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Every series is now 1-3 outside the Leafs one, Toronto is the only home ice team with 2 wins
Series Talk: Round 2 discussion || North vs South || Leafs vs Panthers
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seventieslord
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I hope the guys have thought about how the goaltending field is getting soft AF here. If they can just find a way through this series, they get Freddie Andersen (most likely) and after him, there's about a 50% chance you get either Skinner or Hellebuyck. Don't blow this opportunity!
TopCheeseShotta
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Leafs/Stars final seems most likely at this point.
weems
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My original Leafs/Vegas Cup final bet is not looking as good right now. I wasn't expecting Vegas to fall apart against Edmonton.
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The team was 60 minutes away at one point from leading the series 3-0 lol.
If 16 and 34 had played at even 75-80% of their abilities over the last couple games.......
What a wasted opportunity
If 16 and 34 had played at even 75-80% of their abilities over the last couple games.......
What a wasted opportunity
One shot away from being up 3-0.
Weird thing, the Leafs have a winning record with every member of the Core 5 out of the lineup except one...
seventieslord
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Postseason player reviews. Somewhat weighted towards salary/expectations and heavily weighted towards the importance of the games.
Benoit: A. He is a warrior who's never had anything handed to him. Plays each game like it could be his last. A hero on two key OT goals. Impossible not to like the guy. Cheap.
Knies: B+. I love the guy as much as anyone. I'm not sure he's our future captain and I'm not sure he's a real superstar. But the promise is there. Love his size, speed, and effort.
Nylander: B. Gotta love 15 points but there's a reason he's still -1. Nonetheless, he came through for us in key moments when we needed him. Contract will age poorly, but it hasn't yet.
Tanev: B. Was well on his way to an A but three shaky games have dogged him, he unfortunately may be breaking down. But an absolute culture setter.
Pacioretty: B. For a PTO player, how can you complain about what he has done? For a brief time in games that feel like months ago, he made beautiful music with Tavares and Nylander, and he plays a heavy game.
Stolarz: B. Absolutely nothing wrong with his regular season., Playoffs he was "good enough" but not really a game stealer. Getting injured hurts. Losing a goalie isn't the same as losing a forward or D - it hurts. Staying healthy is so important.
McCabe: B-. Performed adequately most of the time.
OEL: B-. Really was wrong about him, thought he was washed up, but he's a strong 3rd pairing PMD and way more physical and tough than I ever realized. Came up with big goals for us too.
Kampf: C+. In just one game I was sold. The guy looks like he's 14 but he has guts. And he really cared tonight and was making things happen.
Tavares: C+. Hate the contract. The player is pretty good. I don't think he could drive even a 2nd line but he makes it work with Nylander doing the heavy lifting and he can score on the PP.
Laughton: C. Could end up being a culture setting player for us. His results have really been a mixed bag but the effort is always there and he fights back when no one else does.
Lorentz: C. For a PTO player making minimum you can't complain about how he's performed.
Carlo: C. Started off really strong but has tailed off. Likely to thrive in a Berube system going forward, whatever it looks like otherwise.
Domi: C-. It's a real mixed bag for him. Key offensive plays. Grit and pushback. Bad defense. Stupid penalties.
Woll: D+. Was good for most of the season. Can't fault him for game 1. Could've been better in game 2. Game 3 was on him more than anyone else and game 4 was too little too late. Unfortunately game 3 is all we're gonna remember.
Rielly: D+. Talk about an ugly contract. He seems to score big playoff goals for us regularly but I wonder how we'd look if he wasn't playing such ghastly defense almost all the time.
Robertson: D+. Not built for playoffs. A lot of us thought we'd seen the last of him after his performance in the first 2 games. Takes bad penalties. His secondary offense is replaceable.
Holmberg: D+. Just zero offensive ability even if the effort is there and he showed signs of pushback a while back.
McMann: D. Has no idea how to find that extra gear. Seemed like the same fast skating, big, physical guy he's always been but was completely neutralized. One expected guys like Holmberg and Jarnkrok to be neutralized but he seemed like he could be an emerging Pacioretty style guy who had the jam to break through playoff defenses. A major disappointment.
Jarnkrok: D-. His injury broke him permanently I think. He's just another Holmberg now, after a decade of being a pretty above average NHL forward.
Marner: F. Can't be rid of this motherf***er fast enough. The only reason he's listed ahead of Matthews is because he at least has a motor and can carry the puck and give the impression that he might make something happen.
Matthews: F-. Makes nothing happen. Plays go to his stick to die. Absolutely worthless captain and the biggest fraud to ever cast his stink upon this team. Be gone.
Benoit: A. He is a warrior who's never had anything handed to him. Plays each game like it could be his last. A hero on two key OT goals. Impossible not to like the guy. Cheap.
Knies: B+. I love the guy as much as anyone. I'm not sure he's our future captain and I'm not sure he's a real superstar. But the promise is there. Love his size, speed, and effort.
Nylander: B. Gotta love 15 points but there's a reason he's still -1. Nonetheless, he came through for us in key moments when we needed him. Contract will age poorly, but it hasn't yet.
Tanev: B. Was well on his way to an A but three shaky games have dogged him, he unfortunately may be breaking down. But an absolute culture setter.
Pacioretty: B. For a PTO player, how can you complain about what he has done? For a brief time in games that feel like months ago, he made beautiful music with Tavares and Nylander, and he plays a heavy game.
Stolarz: B. Absolutely nothing wrong with his regular season., Playoffs he was "good enough" but not really a game stealer. Getting injured hurts. Losing a goalie isn't the same as losing a forward or D - it hurts. Staying healthy is so important.
McCabe: B-. Performed adequately most of the time.
OEL: B-. Really was wrong about him, thought he was washed up, but he's a strong 3rd pairing PMD and way more physical and tough than I ever realized. Came up with big goals for us too.
Kampf: C+. In just one game I was sold. The guy looks like he's 14 but he has guts. And he really cared tonight and was making things happen.
Tavares: C+. Hate the contract. The player is pretty good. I don't think he could drive even a 2nd line but he makes it work with Nylander doing the heavy lifting and he can score on the PP.
Laughton: C. Could end up being a culture setting player for us. His results have really been a mixed bag but the effort is always there and he fights back when no one else does.
Lorentz: C. For a PTO player making minimum you can't complain about how he's performed.
Carlo: C. Started off really strong but has tailed off. Likely to thrive in a Berube system going forward, whatever it looks like otherwise.
Domi: C-. It's a real mixed bag for him. Key offensive plays. Grit and pushback. Bad defense. Stupid penalties.
Woll: D+. Was good for most of the season. Can't fault him for game 1. Could've been better in game 2. Game 3 was on him more than anyone else and game 4 was too little too late. Unfortunately game 3 is all we're gonna remember.
Rielly: D+. Talk about an ugly contract. He seems to score big playoff goals for us regularly but I wonder how we'd look if he wasn't playing such ghastly defense almost all the time.
Robertson: D+. Not built for playoffs. A lot of us thought we'd seen the last of him after his performance in the first 2 games. Takes bad penalties. His secondary offense is replaceable.
Holmberg: D+. Just zero offensive ability even if the effort is there and he showed signs of pushback a while back.
McMann: D. Has no idea how to find that extra gear. Seemed like the same fast skating, big, physical guy he's always been but was completely neutralized. One expected guys like Holmberg and Jarnkrok to be neutralized but he seemed like he could be an emerging Pacioretty style guy who had the jam to break through playoff defenses. A major disappointment.
Jarnkrok: D-. His injury broke him permanently I think. He's just another Holmberg now, after a decade of being a pretty above average NHL forward.
Marner: F. Can't be rid of this motherf***er fast enough. The only reason he's listed ahead of Matthews is because he at least has a motor and can carry the puck and give the impression that he might make something happen.
Matthews: F-. Makes nothing happen. Plays go to his stick to die. Absolutely worthless captain and the biggest fraud to ever cast his stink upon this team. Be gone.
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Lost in all the chaos, that Aaron Ekblad is a menace. There’s playing mean and there’s unhinged, you have problems dude when you’re punching a guy and sticking him on a 6-1 goal.
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LOL, I wouldn't go to that if they paid me.
Yay, lets go to Scotiabank arena and watch the Leafs get destroyed again!
fahad203
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Last night, we didn't have a offensive zone faceoff until 2nd period on 5 on 5
Let that sink in how bad it was
Let that sink in how bad it was
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This group's mental state is so fragile after all the failure they've been through the previous 8 years I honestly believe once that 4th goal went in during that disastrous 2nd period in game 3 they sub-consciously folded right then and there.
They regrouped enough to tie it up in the 3rd but when Marchand potted that OT goal, that was it, they were done at that point. It probably couldn't have been a worse person to score it as well.
Which is why I say every off-season that it's cruel to keep running these guys back, they're psychologically broken. They simply don't believe they can win, and the first sign of trouble it's "uh oh, here we go again." Self-fulfilling prophecy, learned helplessness and all that.
Let Mitch & JT walk, convince Matthews to waive so they can trade him (I know it's not going to happen but they simply have to), Nylander & Morgan will stick it out through the rebuild.
They regrouped enough to tie it up in the 3rd but when Marchand potted that OT goal, that was it, they were done at that point. It probably couldn't have been a worse person to score it as well.
Which is why I say every off-season that it's cruel to keep running these guys back, they're psychologically broken. They simply don't believe they can win, and the first sign of trouble it's "uh oh, here we go again." Self-fulfilling prophecy, learned helplessness and all that.
Let Mitch & JT walk, convince Matthews to waive so they can trade him (I know it's not going to happen but they simply have to), Nylander & Morgan will stick it out through the rebuild.
Blowing a 3-0 series lead is far worse. Better off not being known as the fifth nhl team to do it.
When Craig or Chris said that on the broadcast I almost fell out of my chair... not that I didn't believe it, but just the fact that it was true.
They deserved exactly what they got last night.
So how do they rebound as a team on Friday? It's clear M&M are not leading the charge. I am not sure anyone else impactful enough can step up to be honest.
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So many of those over the years with this core ...
I bet 100 on the Leafs to win the East, I'm amazed that I can actually get 42.23 back if I cash out now. Seems like a huge mistake, I was expecting this to be more like 2 dollars or something LOLOL.
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Honestly i just don't know how you can take a 2-0 lead and 3-1 lead in game 3 and stop working next 176 minutes...
When you see Matthews who suppose to be leafs most difficult player to play against in 1v1 battle losi g every f***ing battle and forcing play over and over again when he just need to work harder
Marner trying for force play over and over again and should attack the net much more
Nylander just come back to his old version and completly stop playing when hes in the defensive zone... He had been great in game for because he was playing a complete 200 game and got the puck much more but je just
That should be leafs 3 best playoff but since period 2 of game 3, they are the 3 worst player of both team...
They learned f***all of their past failure, they judt accepted to lost
When you see Matthews who suppose to be leafs most difficult player to play against in 1v1 battle losi g every f***ing battle and forcing play over and over again when he just need to work harder
Marner trying for force play over and over again and should attack the net much more
Nylander just come back to his old version and completly stop playing when hes in the defensive zone... He had been great in game for because he was playing a complete 200 game and got the puck much more but je just
That should be leafs 3 best playoff but since period 2 of game 3, they are the 3 worst player of both team...
They learned f***all of their past failure, they judt accepted to lost
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