Throttle
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Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build
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doublechili
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Each of them taken individually are not bad players (and I love Romanov and still like Pulock), but you can't have Romanov, Pelech, Pulock and Mayfield as 4 of your 6 D in today's NHL. Especially with a forward group that's not elite. Something's gotta give. Roy and Mayfield don't mix and that seems to be the no-brainer, but do you also move Pulock or Pelech?
Glory Days
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I think you need to move 2 of Pelech, Pulock and Mayfield. First Bridge call up is likely George and he isn’t much of a puck mover.
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Maybe not 100% because who knows what the new GM will want to do, but given that our only other options on the left side right now that are under contract are Pelech and George I would be shocked if Romanov wasn’t locked up. Just don’t see a point in us moving him when he fits in as the team is now and also is young enough where he’ll fit in when we’re ready to be competitive.
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Throttle
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I see Turcotte as a player in UFA trade deadline transaction vs a regular transaction. The circumstances of the trade change it’s dynamic.Hear me out.
Jordan Spence + Alex Turcotte
The Islanders should 100% be holding onto Romanov, he’s a guy that’s going to help now and later (and later again in the playoffs).
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Have a hard time seeing the Isles want to part with Romanov.
He's been developing exactly as we could have wished for and brings some things to the tabel that don't grow on trees.
And he has an infectious attitude. Very easy to root for. An ideal 2nd pairing Dman.
Sure, he should get some money now but he's at an affordable phase.
We naturally don't know how the new manager will go about things here but if they move on from Romanov for whatever reason, they're going to have a number of interested parties to choose from.
I'd hate to lose his physical play.
Romanov and Dobson aside, Pulock is the Dman who'd have the most potential to bring back a useful piece, granted he'd have to consent to the deal.
He might be worth more than many of us suspect.
I also think there are teams out there who would be open to targeting Pelech (and even his contract) at a fair and reasonable price. We could maybe get something with his OK but the real gain here would be opening a roster spot.
Mayfield was a +18 last season. And everyone knows he's an unpleasant customer. There are teams out there who could definitely use what he brings but you're either eating 50% of that contract or bringing back a similarly paid player who doesn't fit with the trade partner in a manner Mayfield no longer needs to fit here. He too with have to give his OK, but you're right that Roy obviously had no problems keeping him out of the line-up at times. And it's clear that the "fast-thinking game" Darche has now talked about doesn't scream "Mayfield".
More likely, the opposite.
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Clearly, the fans who have felt a great burden being removed with the dismissal of Lou will have a bit of a hard time going into next season with Dobson, Romanov, Pulock, Pelech, Mayfield, "DeAngelo", Boqvist, and George, even if the group - on paper - certainly isn't the worst one out there.
To even make that happen would mean a nice little contract for DeAngelo and some big money going to both Romanov and Dobson.
But it'd be more of the same and we basically all agree that some of the blueline dynamics simply have to be changed in order to take a next step.
Gotta think that Darche likes a Dman or two out there himself, be it someone to trade for or on the open market.
Here's the current list of upcoming UFA Dmen:
Olliemets
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Really the only trade of a first round pick that was worth it. Getting a young, good D Man with Romanov's qualities at 22 with 100 plus games experience actually helped the club for the long haul, which is what #1 round picks are for.
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All fair points. All good points.
And I guess it speaks to where this team is...Which is nowhere near a Cup WITH Romanov (and all his positive attributes).
The roster really is a mess with not many players that would bring back a good amount in a trade...Or can be traded at all.
Something has got to give and there really should be no untouchables on this roster. Besides if anyone is willing to trade Dobson's upside, then there should be zero objections to trading Romanov - IF the return is legit.
Osakahaus
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for Romanov? I'd say switch Turcotte with someone else.Hear me out.
Jordan Spence + Alex Turcotte
Richie Daggers Crime
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Ah, sweet summer child.
Oh yes, that's true. And they're all on the table.
Personally, putting all thoughts on the on-ice dynamics aside, and due to the contracts Pulock, Pelech, and Mayfield have been given, signing Romanov and Dobson right now to longer contracts at something comparable to market value is a "No-can-do".
We'd immediately be in a contractual blueline quagmire that, if and when things go south, you can only pay your way out of. Probably even dearly.
And Darche isn't coming in here to plug himself in a hole like that. That can't be what the owners have dismissed Lou for.
Darche has to find a way to efficiently create some space to breath on this blueline.
Islander fans should be ready for the possibility that Darche's only option to take a different route for the short- and long-term better is to move guys now who have the trade value.
We may not want them to go but if you can't work miracles with the players your predecessor entrenched you with contractually, then the business plan needs other outlets.
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This said, I do think there are ways to move Pulock, Pelech, and/or Mayfield as described above. Eat some salary and don't demand the world, you might find something.
I remember being surprised by the readiness of Edmonton fans to the suggestion of taking Pelech AND Mayfield in return for Nurse and a sweetener. They even felt the change of scenary would probably do wonders for Nurse. You don't really save money on that but you do free up a spot on the blueline while maybe getting a guy who can simply help you more.
Throttle
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Just trade everyone at this point and be done with it. The isles will have a better chance at winning the Cup in 2050 when the league has 44 teams.
Throttle
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That's good. Moneywise, right on the dot.
When Edmonton acquired Ekholm, he had three more years on his contract.
Pulock's first expires in 2030.
Would that see him devalued in a trade?
There are surely some takers out there, especially with the cap going up.
It's doable.
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Can’t imagine a scenario where Romanov gets traded.
Throttle
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If you are in win now mode, kinda like EDM is/was, then you focus only on the term in that window. The remainder of the term you deal with later on. If you are trying to take the next step like a SJ, then it provides continuity.
Pulock has played very well in the playoffs for the Isles playing a critical role that most teams would covet. He’s no longer an offensive defenseman, once you get over that hump, you see all the other value he brings.
