Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

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I’m a bit surprised at this. Aren’t these supposed to be grown men doing a job for lots of money? Like STFU and get to work. You don’t have to like each other but you have to work together.
Professional athletes are often babies, living sheltered lives far removed from reality. They are basically only preoccupied with themselves.
 
Yep, that's true, but the goal differential is more positive when he's not.

What's the wins/losses with him in the lineup vs. without? I'm surprised you left those numbers out since you had already made all of that effort!

I'd bet they win more with him than without, which is the most important metric of all.
 
Ok I just did the homework.

Barzal missed 21 games.

In those games this is the Isles record:
8 regulation wins
7 regulation losses
1 shootout win
4 OT losses
1 shootout loss

Using the NHL method this is their record:
9W 7L 4OTL

That’s pretty similar to their overall record. It’s a small sample size, but they did worse in overtime without him. Sort of makes sense given the lack of speed with the rest of our team. 4 on 4 OT is also not real hockey and doesn’t exist in the playoff world but if you’re a bubble team those things count just so you get to the dance.
 

A couple of things about that:

1. as any regular member of these boards knows, JGP being in demand is not possible. I guess what Botta means is that the Isles may only have to attach a 2nd round pick to move him, not a 1st;

2. that's one badly constructed sentence.
 
BTW, if the Isles traded a 1st for Miller, I'm sure the reaction on this board would be... mixed.

Now would this be considered a "retool" move by the NYR? Didn't they just "rebuild" a few years ago? Here are their top forwards, FWIW:

Panarin 33 years old
Zibanejad 31
Miller 31
Kreider 33
Trocheck 31
Lafreniere 23 ("the rebuild")
 

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