translation: he plays hockey and looks like he'd be good but he's not really. maybe a miracle happens tho?
Draft Round 5 #152: New York Rangers Select D Rasmus Larsson (Västerås IK J20/Sweden)
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translation: he plays hockey and looks like he'd be good but he's not really. maybe a miracle happens tho?
i dont, i couldn't care less. i just found the writeup funny.
am curious why we insist on almost exclusively drafting big and slow throughout the draft given skating is the name of the game these days, but not like odds are great here someone with that skillset hits either.
He's not Russian that's why he complains. If his name was Larssonov, then he would be great. I don't know if it's his shtick or he's serious. I think he's serious.
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There's no point and it's not nice to slam later round players until you at least start following their post draft progress. People didn't like the Laba (who's he?) pick either and he had a nice season for Colorado College.
The way I look at it is we didn't f*** up our 23 pick. I wouldn't have liked for instance the Sale pick at 20, really wouldn't have liked the Stramel pick at 21 though I could see some rationale for either in the 2nd round. I like Easton Cowan as a prospect also but not as a 1st rounder and probably not as a 2nd rounder. To me those teams kind of f***ed it up. We didn't. Just for that I'm kind of pleased. I'm not pleased that we had to wait until 90 for our next pick but that's another story.
The way I look at it is we didn't f*** up our 23 pick. I wouldn't have liked for instance the Sale pick at 20, really wouldn't have liked the Stramel pick at 21 though I could see some rationale for either in the 2nd round. I like Easton Cowan as a prospect also but not as a 1st rounder and probably not as a 2nd rounder. To me those teams kind of f***ed it up. We didn't. Just for that I'm kind of pleased. I'm not pleased that we had to wait until 90 for our next pick but that's another story.
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does that he only turns 19 this year affect that option?
and that would (obvi) mean he could not later attend NMU...
saw this at EP:
"Drafted 2023, 1 #16 overall by Green Bay Gamblers in the USHL Entry Draft"
he could play USHL for this season, then as planned NMU ...
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CHL (Major Junior) held their Import Drfat this week
Thought Larsson might have been considered, but wasn't maybe as he's already 19
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could play USHL for a season, before entering NMU, or stay in Sweden
Thought Larsson might have been considered, but wasn't maybe as he's already 19
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could play USHL for a season, before entering NMU, or stay in Sweden
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Think I heard he was gonna play in the USHL, might’ve been on a pod with KournianosCHL (Major Junior) held their Import Drfat this week
Thought Larsson might have been considered, but wasn't maybe as he's already 19
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could play USHL for a season, before entering NMU, or stay in Sweden
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Have any overaged draftees ever panned out for the Rangers? I feel like they have historically been a waste of a pick but I am not certain. I'd even extend that thought to how many overage draftees have panned out for the entire NHL
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Dale Weise and Ryan Callahan were both over-agers.
Undrafted players have become every NHL players, so why shouldn't a kid drafted at age 19 or 20?
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Carl Hagelin (19)
Marek Židlický (24)*
Dale Weise (20)
Ryan Callahan (19)
Dominic Moore (20)
Petr Průcha (20)
Nate Guenin (19)
*Good NHLer, just not for us unfortunately
If you identify a 19- or 20-year old that has taken the steps you hope an 18 year old to take, you can definitely have success going with a 2nd or 3rd year eligible draftee. Rasmus Larsson could be one of those guys. He's had a strong season in his D+1, so I am not overly upset with this pick. Dylan Roobroeck though, that's a different story. That pick I don't understand.
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He was.
Born in Aug 1988, he was eligible for the 2006 NHL draft (he was taken in 2007.)
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He was born Aug 23, 1988 and drafted in 2007. He was still 18 at the time of the draft, but he was eligible for the 2006 draft.
So yes, he was an overager, but a young one.
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IMHO i don't think the distaste for second-year eligible draftees holds water
It presumes that the scouting/draft evaluation system is more perfect than it really is.
After about the top 50, its more of a crapshoot than the insiders and pundits would easily admit
If a second-year-eligible's season earns the confidence of a scout, i don't see it as any riskier than any other pick
With 18 year old's, you are guessing their arc, with a second year eligible player you have a bit more data
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I just remember Hagelin playing the full 4 years at Michigan and coming out and not being an 'old' prospect
Yeah and when you get to rounds 6 and 7, and sometimes even earlier, there is a large pool of guys that could be taken at any time. The difference between a guy who goes at the end of the sixth, and a guy who goes undrafted--many years it's totally negligible.
So those guys that go undrafted their first time eligible, for many of them it was basically by the flip of a coin (not literally). If their next season shows improvement, maybe they go in the sixth or seventh their second time. If they show a lot of improvement, they could even climb further, like our guy Larsson here.
Some guys peak early. I remember Shane McColgan, another guy we picked in the fifth who was once much more highly regarded, he was somehow a less impressive player at 19 than he was at 16. Some guys are late bloomers. If you see a guy who was passed over once but think he's taken a big step developmentally, in the later rounds I think it's worth a shot.
We just did the same with Laba and Mancini and I think early returns on both are positive.
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Dale Weise, though it wasn't with NYR.
I was very angry when we traded down from Scott Reedy to pick a double overager in Brandon Crawley who had, in my opinion, zero chance of being an NHL player, but that's an old wound by now.
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