Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

[impaaaaaact]

Exploring is fine, but I think it's much more likely they just let Bolduc go unqualified than it is that they trade Romanov.

Agreed, but there's still eventually going to be a log jam if you're expecting one of Pulkinnen/Odelius to eventually make the NHL and George already showing that he's capable. If you sign Romanov (and can't move Pelech), there's no spot for either.

By trading Romanov you can either grab a pick/prospect that might come into their prime with Schaefer/Eiserman/Ritchie/Nelson/next year's two picks (and clear 6M-ish off the books). Or you can get top 6 help now, as that will be the biggest weakness in our prospect pool assuming Schaefer is drafted.

 

[Strummergas]

Agreed, but there's still eventually going to be a log jam if you're expecting one of Pulkinnen/Odelius to eventually make the NHL and George already showing that he's capable. If you sign Romanov (and can't move Pelech), there's no spot for either.

By trading Romanov you can either grab a pick/prospect that might come into their prime with Schaefer/Eiserman/Ritchie/Nelson/next year's two picks. Or you can get top 6 help now, as that will be the biggest weakness in our prospect pool assuming Schaefer is drafted.

But that logjam is at least a year away, and more than likely two or more. I think you deal with the logjam when/if it becomes something that has to be dealt with. For next season, there is no logjam if Reilly walks. And even if he doesn't, George could start in Bridgeport and Perunovich could be the 7th or 8th defenseman. The others probably aren't playing in the NHL anytime soon.

 

[seafoam]

Uh... no? We all know you want Misa because you posted it like 15 times yesterday, but they're more than likely going BPA. He's a top 4 LHD, but I wouldn't exactly consider him an untouchable core piece.

With the entire board (including you) calling for more offensive help the entire year and a projected number one defenseman entering the organization, doesn't it make sense to explore a possible return for Romanov before you sign him to a long term deal?

Schaefer likely plays one more year of juniors (or if it was me I’d like to see him in the NCAA, he really needs to get stronger). If that is the case, Pelech will be coming off the books when Scheafer’s ELC expires. The below are all nothing burgers. Romanov is the perfect 2nd pairing D behind Schaefer, I’d much rather trade Dobson.

Also completely fine with Scheafer, but there is no log jam. The vast majority of our prospects unfortunately suck in reality.

Perunovich
Reilly
Pulkinnen
Odelius
Bolduc

 

[SRBisles]

Assuming we take Schaefer and he jumps into the NHL next year (far from a guarantee) I’d like to see our defense shake out like this:

Pelech-Dobson
Romanov-DeAngelo
Schaefer-Pulock

That’s a pretty solid group. Let Schaefer learn and grow with Pulock as his Andy Greene. Wont take long before he’s the top dog.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Schaefer likely plays one more year of juniors (or if it was me I’d like to see him in the NCAA, he really needs to get stronger). If that is the case, Pelech will be coming off the books when Scheafer’s ELC expires. The below are all nothing burgers. Romanov is the perfect 2nd pairing D behind Schaefer, I’d much rather trade Dobson.

Also completely fine with Scheafer, but there is no log jam. The vast majority of our prospects unfortunately suck in reality.

Perunovich
Reilly
Pulkinnen
Odelius
Bolduc

Getting a new regime in Bridgeport could do a lot to change the prospects of Pulkinnen and Odelius. I'm also not really concerned with next season as we're not contending for anything. Thinking 2 or 3 seasons down the line when presumably you'd have Schaefer/Romanov/Pelech/George/Pulkinnen all NHL ready. Maybe there's no reason to tie up that cash with Romanov right now.

I realizing I'm galaxy brain-ing a bit but I don't think it's a super left field concept here. Trade from a point of strength while that player is at peak value.

 

[icelander25]

Assuming we take Schaefer, we have a bit of a logjam at LHD.

Schaefer
Romanov
Pelech
Perunovich
Reilly
George
Pulkinnen
Odelius
Bolduc

Reilly is the only one of those players who is a UFA. Is it wrong to think the second most likely player not to be back is Romanov? He's the highest value player, and needs a new contract.

I think Romanov & Schaefer are obvious mainstays, and Pelech is the one to go. He's one of the older past core that still has a little value. He's the type of player that we should be focusing on moving along with Pageau & Mayfield; guys who are on the brink of expiring and are still slight positive assets to an extent. I think George & maybe one of Perunoivch/Reilly fill the rest out. The last 3 are ahl bound.

 

[impaaaaaact]

I think Romanov & Schaefer are obvious mainstays, and Pelech is the one to go. He's one of the older past core that still has a little value. He's the type of player that we should be focusing on moving along with Pageau & Mayfield; guys who are on the brink of expiring and are still slight positive assets to an extent. I think George & maybe one of Perunoivch/Reilly fill the rest out. The last 3 are ahl bound.

The issue with trading Pelech is his NTC, probably limiting our return for him.


Posters are offering top ten picks on the main board for Romanov. If Romanov gets you Hagens do you make that trade?

 

[Strummergas]

I think Romanov & Schaefer are obvious mainstays, and Pelech is the one to go. He's one of the older past core that still has a little value. He's the type of player that we should be focusing on moving along with Pageau & Mayfield; guys who are on the brink of expiring and are still slight positive assets to an extent. I think George & maybe one of Perunoivch/Reilly fill the rest out. The last 3 are ahl bound.

And if Schaefer is the pick and it'll be a year or two before he makes the Isles, Pelech will be pretty easy to just buy out in his final year or two.

 

[Strummergas]

The issue with trading Pelech is his NTC, probably limiting our return for him.


Posters are offering top ten picks on the main board for Romanov. If Romanov gets you Hagens do you make that trade?

I'd rather move Dobson for Hagens due to his salary demands. I realize that doesn't play into your logjam solution, but Romanov will cost millions less and is the type of defenseman that they Isles don't have a whole lot of.

 

[seabass45]

The issue with trading Pelech is his NTC, probably limiting our return for him.


Posters are offering top ten picks on the main board for Romanov. If Romanov gets you Hagens do you make that trade?

I'd consider it but I also don't think it's much of a possibility. Romanov is solid but not "i'd trade my top five pick for him" great.

 

[impaaaaaact]

I'd rather move Dobson for Hagens due to his salary demands. I realize that doesn't play into your logjam solution, but Romanov will cost millions less and is the type of defenseman that they Isles don't have a whole lot of.

I hear that. Dobson is definitely more frustrating than Romanov but I still see him as higher upside, and yeah we have basically nothing in the pipeline at RHD so I feel that he would leave a bigger hole.

 

[seabass45]

Pelech is also teetering on the edge of his next big hit putting him on LTIR.

 

[Strummergas]

I hear that. Dobson is definitely more frustrating than Romanov but I still see him as higher upside, and yeah we have basically nothing in the pipeline at RHD so I feel that he would leave a bigger hole.

It would. And again, if it weren't coming down to a 8-9 million/year gamble, I wouldn't be so inclined to discuss the possibility of moving him.

 

[impaaaaaact]

I'd consider it but I also don't think it's much of a possibility. Romanov is solid but not "i'd trade my top five pick for him" great.

Yeah, it was a ninth lol. Hagens would have to really slide, and I don't expect him to get past the Flyers.

I just think that if we're doing a little mini rebuild here that is kickstarted by the lottery win, it probably makes sense to add more talent that will come into their prime with Schaefer. By the time he's 22 Romanov will be 30 and starting the back half of his career. I think I'd rather have a Martin/Mcqueen/O'Brien at 22 as well when that happens.

I don't mind the cap space either. In my head, the perfect trifecta summer would be taking Schaefer #1, trading up for Hagens, and then landing Marner. Moving out Romanov could help us with the second and third goal (as could Dobson)

 

[MJF]

Is there anyone here who thinks James Hagens is not NHL-ready and should go back to BC for his sophomore year?

I watched a lot of BU and Hockey East his year, especially from January thru the Frozen Four and I don’t think Cole Eiserman is NHL ready and I thought he had a better year than Hagens did.

 

[SRBisles]

Is there anyone here who thinks James Hagens is not NHL-ready and should go back to BC for his sophomore year?

I watched a lot of BU and Hockey East his year, especially from January thru the Frozen Four and I don’t think Cole Eiserman is NHL ready and I thought he had a better year than Hagens did.

He is not ready and I haven’t seen anyone who thinks otherwise.

 

[MJF]

He is not ready and I haven’t seen anyone who thinks otherwise.

If so, if we pick 1 OA we should be taking a player that's NHL ready. Is Schaefer the only one of him, Hagens and Misa who is NHL ready?

 

[mm11]

Assuming we take Schaefer and he jumps into the NHL next year (far from a guarantee) I’d like to see our defense shake out like this:

Pelech-Dobson
Romanov-DeAngelo
Schaefer-Pulock

That’s a pretty solid group. Let Schaefer learn and grow with Pulock as his Andy Greene. Wont take long before he’s the top dog.

Dont know if Schaefer is ready to play NHL hockey next year. Considering he played all of 17 games last year. maybe one year as an 18 year old in the OHL being top dog leading the WJC and maybe Memorial cup may help

 

[SRBisles]

Dont know if Schaefer is ready to play NHL hockey next year. Considering he played all of 17 games last year. maybe one year as an 18 year old in the OHL being top dog leading the WJC and maybe Memorial cup may help

I agree it’s unlikely, but there’s still a chance he comes in and forces himself onto the team in camp. He’s that good in my opinion.

 

[SRBisles]

If so, if we pick 1 OA we should be taking a player that's NHL ready. Is Schaefer the only one of him, Hagens and Misa who is NHL ready?

It really depends on who you ask. Misa I would say is regarded as the most NHL ready, but Schaefer isn’t far behind at all (if only because of a more difficult position and being barely 18 at the start of the next NHL season.) Hagens is pretty much universally regarded as needing another year as the guy at BC without Leonard/Perreault to defer to. I think there’s a pretty strong case to be made that none of these guys should be in the NHL next year but we’ll see.

 

[Glorydays22]

The issue with trading Pelech is his NTC, probably limiting our return for him.


Posters are offering top ten picks on the main board for Romanov. If Romanov gets you Hagens do you make that trade?

you force him, just like the Rangers did to Trouba!!! No more country club here. I would like to move him to CBJ, heard they were interested

 

[saintunspecified]

Is there anyone here who thinks James Hagens is not NHL-ready and should go back to BC for his sophomore year?

I think Hagens could play in the NHL, and he might really benefit from another year in NCAA. Leonard was puck dominant, and that wasn't a fit. I think a year as the man would help Hagens offensively. (Being on a line with Stiga also wasn't a tip top situation for his goal scoring - he was always playing the responsible role).

I watched a lot of BU and Hockey East his year, especially from January thru the Frozen Four and I don’t think Cole Eiserman is NHL ready and I thought he had a better year than Hagens did.

I don't know. Cole Eiserman had the Cole train working in his favor (i.e. getting passes from Hutson). Hagens was playing third man high most of the time I watched him. Everything that makes me wonder about with Eiserman - his weird stride, brainlock, etc. is pro-ready with Hagens. BU was - despite the group of high end forwards on BC, the better team once they got close to even with goaltending. (their bottom 6 is better, and their D was much better)

 

[seabass45]

If so, if we pick 1 OA we should be taking a player that's NHL ready. Is Schaefer the only one of him, Hagens and Misa who is NHL ready?

Seems like Misa would be most likely to make the leap but I feel like it's possible all three stay behind for another year.

 

[YearlyLottery]

Is there anyone here who thinks James Hagens is not NHL-ready and should go back to BC for his sophomore year?

I watched a lot of BU and Hockey East his year, especially from January thru the Frozen Four and I don’t think Cole Eiserman is NHL ready and I thought he had a better year than Hagens did.

The way I look at this draft is:

1A Schaefer

1D Misa






2 Hagens


Picking Hagens is NOT picking BPA. We will not be mad at Misa come seeing him in NHL action but he would not be the right pick here.

 

[JJ18Sniper]

Seems like Misa would be most likely to make the leap but I feel like it's possible all three stay behind for another year.

From everything i've read so far, Misa is the most NHL ready of the 3.

Schaefer started the season at 17 and missed most of it. He wasn't far from the 26' draft cutoff date.
Hagens needs another year at BC and hopefully fills out his frame.