Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

[periferal]

Why are we giving this guy that much??? For me, he takes another league minimum...If not, there are plenty of guys like him waiting for a job.

Because Lou.

He's legit deathly allergic to letting players walk.

Just one of the myriad of reasons he should be fired immediately befofe he can do more damage.

 

[Glorydays22]

Because Lou.

He's legit deathly allergic to letting players walk.

Just one of the myriad of reasons he should be fired immediately befofe he can do more damage.

This guy needs to be remove ASAP....ban him from coming 50 miles of the UBS arena!

 

[Throttle]

He’s ‘guarded’ but posts on it X. Brilliant.

 

[Throttle]

I don't think the Pulock one is fine. Pulock was paid to score goals. He doesn't do that. If you were paying Pulock for being a lockdown defenseman he would have a similar contract to Adam Pelech--$5 million/yr.

100% - Pulock was paid to be an offensive defenseman. Due to his lack of accuracy and slow arse wind up, it seemed like the coaching staff has shifted him to reduce his offense and shift an overall play.

He’s a solid top 4, but he was paid to bring offense. And the isles still have anemic power play and people wonder why. Isles keep him. Vegas trades him to pay $ for a player with production.

 

[MJF]

Huh? The difference is $400k

The proper pricing for Ryan Pulock should be between $5M-$5.25M/yr.

But my point remains, at the time Lou offered that contract, crossing the $6M threshold was reserved for offensive defensemen.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Why are we giving this guy that much??? For me, he takes another league minimum...If not, there are plenty of guys like him waiting for a job.

He since tried to correct the article but still put another typo - not sure that Rosner knows the meaning of AAV or the term Cap Hit. Seems like it’ll be about 1M a year

 

[Glory Days]

The proper pricing for Ryan Pulock should be between $5M-$5.25M/yr.

But my point remains, at the time Lou offered that contract, crossing the $6M threshold was reserved for offensive defensemen.

I never saw Pulock as an offensive defenseman. I always thought Pulock was the Boychuk replacement. Johnny was paid $6M and Ryan $6.15M.

 

[impaaaaaact]

He’s ‘guarded’ but posts on it X. Brilliant.

The Sheet Blog: NHL coaching’s near-impossible feat

Plus: additional CHL imports on the way, a potential front office gig for Kevin Weekes and more.

t.co

FWIW, Marek is reporting that Kevin Weekes has been interviewing for front office positions and is likely to take one soon. I don’t think any teams have official openings right now, and Marek didn’t mention any teams connected which aligns with the cone of silence.

I wouldn’t be shocked if we see Lou stay on as President and Weekesy brought in as the GM. Weekes played for Lou and was even an Islander for a season. The backup goalie to GM pipeline could live on.

From ownership perspective, it would be a Roy-like hire - big flashy name, former player connected around the league. Would likely mean Chris stays as well, for now. Could mean everyone gets what they want (but us)

 

[Isles72]

He’s ‘guarded’ but posts on it X. Brilliant.

if Botta's basing this on Friedman's 3 minute piece on Malkin during his 32 thoughts pod he's reaching big time . I did not come away from that piece thinking much of anything besides Friedman stating he met Malkin at a BOG meeting and thinks he's a really , really smart guy .

hah , as soon as I post this theres the Weekes ''interviewing for front office job'' post

 

[Isles72]

heres the marek blog with the Weekes comment .

The Sheet Blog: NHL coaching’s near-impossible feat

Plus: additional CHL imports on the way, a potential front office gig for Kevin Weekes and more.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

 

[periferal]

He’s ‘guarded’ but posts on it X. Brilliant.

He has relevant information that sources around the Isles are saying to him to expect job openings.

Then after that report he gives his opinion that he's "guarded" about what that might mean.

Facts...Then opinion based on those facts.

I don't see the problem here.

 

[MJF]

I never saw Pulock as an offensive defenseman. I always thought Pulock was the Boychuk replacement. Johnny was paid $6M and Ryan $6.15M.

Boychuk was more of a weapon on the power play than Pulock is and was more solid in the D zone. Pulock cannot box out an opponent at the crease to save his life. He’s always on the wrong side of the guy’s numbers.

I seem to remember people questioning Boychuk’s contract here but we wrote it off as the price of doing business for the Islanders-a destination nobody wanted to come to 10 years ago.

 

[MJF]

if Botta's basing this on Friedman's 3 minute piece on Malkin during his 32 thoughts pod he's reaching big time . I did not come away from that piece thinking much of anything besides Friedman stating he met Malkin at a BOG meeting and thinks he's a really , really smart guy .

hah , as soon as I post this theres the Weekes ''interviewing for front office job'' post

Friedman said he based his Islanders notes in this pod on Stefen Rosner’s reporting.

 

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[PK Cronin]

I never saw Pulock as an offensive defenseman. I always thought Pulock was the Boychuk replacement. Johnny was paid $6M and Ryan $6.15M.

He was projected to be more of an offensive defensemen. In the four years prior to inking his current contract he had scored 10 goals twice, 9 once, and put up over 30 points three times. His most lackluster season was the one immediately before signing the contract, but that was a shortened 56 game season where he had 17 points. While he didn't put up huge numbers, it was speculated by many that he'd increase his offensive production as time went on. Instead, he's become a ~25 point defenseman who scores 5 goals a year. Maybe I'm misremembering but I believe it was him that fans were talking about the possibility of putting up 20 goals a season.

His contract was signed during the flat cap time period too, and was definitely paid more than Pelech because of this expected offense. The contract is okay right now but it was a bit rich for the production we saw during those flat cap years.

The Sheet Blog: NHL coaching’s near-impossible feat

Plus: additional CHL imports on the way, a potential front office gig for Kevin Weekes and more.

t.co

FWIW, Marek is reporting that Kevin Weekes has been interviewing for front office positions and is likely to take one soon. I don’t think any teams have official openings right now, and Marek didn’t mention any teams connected which aligns with the cone of silence.

I wouldn’t be shocked if we see Lou stay on as President and Weekesy brought in as the GM. Weekes played for Lou and was even an Islander for a season. The backup goalie to GM pipeline could live on.

From ownership perspective, it would be a Roy-like hire - big flashy name, former player connected around the league. Would likely mean Chris stays as well, for now. Could mean everyone gets what they want (but us)

I do not think Weekes brings that same kind of flashy name appeal that Roy does because he's more known as a hockey personality than a great player, but he'd be interesting for sure. I like him as a hockey analyst/personality but other than being a player I'm not sure what qualifications he has for being in the front office. In your scenario he'd have Lamoriello above him so maybe it'll happen.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Lou thinks we still have time for him to use.

 

[Stercrazy]

I think anything less then LL not being the GM or removed from making any final decisions will be the death nail for us fans. Attendance will continue to drop until '99-'00 levels. Maybe then Malkin will make a change? Wash, Rinse, Repeat is getting very old. I just don't understand it.

 

[Glory Days]

Boychuk was more of a weapon on the power play than Pulock is and was more solid in the D zone. Pulock cannot box out an opponent at the crease to save his life. He’s always on the wrong side of the guy’s numbers.

I seem to remember people questioning Boychuk’s contract here but we wrote it off as the price of doing business for the Islanders-a destination nobody wanted to come to 10 years ago.

Boychuk never scored more than 9 goals in a season and had a big shot that rarely hit the net. Sounds like Pulock to me. Perhaps other posters thought Pulock would develop a more well rounded game but I never saw that. Boychuk is better defensively in front of the net likely due to his weighing more than Pulock. Pulock doesn’t get the leverage Boychuk uses to get.

 

[impaaaaaact]

I do not think Weekes brings that same kind of flashy name appeal that Roy does because he's more known as a hockey personality than a great player, but he'd be interesting for sure. I like him as a hockey analyst/personality but other than being a player I'm not sure what qualifications he has for being in the front office. In your scenario he'd have Lamoriello above him so maybe it'll happen.

yeah, honestly not sure what other GMs are on the hot seat right now. Sweeney was thought to be, but they just came out and said he’s coming back next season.

I’m fairly certain Weekes doesn’t have any front office experience, but that might make this both the perfect situation for him (eased in under legend), Lou (he and his son don’t get fired), and ownership (don’t need to fire Lou while still bringing in respected league name).

Weekes can talk about his season at the Coliseum and already has a bit of experience in a Lamoriello org. It honestly makes a ton of sense - and the fact that neither Lou or ownership has addressed the media yet means that it could still be in the works.

 

[SI]

Will Lou and Roy address the media to close out the season?

 

[Glorydays22]

Will Lou and Roy address the media to close out the season?

if Botta is right, I would think Owner needs to address the media sooner than later. If you are changing upper managment. You need time to find a replacement and give them time to assess the roster and sytem before the draft.

 

[periferal]

I think anything less then LL not being the GM or removed from making any final decisions will be the death nail for us fans. Attendance will continue to drop until '99-'00 levels. Maybe then Malkin will make a change? Wash, Rinse, Repeat is getting very old. I just don't understand it.

If Lou is kept on no doubt this franchise would continue to bleed wins, talent, and certainly attendance. The problem is that I don't think it would ever dip to those embarrassing 99-00 levels. Again some of those season ticket packages that were originally sold at UBS were on 5-10 year commitments so even if some season ticket holders wanted out they couldn't get out. And even if they don't go the seats are paid for.

This entire franchise had such good vibes back in 2022. Now the juice is seriously out of the gum and we need an injection of excitement - The kind of excitement that only comes from players Lou is allergic, and incapable, of acquiring.

Thus Lou needs to be removed the way Snow was removed - A total severing of any relationship and responsibilities. If Lou was fired as GM, but kept on as President you might as well not make any change.

Because Lou would still have final say over any hockey related moves (and he's too much of a control freak to not use it) and....What qualified GM would ever come to work here with the recently fired GM being your new boss (much that boss be known "hockey dictator" Lou Lamoriello)?

 

[periferal]

Will Lou and Roy address the media to close out the season?

I'm legit praying they aren't given the opportunity.

If they are then Malkin better come along with them.

Either way...We MUST hear from Malkin (or his messaging through his PR fanboy Ledecky).

 

[periferal]

Lou thinks we still have time for him to use.

And why wouldn't he? The only person harder to find than Scott Malkin is Amelia Earhart.

 

[iggy]

I think anything less then LL not being the GM or removed from making any final decisions will be the death nail for us fans. Attendance will continue to drop until '99-'00 levels. Maybe then Malkin will make a change? Wash, Rinse, Repeat is getting very old. I just don't understand it.

I can't imagine any decent GM would take the job if he knew that Lou would be in the background calling the shots. A new GM would want full autonomy.