Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

[Osakahaus]

I’d keep and pay Romanov, trade Pulock.

I still wonder if they trade Pulock because his best years are slowly fading away

 

[Throttle]

If he blocked a trade there, I'm guessing he's not going to want to sign there either.

Think Nelson ends up with some bumpy ending years of his career. He needs to find the right fit for him as a player vs him financially. He’s a fine line player on production vs. getting nothing.

 

[Throttle]

I still wonder if they trade Pulock because his best years are slowly fading away

He’s been great in the past two playoff series - a team should take solace in that. Offensively, he’s now useless.

 

[Osakahaus]

Btw, the Mammoth are completely logical trade partners for one of our defensemen

 

[seabass45]

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They didn't seem all that interested when Dobson was floated.

 

[gordie43]

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Yeah it’s time to bring Bortuzzo home

 

[Spurgeon]

I think he cost himself least 4M-5M by not taking Lou's contract - could be a lot more. In the grand scheme of things, that's not a lot for him. But it also might end up giving him a huge headache.

I can't see how Guerin sells trading Rossi because he's small and then bringing in a guy who was just a huge 0 in the playoffs unless it's at a much lower AAV - 5M and below maybe. So now if he wants to prioritize the $$$ he could end up signing with some random team, nowhere near either of his homes in Minnesota or Long Island.

Guerin makes a lot of boneheaded decisions that don’t get the pushback they should. He’ll ship Rossi off and bring in both Nelson & Boeser on large contracts, which will get a pass because they’re “one of us”.

 

[leeroggy]

I would legitimately rather have Palmieri for 3.5 for 3 years than sign up for Boeser for that long. They serve the same role, and I don’t think Boeser is nearly twice as good.

For his last 500+ games, Boeser is scoring at a 30-goal per 82 game pace. For the life of me, I don't understand why people dump on him. And we finally don't have to watch Mat holding the puck on the left wing on the PP too! Boeser takes up that spot for the one-timers.

Palms is getting more than $3.5 per from a number of teams . . .

 

[isles55]

Pulock has a full NTC, he’s not being traded.

 

[Throttle]

Pulock has a full NTC, he’s not being traded.

Yes, players with all sorts of no trade and no movement clauses are never traded…ok.

 

[seabass45]

For his last 500+ games, Boeser is scoring at a 30-goal per 82 game pace. For the life of me, I don't understand why people dump on him. And we finally don't have to watch Mat holding the puck on the left wing on the PP too! Boeser takes up that spot for the one-timers.

Palms is getting more than $3.5 per from a number of teams . . .

The question is if we're going to get a guy we can depend on for 30 goals per year or if we're going to have another Andrew Ladd situation on our hands. The problem is that in the last four years he's only scored 30+ once and was not pacing for 30 the other three years.

It's not dumping on him, it's wondering if he's worth spending a significant amount of cap space on. And at a time where we've talked about needing to get younger, this doesn't accomplish that, it's going to be yet another 30+ vet on a long term deal eventually.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Guerin makes a lot of boneheaded decisions that don’t get the pushback they should. He’ll ship Rossi off and bring in both Nelson & Boeser on large contracts, which will get a pass because they’re “one of us”.

that would be dumb but the org is so stacked right now that I'm not sure it'll matter

 

[isles55]

Yes, players with all sorts of no trade and no movement clauses are never traded…ok.

They rarely are. And we saw what happened with the Rangers this season what happens when a player with a NTC is forced out. It’s doubtful that a new GM is going to come in and anger the dressing room like that.

 

[periferal]

If he blocked a trade there, I'm guessing he's not going to want to sign there either.

Minnesota Wild.


I've been saying it for months.

 

[periferal]

Three years @ $7.5 million AAV?, thank god he forced Lou to trade him

Nelson is a better GM than Lou.

 

[periferal]

I still wonder if they trade Pulock because his best years are slowly fading away

Who is taking Pulock for anything of value with that contract...?


If we don't want him...Why would anyone else?

 

[impaaaaaact]

Who is taking Pulock for anything of value with that contract...?


If we don't want him...Why would anyone else?

There could be a deal to be made with STL for the Krug contract. They could use some help on the right side.

 

[Strummergas]

Minnesota Wild.


I've been saying it for months.

Seems likely, but we'll find out for sure soon enough.

 

[Throttle]

They rarely are. And we saw what happened with the Rangers this season what happens when a player with a NTC is forced out. It’s doubtful that a new GM is going to come in and anger the dressing room like that.

But they are waived. Historically, once the organization tells the player we want to make a change, the player feels unwanted and moves on.

The situation with the Rangers is one of tact - it’s how the GM went about doing things that went beyond just a NTC/NMC.

Should Darche look to trade Pulock and ask him to waive? Yes. Will he? Doubtful.

 

[doublechili]

FWIW, Nelson will be not quite 35 on UFA day in 2026. So if he's not getting offers he likes, he can gamble on a 1 year deal if someone's willing to up the ante for him a bit. Unlikely, but you never know. Then he can still sign an under-35 contract next July 1st.

 

[isles55]

But they are waived. Historically, once the organization tells the player we want to make a change, the player feels unwanted and moves on.

The situation with the Rangers is one of tact - it’s how the GM went about doing things that went beyond just a NTC/NMC.

Should Darche look to trade Pulock and ask him to waive? Yes. Will he? Doubtful.

And how do you think the rest of the Islanders locker room will feel if Darche forces Pulock out the door like the Rangers did with Trouba? There is no correct way to ask a player to waive their NTC, because it isn’t the right thing to do.

Pulock has been here his entire career, and was a key contributor on some of the best teams this organization has ever had outside of the dynasty years. He has not expressed any interest in leaving.

 

[Throttle]

And how do you think the rest of the Islanders locker room will feel if Darche forces Pulock out the door like the Rangers did with Trouba? There is no correct way to ask a player to waive their NTC, because it isn’t the right thing to do.

Pulock has been here his entire career, and was a key contributor on some of the best teams this organization has ever had outside of the dynasty years. He has not expressed any interest in leaving.

Plenty of players have waived without the Drury method of doing it. Drury went draconian in season with an ultimatum- that’s not the norm and never been so. Compounded by Goodrow, the Rangers made their own unique situation.

Teams change, administrations change, etc. Loyalty Lou is out. Darche probably doesn’t rock the boat with a Pulock, but he can if he wants to make a statement and start changing up the roster complexion.

 

[Glory Days]

And how do you think the rest of the Islanders locker room will feel if Darche forces Pulock out the door like the Rangers did with Trouba? There is no correct way to ask a player to waive their NTC, because it isn’t the right thing to do.

Pulock has been here his entire career, and was a key contributor on some of the best teams this organization has ever had outside of the dynasty years. He has not expressed any interest in leaving.

I could see players waiving a NTC if Darche tells them the plan is a complete rebuild. Players may want to move on if that is the plan. Also if Darche offers up a trade that has appeal to the player then he may waive the NTC. For example St Louis could use a right shot D and Mayfield is from St Louis.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

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That looks horrific.

I don't know much about the Utah farm, and I don't care enough to look into, but if they don't have an impact player coming up for next season, they really need to be trading for improvement should they hope to make the playoffs.

Dobson is potentially available for them. Send us back the Hagens pick.

 

[seabass45]

That looks horrific.

I don't know much about the Utah farm, and I don't care enough to look into, but if they don't have an impact player coming up for next season, they really need to be trading for improvement should they hope to make the playoffs.

Dobson is potentially available for them. Send us back the Hagens pick.

They said no to this. They’re fine with their RD group, center is a bigger need for them and they just happen to have a nice selection of them at the draft.