Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

[leeroggy]

Great trades here, would love that. Washington checking in on Nelson also good news since they have a nice prospect pool

Cristall and Boston's 2025 2nd for Nelson works for me. We probably need to take back Ethan Bear for cap reasons, his contract is up this year.

 

[periferal]

"A rebuild will destroy this fanbase," they said....







More like Lou is doing the "destroying"...As well as player morale at the same time.

What a joke. Don't know how anyone can defend a President/GM whose work has led to this - And most disappointing is that the owner of this franchise hasn't taken action yet.

 

[Lek]

Honestly do not want to hear crap from our players about attendance....they have more than too many times not shown up and/or showed they did not give a crap when on the ice. If they want the fans to make the effort to make it to the games, it starts with them, the players. I have seen teams with "bottom of the barrel" players play consistently with more effort and desire than this squad this year.

 

[Lame Lambert]

"A rebuild will destroy this fanbase," they said....







More like Lou is doing the "destroying"...As well as player morale at the same time.

What a joke. Don't know how anyone can defend a President/GM whose work has led to this - And most disappointing is that the owner of this franchise hasn't taken action yet.

Wahhh people don't want to spend $40 on parking and $50 on mixed drinks to watch a bunch of spoiled millionaires mail it in every night. Keep crying Mat.

 

[crashthenet]

I'm not sure what you mean, but CBA runs out in a year, so there is word that a new CBA will be done sooner than that and the goal is just before the Stanley Cup final begins.

Perhaps he was referring to escrow?

 

[Big L]

That’s the stupidest fvcking thing I have almost ever seen on twitter, and that’s saying something. Wow what a reach. And the rubes be like ‘yeah f u mat!’. JFC, hockey players, especially pros, don’t give 2 fvcks what’s going on in the stands. Also, FYI you dolts, they can’t hear whatever tf you’re yelling in the stands, either.

 

[Zeeker]

That’s the stupidest fvcking thing I have almost ever seen on twitter, and that’s saying something. Wow what a reach. And the rubes be like ‘yeah f u mat!’. JFC, hockey players, especially pros, don’t give 2 fvcks what’s going on in the stands. Also, FYI you dolts, they can’t hear whatever tf you’re yelling in the stands, either.

Not sure who you’re yelling at, but are you saying the lip reading is wrong and that’s not what he said?

Because if that IS what he said, then he clearly does give a fvck what’s going on in the stands.

 

[mm11]

Ya losing seasons suck.

 

[Lame Lambert]

That’s the stupidest fvcking thing I have almost ever seen on twitter, and that’s saying something. Wow what a reach. And the rubes be like ‘yeah f u mat!’. JFC, hockey players, especially pros, don’t give 2 fvcks what’s going on in the stands. Also, FYI you dolts, they can’t hear whatever tf you’re yelling in the stands, either.

So did he not say that? If he did say it he obviously notices and cares.

 

[seabass45]

A bit crazy but this is easily their worst season since his rookie year. 2022 wasn’t good but it at least had the benefit of the new arena but now the new arena smell has worn off and the parking is worse.

 

[Arsenalogist24]

3 point game in Philly Detroit
Habs W
Rags W

Rags played like a group about to get rewarded with JT Miller possibly. Highlight of the night was Igor getting ran by Senators twice. Nice to see their goalie on the end of some BS finally

 

[LeapOnOver]

The team has signaled to sell. 28th in the league and by far dead last in the conference in GF? Are you shitting me???

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Not saying the team is great, but 'by far' last in goals for. Bruins have 127 with two more games played. They are also a -23 in goal differential, yet 4th, lmao. Talk about stuff that doesn't make sense.

 

[12Dog]

2 wins in a row and Friedman is ''wondering about the Islanders'' as it relates to JT Miller

buckle up

I just threw up in my mouth

That idea? Probably roused Lou from his slumber

 

[impaaaaaact]

Honestly do not want to hear crap from our players about attendance....they have more than too many times not shown up and/or showed they did not give a crap when on the ice. If they want the fans to make the effort to make it to the games, it starts with them, the players. I have seen teams with "bottom of the barrel" players play consistently with more effort and desire than this squad this year.

tbf he was saying it to a teammate, not the press. It took the camera being on him at that exact moment + a bunch of twitter lip readers to make it a thing. Not like he’s whining, just pointing something out to our future captain

 

[Rehabguy]

So did he not say that? If he did say it he obviously notices and cares.

No he did not say that. I happen to be a professional lip reader and had it as a side job working in a day youth center for the deaf. He said something along the lines of “ I had a hot dog from the concession stand on the second floor and they ran out of mustard. Can you fking believe that? Its a fking joke!”

 

[BelovedIsles]

"A rebuild will destroy this fanbase," they said....







More like Lou is doing the "destroying"...As well as player morale at the same time.

What a joke. Don't know how anyone can defend a President/GM whose work has led to this - And most disappointing is that the owner of this franchise hasn't taken action yet.

Put a winning team on the ice, the fans will follow. Mat should not be blaming the fans.

 

[SI]

Put a winning team on the ice, the fans will follow. Mat should not be blaming the fans.

I am no lip reading expert, but I don't see him saying anything like that.

 

[leeroggy]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-islanders/latest-news/spittin-chiclets-new-york-islanders-brock-nelson-minnesota-wild-paul-bissonnette-nhl

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-islanders/latest-news/spittin-chiclets-new-york-islanders-brock-nelson-minnesota-wild-paul-bissonnette-nhl

If only we had any reason to believe Lou would capitalize on this opportunity.

 

[leeroggy]

If only we had any reason to believe Lou would capitalize on this opportunity.

O 'Ye of little faith my friend!

A solid 4 Nations and it will be like finding Baby Mommas hanging out at the Waldorf with me in town . . .

 

[SI]

I had some time this morning, so here is my NHL hockey blog post - hope you enjoy the read -


The rumour mill is heating up as speculation builds around the potential for Lou Lamoriello and the New York Islanders to make a bold move for JT Miller. The Canucks forward seems destined to be moved (and moved to an eastern conference team)—it’s not a question of if but when. As the trade deadline approaches, several teams are reportedly circling, but the Islanders may be uniquely positioned to pull off a deal that addresses their immediate and long-term needs.

The New York Rangers have been linked to Miller, with a package rumoured to include Filip Chytil, pending UFA Ryan Lindgren, and a conditional first-round pick. In my opinion, this offer is underwhelming and leaves room for other teams to present stronger packages.

The New Jersey Devils, for instance, don’t have a 2025 first-round pick to trade but could dangle young talent like Seamus Casey, Anton Silayev, or Simon Nemec. However, their primary need seems to be a third-line center rather than another top-three forward, which could make someone like Scott Laughton a better fit for them.

Carolina is another team lurking in the shadows. They have a first-round pick and a deep prospect pool, but the rumour of a package involving Jack Roslovic (pending UFA) and Jesperi Kotkaniemi is also beatable.

Lamoriello’s history suggests he won’t be content with a short-term rental. He prefers acquiring players who can contribute both today and tomorrow, as evidenced by previous trades for Bo Horvat, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Kyle Palmieri, and Alexander Romanov. The Islanders’ roster feels stagnant after two underwhelming seasons, and it’s clear that Lou cannot bring back the same group if he hopes to push the team into serious contention.

While Lamoriello’s loyalty to his players is well-known, he has made tough decisions before. Josh Bailey and Leo Komarov are examples, and there are questions about whether Cal Clutterbuck—who did not return or retire last offseason—was quietly pushed out. Brock Nelson could be next, especially if Lamoriello decides to capitalize on his current value.

The Canucks’ disappointing season—despite remaining in the playoff race—has led to rumours that management might prioritize futures over NHL-ready players in a Miller trade. This could open the door for Lamoriello to craft a compelling package.

One plausible scenario involves Nelson being traded to Dallas, where he could help solidify their depth. In return, the Islanders could acquire a package including Mavrik Bourque and a 2025 first-round pick. These assets, along with Danny Nelson and Pierre Engvall (to balance the salary), could be flipped to Vancouver for JT Miller.

This trade would give the Canucks two 2025 first-round picks and two strong prospects in Bourque and Danny Nelson to soften the blow of losing Miller. The Islanders, meanwhile, would upgrade their roster by adding Miller, whose age (30) and contract (five years at $8 million AAV) align well with their core.

While the fanbase would likely be upset about losing promising young forward Danny Nelson, it’s worth noting that he’s been impressive and has a high ceiling. However, the Islanders have a history of prospects excelling at the World Juniors but struggling to make the NHL cut—examples include Kieffer Bellows and Oliver Wahlstrom. This could be another case of selling high, similar to the trade involving Aatu Raty.

Looking ahead, the Islanders face significant challenges in improving their roster via free agency. Historically, the team has struggled to attract top-tier UFAs, and the upcoming offseason doesn’t offer many viable options. Mitch Marner and Mikko Rantanen are expected to command $12-13 million, Brock Boeser seems destined for Minnesota, and Nikolaj Ehlers is one of the few realistic upgrades available. Given these limitations, trades remain the most likely avenue for Lamoriello to bolster the team. This potential deal for Miller could be a key part of that strategy.

Notably, the Islanders would still own their own 2025 first-round pick, which could be a top-10 selection. Additionally, moving Kyle Palmieri could bring in more futures to help offset the loss of young talent like Danny Nelson.

It’s also important to note that Canucks GM Patrik Allvin and Lou Lamoriello have a trade history, having worked together on the Horvat deal. This relationship could play a pivotal role in facilitating another blockbuster trade.

If Lamoriello pulls off this move, the Islanders’ forward group would gain a significant boost. A power play anchored by Mathew Barzal, Horvat, and Miller in a 1-3-1 setup could address a longstanding weakness. The team’s top-eight forwards would include Miller, Barzal, Horvat, Anders Lee, Anthony Duclair, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Dmitri Tsyplakov, and Simon Holmstrom. Depending on the cap situation, the Isles might still have room to pursue a right winger via free agency or trade.

This move wouldn’t come without its risks. Trading Brock Nelson would undoubtedly rattle the Islanders’ fanbase and shake up the locker room. However, Miller represents a clear upgrade and a player who could inject new energy into an organization in need of a jolt. Lamoriello has never shied away from bold moves, and this could be the kind of shakeup that reinvigorates the Islanders.

While the Islanders’ history of success in free agency has been mixed, trades have consistently been Lamoriello’s preferred avenue for significant roster changes. Adding JT Miller could be the kind of statement move that positions the Islanders as a more formidable contender in the Eastern Conference. Whether or not this trade materializes, one thing is certain: Lou Lamoriello is not one to sit idly by when there’s an opportunity to improve his team.

 

[Sparksrus3]

Tickets available for Avalanche, Knights, and Stars starting at between 9-12 dollars each. 3 great teams .. costs more to park and get a beer

 

[Big L]

I had some time this morning, so here is my NHL hockey blog post - hope you enjoy the read -


The rumour mill is heating up as speculation builds around the potential for Lou Lamoriello and the New York Islanders to make a bold move for JT Miller. The Canucks forward seems destined to be moved (and moved to an eastern conference team)—it’s not a question of if but when. As the trade deadline approaches, several teams are reportedly circling, but the Islanders may be uniquely positioned to pull off a deal that addresses their immediate and long-term needs.

The New York Rangers have been linked to Miller, with a package rumoured to include Filip Chytil, pending UFA Ryan Lindgren, and a conditional first-round pick. In my opinion, this offer is underwhelming and leaves room for other teams to present stronger packages.

The New Jersey Devils, for instance, don’t have a 2025 first-round pick to trade but could dangle young talent like Seamus Casey, Anton Silayev, or Simon Nemec. However, their primary need seems to be a third-line center rather than another top-three forward, which could make someone like Scott Laughton a better fit for them.

Carolina is another team lurking in the shadows. They have a first-round pick and a deep prospect pool, but the rumour of a package involving Jack Roslovic (pending UFA) and Jesperi Kotkaniemi is also beatable.

Lamoriello’s history suggests he won’t be content with a short-term rental. He prefers acquiring players who can contribute both today and tomorrow, as evidenced by previous trades for Bo Horvat, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Kyle Palmieri, and Alexander Romanov. The Islanders’ roster feels stagnant after two underwhelming seasons, and it’s clear that Lou cannot bring back the same group if he hopes to push the team into serious contention.

While Lamoriello’s loyalty to his players is well-known, he has made tough decisions before. Josh Bailey and Leo Komarov are examples, and there are questions about whether Cal Clutterbuck—who did not return or retire last offseason—was quietly pushed out. Brock Nelson could be next, especially if Lamoriello decides to capitalize on his current value.

The Canucks’ disappointing season—despite remaining in the playoff race—has led to rumours that management might prioritize futures over NHL-ready players in a Miller trade. This could open the door for Lamoriello to craft a compelling package.

One plausible scenario involves Nelson being traded to Dallas, where he could help solidify their depth. In return, the Islanders could acquire a package including Mavrik Bourque and a 2025 first-round pick. These assets, along with Danny Nelson and Pierre Engvall (to balance the salary), could be flipped to Vancouver for JT Miller.

This trade would give the Canucks two 2025 first-round picks and two strong prospects in Bourque and Danny Nelson to soften the blow of losing Miller. The Islanders, meanwhile, would upgrade their roster by adding Miller, whose age (30) and contract (five years at $8 million AAV) align well with their core.

While the fanbase would likely be upset about losing promising young forward Danny Nelson, it’s worth noting that he’s been impressive and has a high ceiling. However, the Islanders have a history of prospects excelling at the World Juniors but struggling to make the NHL cut—examples include Kieffer Bellows and Oliver Wahlstrom. This could be another case of selling high, similar to the trade involving Aatu Raty.

Looking ahead, the Islanders face significant challenges in improving their roster via free agency. Historically, the team has struggled to attract top-tier UFAs, and the upcoming offseason doesn’t offer many viable options. Mitch Marner and Mikko Rantanen are expected to command $12-13 million, Brock Boeser seems destined for Minnesota, and Nikolaj Ehlers is one of the few realistic upgrades available. Given these limitations, trades remain the most likely avenue for Lamoriello to bolster the team. This potential deal for Miller could be a key part of that strategy.

Notably, the Islanders would still own their own 2025 first-round pick, which could be a top-10 selection. Additionally, moving Kyle Palmieri could bring in more futures to help offset the loss of young talent like Danny Nelson.

It’s also important to note that Canucks GM Patrik Allvin and Lou Lamoriello have a trade history, having worked together on the Horvat deal. This relationship could play a pivotal role in facilitating another blockbuster trade.

If Lamoriello pulls off this move, the Islanders’ forward group would gain a significant boost. A power play anchored by Mathew Barzal, Horvat, and Miller in a 1-3-1 setup could address a longstanding weakness. The team’s top-eight forwards would include Miller, Barzal, Horvat, Anders Lee, Anthony Duclair, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Dmitri Tsyplakov, and Simon Holmstrom. Depending on the cap situation, the Isles might still have room to pursue a right winger via free agency or trade.

This move wouldn’t come without its risks. Trading Brock Nelson would undoubtedly rattle the Islanders’ fanbase and shake up the locker room. However, Miller represents a clear upgrade and a player who could inject new energy into an organization in need of a jolt. Lamoriello has never shied away from bold moves, and this could be the kind of shakeup that reinvigorates the Islanders.

While the Islanders’ history of success in free agency has been mixed, trades have consistently been Lamoriello’s preferred avenue for significant roster changes. Adding JT Miller could be the kind of statement move that positions the Islanders as a more formidable contender in the Eastern Conference. Whether or not this trade materializes, one thing is certain: Lou Lamoriello is not one to sit idly by when there’s an opportunity to improve his team.

From what I understand, JT Miller did/does not get along with Horvat. Or quite a few others as well it seems. I thought Isles were interested in Petterson, not Miller. Pretty sure Lou believes in good locker room guys as well, so I don’t see Isles in on Miller at all. Unless only to drive up price for the rags. But, overall, fvck if I know.

 

[PK Cronin]

I had some time this morning, so here is my NHL hockey blog post - hope you enjoy the read -


The rumour mill is heating up as speculation builds around the potential for Lou Lamoriello and the New York Islanders to make a bold move for JT Miller. The Canucks forward seems destined to be moved (and moved to an eastern conference team)—it’s not a question of if but when. As the trade deadline approaches, several teams are reportedly circling, but the Islanders may be uniquely positioned to pull off a deal that addresses their immediate and long-term needs.

The New York Rangers have been linked to Miller, with a package rumoured to include Filip Chytil, pending UFA Ryan Lindgren, and a conditional first-round pick. In my opinion, this offer is underwhelming and leaves room for other teams to present stronger packages.

The New Jersey Devils, for instance, don’t have a 2025 first-round pick to trade but could dangle young talent like Seamus Casey, Anton Silayev, or Simon Nemec. However, their primary need seems to be a third-line center rather than another top-three forward, which could make someone like Scott Laughton a better fit for them.

Carolina is another team lurking in the shadows. They have a first-round pick and a deep prospect pool, but the rumour of a package involving Jack Roslovic (pending UFA) and Jesperi Kotkaniemi is also beatable.

Lamoriello’s history suggests he won’t be content with a short-term rental. He prefers acquiring players who can contribute both today and tomorrow, as evidenced by previous trades for Bo Horvat, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Kyle Palmieri, and Alexander Romanov. The Islanders’ roster feels stagnant after two underwhelming seasons, and it’s clear that Lou cannot bring back the same group if he hopes to push the team into serious contention.

While Lamoriello’s loyalty to his players is well-known, he has made tough decisions before. Josh Bailey and Leo Komarov are examples, and there are questions about whether Cal Clutterbuck—who did not return or retire last offseason—was quietly pushed out. Brock Nelson could be next, especially if Lamoriello decides to capitalize on his current value.

The Canucks’ disappointing season—despite remaining in the playoff race—has led to rumours that management might prioritize futures over NHL-ready players in a Miller trade. This could open the door for Lamoriello to craft a compelling package.

One plausible scenario involves Nelson being traded to Dallas, where he could help solidify their depth. In return, the Islanders could acquire a package including Mavrik Bourque and a 2025 first-round pick. These assets, along with Danny Nelson and Pierre Engvall (to balance the salary), could be flipped to Vancouver for JT Miller.

This trade would give the Canucks two 2025 first-round picks and two strong prospects in Bourque and Danny Nelson to soften the blow of losing Miller. The Islanders, meanwhile, would upgrade their roster by adding Miller, whose age (30) and contract (five years at $8 million AAV) align well with their core.

While the fanbase would likely be upset about losing promising young forward Danny Nelson, it’s worth noting that he’s been impressive and has a high ceiling. However, the Islanders have a history of prospects excelling at the World Juniors but struggling to make the NHL cut—examples include Kieffer Bellows and Oliver Wahlstrom. This could be another case of selling high, similar to the trade involving Aatu Raty.

Looking ahead, the Islanders face significant challenges in improving their roster via free agency. Historically, the team has struggled to attract top-tier UFAs, and the upcoming offseason doesn’t offer many viable options. Mitch Marner and Mikko Rantanen are expected to command $12-13 million, Brock Boeser seems destined for Minnesota, and Nikolaj Ehlers is one of the few realistic upgrades available. Given these limitations, trades remain the most likely avenue for Lamoriello to bolster the team. This potential deal for Miller could be a key part of that strategy.

Notably, the Islanders would still own their own 2025 first-round pick, which could be a top-10 selection. Additionally, moving Kyle Palmieri could bring in more futures to help offset the loss of young talent like Danny Nelson.

It’s also important to note that Canucks GM Patrik Allvin and Lou Lamoriello have a trade history, having worked together on the Horvat deal. This relationship could play a pivotal role in facilitating another blockbuster trade.

If Lamoriello pulls off this move, the Islanders’ forward group would gain a significant boost. A power play anchored by Mathew Barzal, Horvat, and Miller in a 1-3-1 setup could address a longstanding weakness. The team’s top-eight forwards would include Miller, Barzal, Horvat, Anders Lee, Anthony Duclair, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Dmitri Tsyplakov, and Simon Holmstrom. Depending on the cap situation, the Isles might still have room to pursue a right winger via free agency or trade.

This move wouldn’t come without its risks. Trading Brock Nelson would undoubtedly rattle the Islanders’ fanbase and shake up the locker room. However, Miller represents a clear upgrade and a player who could inject new energy into an organization in need of a jolt. Lamoriello has never shied away from bold moves, and this could be the kind of shakeup that reinvigorates the Islanders.

While the Islanders’ history of success in free agency has been mixed, trades have consistently been Lamoriello’s preferred avenue for significant roster changes. Adding JT Miller could be the kind of statement move that positions the Islanders as a more formidable contender in the Eastern Conference. Whether or not this trade materializes, one thing is certain: Lou Lamoriello is not one to sit idly by when there’s an opportunity to improve his team.

I don't know the asks or anything like that so I won't comment on whether or not the offers are realistic but my issue with the trade is that Miller is too old for me. I'd want the team to get younger, not hover around the 30 year age mark. That still puts the team in a win-now mode, which means there would be more deals like that in the future and that will hurt the future. I think there's a smarter way to dismantle this team, collect assets and talent, while getting younger to create a larger window than the one or two years a player like Miller would give us.

 

[leeroggy]

From what I understand, JT Miller did/does not get along with Horvat. Or quite a few others as well it seems. I thought Isles were interested in Petterson, not Miller. Pretty sure Lou believes in good locker room guys as well, so I don’t see Isles in on Miller at all. Unless only to drive up price for the rags. But, overall, fvck if I know.

Horvat already put the kibosh on that. Said he is fine with Miller.