working but he needs one pair to do that so Dahlin can play but easier minutes
His partner is McCabe so they need a right hand shutdown D. How about Larsson with maybe a pick? See couple of posts saying their own GM should lower the asking price on Risto to get better fit so that makes sense
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Klef Persson
Russell Risto
Kerp Risto 5 on 5 minutes to minimum and load him on power play with McDavid Drai Neal
Sabre fans on their board leaning more to trade Risto Krueger trying ti use him as a shutdown D which is obviously not working but he needs one pair to do that so Dahlin can play but easier minutes
His partner is McCabe so they need a right hand shutdown D. How about Larsson with maybe a pick? See couple of posts saying their own GM should lower the asking price on Risto to get better fit so that makes sense
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Klef Persson
Russell Risto
Kerp Risto 5 on 5 minutes to minimum and load him on power play with McDavid Drai Neal
Bouchard for Risto is not happening unless the Sabres are adding BIG.What about Bouchard though?
What about Bouchard though?
Bouchard for Risto is not happening unless the Sabres are adding BIG.
Plus Risto's cap hit is very tradeable. If Bouchard is ready next season then Risto could be traded, or someone else.Risto is UFA in three years would give Bouch the right time to develop
Bouchard for Risto is not happening unless the Sabres are adding BIG.
Plus Risto's cap hit is very tradeable. If Bouchard is ready next season then Risto could be traded, or someone else.
I think they also incinerated itLol. There's a James Neal thread on the Cgy board. Locked after 4 posts.
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You make a fairly good argument but others do not share your like for Gauthier.
It sounds like an underwhelming return. Holland has seven years to decide. Doing what is best for JP needs to be far down the list.