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Series Talk: Round 2 discussion || North vs South || Leafs vs Panthers

Series prediction?

  • Leafs in 4

    Votes: 3 1.7%

  • Leafs in 5

    Votes: 8 4.5%

  • Leafs in 6

    Votes: 38 21.6%

  • Leafs in 7

    Votes: 61 34.7%

  • Panthers in 4

    Votes: 3 1.7%

  • Panthers in 5

    Votes: 15 8.5%

  • Panthers in 6

    Votes: 38 21.6%

  • Panthers in 7

    Votes: 10 5.7%
  • Total voters
    176
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Gallagbi said:
We looked fine in Game 3, I'd argue better than game 2
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Game 3 was a weird game, alot of deflected pucks going into the net etc.

The trend of FLA getting back to their game started then, really started clogging the neutral zone and forechecking us well.

The difference right now is, FLA getting sustained pressure due to their forecheck and not letting Toronto breakout clean. And Toronto is letting FLA breakout clean without any issues. That needs to change.

Powerplay needs to be adjusted so when FLA pressures them instantly, they pay for it by being out of position. Just need cleaner puck movement and you can catch FLA running around.
 
Torontonian said:
Game 3 was a weird game, alot of deflected pucks going into the net etc.

The trend of FLA getting back to their game started then, really started clogging the neutral zone and forechecking us well.

The difference right now is, FLA getting sustained pressure due to their forecheck and not letting Toronto breakout clean. And Toronto is letting FLA breakout clean without any issues. That needs to change.

Powerplay needs to be adjusted so when FLA pressures them instantly, they pay for it by being out of position. Just need cleaner puck movement and you can catch FLA running around.
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There wasn't a lot of sustained pressure for FLA in Game 3

But I do agree there are some easy adjustments. PP hasn't looked great this playoff, even when it was red hot. D are taking too much unnecessary punishment and were not doing a good job adjusting in game
 
Gallagbi said:
There wasn't a lot of sustained pressure for FLA in Game 3

But I do agree there are some easy adjustments. PP hasn't looked great this playoff, even when it was red hot. D are taking too much unnecessary punishment and were not doing a good job adjusting in game
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Maybe they should switch up that PP. It's pretty awful and I am tired of point shot from Marner that hit shins repeatedly.

It's pretty obvious FLA figured us out. Berube is not adjusting on the fly. Will he adjust to start game 5?
 
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Punch Drunk Loov said:
Based on vibes I thought Woll was incredible. Nylander and Marner were also quite good.

Otherwise a bad game and I feel the creeping Dread
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I don't get the Marner hate last night. He was winning pucks in the corners, competing, standing in the dirty areas. Matthews is letting this line down and the guilt by association gets old. We've all criticized Marner for disengaging physically, well he's done that all series and actually had some success there, so I'm going to note that because it's nice to see the engagement. It's a tough series and he's in there. Now the PP last night was garbage and he owns some of that for sure.
 
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DarkKnight said:
I don't get the Marner hate last night. He was winning pucks in the corners, competing, standing in the dirty areas. Matthews is letting this line down and the guilt by association gets old. We've all criticized Marner for disengaging physically, well he's done that all series and actually had some success there, so I'm going to note that because it's nice to see the engagement. It's a tough series and he's in there. Now the PP last night was garbage and he owns some of that for sure.
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He looked like he was hustling like crazy to me and that's all I want from these guys lol
 
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DarkKnight said:
I don't get the Marner hate last night. He was winning pucks in the corners, competing, standing in the dirty areas. Matthews is letting this line down and the guilt by association gets old. We've all criticized Marner for disengaging physically, well he's done that all series and actually had some success there, so I'm going to note that because it's nice to see the engagement. It's a tough series and he's in there. Now the PP last night was garbage and he owns some of that for sure.
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Whereas I don't get his defenders. I thought he was awful. Constant giveaways and soft play. Too many of those BS floating passes that make the top 10 list in the regular season but never work in the playoffs. When was the last time Marner drove to the net? He's firing pucks at shin pads at the point.

He shouldn't even be shooting from the point. He has a terrible shot. Berube needs to fix that
 
If the Leafs want to change the narrative on their team it needs to start with the Core 4. I am sorry but those 4 have to will the team to victory. When they are producing the team follows. As far as I am concerned there is one change that needs to be done immediately. Kampf needs to be inserted into the lineup. Jarnkrok needs to be taken out. Lines needs to be made as follows:

Knies-Matthews-Marner
McMann-Tavares-Nylander
Patches-Laughton-Domi
Lorenz-Kampf-Holmberg

We can say what we want about Matthews. The guy is playing hurt. Its obvious. He has been all season. But Kampf being inserted helps us on the draw by shifting Domi to wing. We should control the faceoff dots which in turn will control the tempo and time with puck. Thats how we will beat them. Jarnkrok has added nothing and Kampf is a bigger body that is sound defensively.
 
DarkKnight said:
I don't get the Marner hate last night. He was winning pucks in the corners, competing, standing in the dirty areas. Matthews is letting this line down and the guilt by association gets old. We've all criticized Marner for disengaging physically, well he's done that all series and actually had some success there, so I'm going to note that because it's nice to see the engagement. It's a tough series and he's in there. Now the PP last night was garbage and he owns some of that for sure.
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Yep pretty strong effort.
 
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BlueForever75 said:
If the Leafs want to change the narrative on their team it needs to start with the Core 4. I am sorry but those 4 have to will the team to victory. When they are producing the team follows. As far as I am concerned there is one change that needs to be done immediately. Kampf needs to be inserted into the lineup. Jarnkrok needs to be taken out. Lines needs to be made as follows:

Knies-Matthews-Marner
McMann-Tavares-Nylander
Patches-Laughton-Domi
Lorenz-Kampf-Holmberg

We can say what we want about Matthews. The guy is playing hurt. Its obvious. He has been all season. But Kampf being inserted helps us on the draw by shifting Domi to wing. We should control the faceoff dots which in turn will control the tempo and time with puck. Thats how we will beat them. Jarnkrok has added nothing and Kampf is a bigger body that is sound defensively.
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As Bunkis asked last night, Is Marner also hurt. Zero SOG in Florida and 13 in 10 playoff games.

Next game will tell us if these guys have what it takes to win a SC or are just chicken shit in big games.
 
Evilhomer said:
Just like in the Ottawa series, I think the Leafs will benefit from the extra day of rest before game 5.
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The extra day’s rest might be a good reset for them and cool Florida a little bit but Leafs didn’t win Game 5 vs Ottawa either. Played their worst game of the series.
 
Is there any value in splitting up Marner and Matthews?

How about putting Domi with Matthews and dropping Marner on a line with Tavares?

How about giving Nylander his own line to drive?

Knies-Matthews-Domi
Patches-Tavares-Marner
McMann-Nylander-Holmberg
Lorenz-Kampf-Laughton
 
Punch Drunk Loov said:
Also the amount of punishment Tanev is taking is unbelievable. I feel bad for the guy. We're paying a 35 year old to get absolutely mangled.
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Florida has been sending Verhaeghe in after him on the forecheck. I think McCabe needs to see if he can slow down the forecheck while Tanev is on retrievals. The only other course of action is you spend some after the whistle scrums to seriously get some licks in and discourage that behaviour.
 
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Stephen said:
Florida has been sending Verhaeghe in after him on the forecheck. I think McCabe needs to see if he can slow down the forecheck while Tanev is on retrievals. The only other course of action is you spend some after the whistle scrums to seriously get some licks in and discourage that behaviour.
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Verhaeghe is the exact player I was thinking about. He's been a heat seeking missile after Tanev.
 
Maybe it's better to spread the minutes out? Get everybody else involved. Look at the ice time distribution. There are 5 guys, then the rest of the forwards barely play. Berube sucks, Leafs would have won the series with Ottawa with Keefe too.
 
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