Prospect Info: Round 5, 135th overall: Carter Sotheran, RHD, Portland (WHL)
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Luckily at this rate we’ll be using multiple goalies on the ice at once, so we’re in good shape.
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Pittsburgh won a Cup without Letang. That's the best I can do.
It looked like this
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They can f*** off. I'm much more interested in the implications of it theoretically, the ramifications, the ins and outs, the hows of it, that sort of shit.
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Ok let's pretend they're a different team that isn't Pittsburgh, Calgary, or St Louis
Seen Sotheran play two years ago a few times in the Manitoba AAA midget league for Pembina Valley Hawks the same team Wade Allison played for a year .
He is big and a pretty good skater but not sure about NHL potential . He has some tools so a 5th round pick is not expensive to see how he pans out .
He is big and a pretty good skater but not sure about NHL potential . He has some tools so a 5th round pick is not expensive to see how he pans out .
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I'm saying that precedent doesn't really interest me. And I love Calgary. And I love Martin Erat and all his children.
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There are few true #1s, Pronger types who dominate games.
Most #1s are really #2s, very good D-men who can play 25 minutes a night and be a positive force.
If you have a couple #2s and can build enough depth to avoid playing #6/#7 types for 15 minutes a night, that can probably balance not having a true #1.
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I am half joking and half serious. I think the Flyers with their current prospect pool hitting their projections and being able to play at the NHL level and eat some minutes, we could have a middle 6 D corp instead of top to bottom.
If we KEEP sanheim, he's proven to not be a liability and eat a lot of minutes. If we have 6 sanheims (different handedness ofc) and our bottom 2 centers are 200 ft 2/3C caliber players Could that put the Flyers in a contending spot? We'll have elite depth at wing (strong 3/4th line), Need a 1C, Hopefully We have Fedotov/Kolosov/Ersson++ in net.
(flip goal tending + extra wings into a package for a mid tier playdriving 1C maybe to make space for Goots and Mitchy).
4 scoring lines, no garbage defensemen, elite goaltending, role playing centers. Maybe that's a sustainable model for a contending team. I truly think the Lopsided top end model will never work, See 2010's flyers for mid tier, current Edmonton/Toronto for the high end. If Edmonton/TOR do win a cup theyll have to blow it up super quickly after or just be stuck draining skill.
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Our 80s teams were kind of like that. We had a true 1D in Howe and a PP deity in Kerr, but it was spread around quite a bit. Our 4th line was pure thuggery, but you replace that with decent two-way hockey players and you may have something. That's where the genesis of this idea came from for me.
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I think in a cap league sustained success comes from line depth. Remember, majority of our Goals Against in this previous era were when the scrubs were on the ice. If there were no scrubs on the ice, our GAA would be way lower. I dont think the flyers will find more elite talent than Michkov, luckily he will be on an ELC until he is like 24. When we pay michkov we have to build a team that can afford him without chopping us at the knees. He will be 12+ Million. If our back end had 6 3-5 million dollar Dmen then maybe we can go ham up front. Also will have expensive goaltenders. Delicate balance. Teams like Colorado/Tampa/Vegas had to rely on really good contracts to win.
The Flyers have never lacked for defensemen who play on the ice like number two's.
And it number one's me off.
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For what it's worth Carter Sotheran with another 3 point night in the third game of the first round of the WHL Playoffs. Stands now at 3g, 2a for 5 points.
In the reagular season his point totals regressed with the same amount of games played like the season before.
If I didn't miss anything he is still unsigned.
23-24, regular season
66 GP, 13G-27A +46
24-25, regular season
66 GP, 6G-27A -7
23-24 playoffs
14 GP, 4G-7A +20
24-25 playoffs
3 GP, 3G-2A +3
In the reagular season his point totals regressed with the same amount of games played like the season before.
If I didn't miss anything he is still unsigned.
23-24, regular season
66 GP, 13G-27A +46
24-25, regular season
66 GP, 6G-27A -7
23-24 playoffs
14 GP, 4G-7A +20
24-25 playoffs
3 GP, 3G-2A +3
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When I looked at him in his draft year, this is the year I thought the full breakout would happen because I thought Cagnoni would move on (he did) and he would take the reins but I didn't foresee them adding adding Jugnauth from Wisconsin mid-year and him staying for an overage year. Jugnauth had 41 PP points this year while Sotheran had 6... Not saying Sotheran is as good, but there's your point upside.
I would guess he would have been signed by now if they were going to sign him. Maybe a big playoff push swings a decision, but never seemed like they were too high on him. In a vacuum I'm OK with walking away from late round picks who are not trending up, but then they go and sign Murchison this week and it's not even close who I would rather take a chance on developing on an ELC. I guess Sotheran activates and tries to push offense more than they like from a defenseman of his size and skillset.
Sotheran would probably benefit by going the slow route and going to play NCAA Hockey if he doesn't sign. He's a bit a late bloomer and he's only played 3 years of Junior hockey. He'll probably get a chance somewhere else if it isn't here.
I would guess he would have been signed by now if they were going to sign him. Maybe a big playoff push swings a decision, but never seemed like they were too high on him. In a vacuum I'm OK with walking away from late round picks who are not trending up, but then they go and sign Murchison this week and it's not even close who I would rather take a chance on developing on an ELC. I guess Sotheran activates and tries to push offense more than they like from a defenseman of his size and skillset.
Sotheran would probably benefit by going the slow route and going to play NCAA Hockey if he doesn't sign. He's a bit a late bloomer and he's only played 3 years of Junior hockey. He'll probably get a chance somewhere else if it isn't here.
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Sotheran with another goal in a 5-4 Winterhawks win after 2. OT.
4g,2A in 4 playoff games.
Portland leads the series 3-1 after Prince Georger took Game 1.
4g,2A in 4 playoff games.
Portland leads the series 3-1 after Prince Georger took Game 1.
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