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If our team is compromised of players that are so mentally weak as to cringe and retreat into a coma from fans expressing their frustrations due to poor performance, then get rid of them now! These are professionals!
Well my point is, if people to the games to boo its kind hard to focus on your game plan. Rather wish they stayed home. Where is Mark Parrish when you need him.
 
Upcoming schedule - Isles start a 7-game Home Stretch with all very winnable games -
  1. Ottawa
  2. Philly
  3. San Jose
  4. Columbus
  5. Philly
  6. Carolina
  7. Colorado
Word is Holmstrom and George could be back by the start of the homestretch, which would shift Casey back to the 4th line and Cholowski back to the pressbox, giving them a solid lineup.

For the believers, like Lou and Roy, this is where you'd expect to make up some ground in the standings. You are playing at home, and you're almost fully healthy. A streak and a good run are needed. Nothing short of 5-2 is acceptable, that would put them at 22-20-7 and right in the mix.

If you are hoping for the Isles to sell, you want to go 500, which is unacceptable to be contending.

Come on guys, let's get back to reality! This is a team that it took us 42 games to win 3 games in a row for the first time. We are not making the playoffs. But I will say, once again we will screw up again and finish like 8-9 in the conference in the middle of the pack. Mid 1st rounder and Nelson and Parms still here and we got shit for them leaving

Kaliyev - nope
Sprong - nah
Smith - nyet
Brannstrom - ?????????
Heck no...of all of the 4 above, he is the last I'd consider.
 
This is where you’re an annoying :eek::eek::eek::eek:.

Was that my premise? Did I say that was the case or are you inserting a question that isn’t relevant?

Is any single one move going to turn any team in this league into a cup contender? Or is it improving here and there big and small?

Is that how every conversation should be on here? If I want to converse whether Hutton or Cholo should be our seventh dmen next year, a role that is largely unimportant in a 23 man roster, I’ll do that regardless if it moves the needle or not.

So anyway, we have a fourth line right wing that isn’t physical, isn’t a guy that you can put out to defend a lead and has no points when we had a guy that would have made more of an impact. No not a 70 goal fourth liner like Perif wants, but a more positive impact than what we have.

Whether or not you want to accept it...In terms of winning a Cup it's better to be very good or very bad. This "no man's land" of average/not bad enough where the Isles have found themselves the last few seasons means the Isles have zero shot at a championship, while literally just postponing the pain the Isles need to feel to get back to Cup contention.

So I'm a **** - A total loser who hijacks any conversation and turns into one thing. Guilty as charged, because I care about this team so much and only want to see them win a Cup. I don't want them to sneak into the playoffs only to be ousted immediately yet again. And I don't want them to mildly improve a 4th liner that might a few extra points in the season keeping them away from a blue chip prospect at the top of any draft.

If you're a fan of the Isles and truly want this team to win a Cup, then any conversation about anything but replacing GM is a waste of time. If you don't care about winning a Cup then by all means talk about whatever you want.


Surely they will claim Eric Brannstrom with Romanov and George and Reilly out. Surely they will do this

Random trivia...

Brannstrom was the pick made with the 1st rounder snow sent to Vegas as part of the expansion draft. He was then traded for Ottawa as the "key piece" in the Mark Stone deal.
 
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Whether or not you want to accept it...In terms of winning a Cup it's better to be very good or very bad. This "no man's land" of average/not bad enough where the Isles have found themselves the last few seasons means the Isles have zero show at a championship, while literally just postponing the pain the Isles need to feel to get back to Cup contention.

So I'm a **** - A total loser who hijacks any conversation and turns into one thing. Guilty as charged, because I care about this team so much and only want to see them win a Cup. I don't want them to sneak into the playoffs only to be ousted immediately yet again. And I don't want them to mildly improve a 4th liner that might a few extra points in the season keeping them away from a blue chip prospect at the top of any draft.

If you're a fan of the Isles and truly want this team to win a Cup, then any conversation about anything but replacing GM is a waste of time. If you don't care about winning a Cup then by all means talk about whatever you want.




Random trivia...

Brannstrom was the pick made with the 1st rounder snow sent to Vegas as part of the expansion draft. He was then traded for Ottawa as the "key piece" in the Mark Stone deal.
Your single move to make this team a supposed cup contender is simply to get rid of Lou.

If it was only that simple. You appear to be a big fan of Barry Trotz I bet before this season you would have loved to have him as GM. What if they hired him and he went off spending 100 million dollars on various signings and got the same result on the Island as they got in Nashville?

There's no magic crystal ball and to me the most intelligent thing to do is to go by what you know and evaluate what you see on the ice presently. While I admit special teams is horrific right now their 5 on 5 at least to me looks fantastic compared to what they had been doing over the past 6 years. So you start with special teams. Maybe fire MacLean and hire a new PP coach for example.

Age wise the team has gotten a little younger with the additions of Tsyplakov, George, Holstrom, MacLean and faster with Duclair and we have a number of younger players in the likes of Dobson and Romanov. They have a number of players who while chronologically older but play biologically younger and still have the wheels to be competitive and we have a number of talented prospects on the farm team presently who are just as likely to be game breaking additions to the team as any prospects that may be had in a trade for Nelson and/or Palmieri. So you have to look at that too.

I think if the team just fixes its special teams from here on out they can be a competitive team and if they make the playoffs anything can happen. That may be reason enough to hold onto Nelson and Palmieri. I like what I am seeing and I've seen enough the last 5 games to think maybe we need to do as Lou has done and have faith in the roster.

What people don't seem to understand is you can completely change the roster to a younger, faster team with a bunch of prospects and veteran players and still end up looking like Nashville. There are too many unknowns. Go with what you know. There are no guarantees because the truth of it is only 1 team wins the cup every year and there are 32 teams vying for it.
 
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While in theory the Isles are just 5 point out, they would need to jump 6 teams to get the second wild card spot over the next two months, including a couple who are heating up as well. Anything can happen of course, but the likelihood of that with this team is extremely remote, given how easy it is for teams to get points and with playing each other relatively frequently. Even if the Isles stay hot (does a 3 game win streak count as being hot?) I don't see them making the playoffs. The trouble is if our GM is too stubborn to see it.
 
Whether or not you want to accept it...In terms of winning a Cup it's better to be very good or very bad. This "no man's land" of average/not bad enough where the Isles have found themselves the last few seasons means the Isles have zero shot at a championship, while literally just postponing the pain the Isles need to feel to get back to Cup contention.

So I'm a **** - A total loser who hijacks any conversation and turns into one thing. Guilty as charged, because I care about this team so much and only want to see them win a Cup. I don't want them to sneak into the playoffs only to be ousted immediately yet again. And I don't want them to mildly improve a 4th liner that might a few extra points in the season keeping them away from a blue chip prospect at the top of any draft.

If you're a fan of the Isles and truly want this team to win a Cup, then any conversation about anything but replacing GM is a waste of time. If you don't care about winning a Cup then by all means talk about whatever you want.




Random trivia...

Brannstrom was the pick made with the 1st rounder snow sent to Vegas as part of the expansion draft. He was then traded for Ottawa as the "key piece" in the Mark Stone deal.
yep he was considered can't miss at some point. probably kind of tough being a 5'10 180lb defender in the NHL

nucks fans seem pissed he was waived. at best he might be a young Reilly
 
Come on guys, let's get back to reality! This is a team that it took us 42 games to win 3 games in a row for the first time. We are not making the playoffs. But I will say, once again we will screw up again and finish like 8-9 in the conference in the middle of the pack. Mid 1st rounder and Nelson and Parms still here and we got shit for them leaving


Heck no...of all of the 4 above, he is the last I'd consider.

I am NOT suggesting this team is going to make it. I am simply highlighting the schedule and the team's current play based on Lou's comments that he still believes in this group. IF this team is going to make up ground in the standings, then this is the moment for them to do it.

If the team goes 500 during this 7 game home stretch, then mit should be crystal clear to LOU that he should sell.
 
Looking ahead at the schedule, we play 13 games in the next 26 days. I hope Roy has found the confidence in Marcus Hogberg to give him more starts and not view every game as a must win, so much so that he can only start his NHL goalie, not his AHL backup.

I think 5 starts for Hogberg, including one in each B2B is a reasonable thought.
 
Looking ahead at the schedule, we play 13 games in the next 26 days. I hope Roy has found the confidence in Marcus Hogberg to give him more starts and not view every game as a must win, so much so that he can only start his NHL goalie, not his AHL backup.

I think 5 starts for Hogberg, including one in each B2B is a reasonable thought.
Varly is supposedly skating already so I’d imagine he’s back soon. But yes I agree in a condensed schedule like this upcoming run we cannot drain Sorokin again
 
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If the Red Wings continue to win and play well, IMO, they could be big players for Brock Nelson. There is pressure in Detroit to break the playoff drought. The trade for Nelson would give the Wings a proper 2C behind Larkin, and allows them to shift Copp to LW with Compher and Tarasenko, with Nelson playing with deBrincat and Kane.

Immediate thoughts go to Marco Kasper and a 1st - I doubt the Isles could get both.
I'd rather have the 2025 1st round and a prospect like Max Plante or Carter Mazur (but he is a local kid and has had a ton of injuries to begin his pro career).
 

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