Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build
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No matter how gritty he plays and what a heartwarming story he is, Hudson Fasching has no hands and doesn't belong in the NHL.
periferal
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You won't lose a bidding war when Lou doesn't trade him.
Glorydays22
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Leaving Jeffries in BPT isn't doing him any favors. He has a scoring touch. The Islanders aren't going anywhere. Maybe give Jeffries the Isaiah George treatment and let him play instead of trying to find another Hudson Fasching 4th liner?
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I would definiitely like to see Jeffries called up. He's 22 yrs old now, having a decent year in Bridge. Not every prospect light it up in the AHL.....what does it hurt to see if we have anything with him. Could he be a 3rd liner for us?
Were we ahead or behind the Rangers on the waiver list? Based on the standings, we’re tied but they hold a tiebreaker on us and they also have a game in hand.
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It’s based on last year, not this year, so a majority of the league, including the Isles, passed on him.
According to this, after Nov 1 it’s based on the current standings.
NHL Waiver Rules - The Hockey Writers The Business of Hockey Latest News, Analysis & More
This article breaks down the various types of waivers and offer up examples to help make it easier to understand.
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Throttle
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Ah, maybe it changes like that says. It starts based on last year.According to this, after Nov 1 it’s based on the current standings.
NHL Waiver Rules - The Hockey Writers The Business of Hockey Latest News, Analysis & More
This article breaks down the various types of waivers and offer up examples to help make it easier to understand.
Glory Days
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I’m pretty sure AK’s bad skating was his biggest problem.
No question the Isles need major changes but Kaliyev is dumpster diving.
LeapOnOver
Mackenzie is a hack!
Those sign and trades rarely happen, so to say you could do it like it's an elementary point to your assertion is disingenuous.
LeapOnOver
Mackenzie is a hack!
Foudy can skate better than both of them, lol....yet...they are all waiver players.
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A bit different scenario, but Matthew Tkachuk deal was 100% sign and trade. So, there’s precedent for it.
The argument before that was ‘it’s never happened before so…’ until two GMs do it.
No one ever gave bonuses as ‘salary’ under the hard cap, well, until they did and now it happens quite frequently.
No one ever put an ‘injured’ player on LTIR for the benefit of the cap bc you can’t really do that until someone did and again, it happens quite frequently.
No one ever gave out deferred salary until, well, someone did.
No one ever put a guy on waivers to avoid trade protection until someone did.
MikeyMike01
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Tsyplakov doesn’t count as ‘outside the box’?
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Great, and it worked....so why not try again? This guy didn't cost anything...only 24 yr old
Torrey Redux
Please!
It's a bigger part of the problem than it is given time for on these pages.
Could be no worse than Wahly..... Give him half the chances and we will see
After we unload the dreadful Country Club Glut that we have carried for almost 3 years...
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This may be premature, but I wanted to post it.
This will be my last large hockey blog post for awhile.
This is my busy season coming up. I hope you enjoy the read!
The Importance of James Hagens
The Islanders face a challenging stretch leading to the February break and the Four Nations Tournament. Over the next 15 games, they’ll take on opponents that will test their resilience:
The Islanders have drafted first overall three times in their history. Denis Potvin was the first (Thank You @mm11 ). The second time., Rick DiPietro, was an unorthodox gamble that didn’t pay off. The second, John Tavares, gave the franchise hope, but that hope shattered when Tavares left for Toronto. No fan base understands the sting of betrayal better than Islanders fans. Tavares wasn’t just a star player; he was supposed to be the saviour, the chosen one to lead the team back to glory. His departure reopened wounds inflicted by years of mismanagement, poor ownership, and missed opportunities.
The frustration isn’t rooted in Charles Wang’s era, but in the legacy of owner malpractice: John Pickett’s massive neglect and disastrous agreement with SMG, which bled the franchise dry and stripped it of its financial stability. The chain reaction of poor ownership decisions only worsened with the fraudulent Spano saga and the pigs at the trough - the bleak Gluckstern-Millstein era— an era many fans still regard as the darkest chapter in Islanders' history. The Islanders’ history is a tapestry of highs and lows: the Fishsticks rebranding debacle, the Kirk Muller trade fiasco, whispers of Kansas City, Ziggy Palffy nearly becoming a Ranger, the failed Lighthouse Project, endless arena referendums, and the controversial Charles Wang era. Through it all, the fans have remained steadfast, waiting for a brighter future.
When Wang took over, there was hope, but it came with chaos. The Islanders secured their first-ever No. 1 overall pick, only to shock everyone by drafting Rick DiPietro, a goaltender, despite already having a top young goalie in Roberto Luongo. That move, compounded by the Alexei Yashin trade—giving up the second overall pick (Jason Spezza) and soon-to-be hall-of-famer, Zdeno Chara—defined the Wang years: big gambles with limited payoff. The Yashin-DiPietro era never produced a playoff series win, and by the time Mike Milbury left, the team was bereft of prospects, stuck with a poor roster, and riddled with the aftermath of terrible trades.
Then came the Garth Snow era, where a backup goalie was unexpectedly promoted to general manager. Snow presided over the team’s second No. 1 overall pick, with fans fearing another misstep. This time, he chose wisely, drafting John Tavares over Viktor Hedman and Matt Duchene. The Tavares pick marked the beginning of a long rebuild, and just when the team seemed poised for a breakthrough, Snow pulled off two critical trades for Nick Leddy and Johnny Boychuk. For the first time in years, the Islanders had the pieces to compete, and Tavares delivered the franchise’s first playoff series win in decades with a series-winning overtime goal.
But the success was fleeting and the Islanders couldn’t build on their momentum. They were knocked out in the next round and failed to make the playoffs the next few years and the team collapsed. Garth Snow was eventually replaced by Lou Lamoriello, who faced the critical task of re-signing Tavares. Despite Lamoriello’s efforts, Tavares left, signing with his hometown Toronto Maple Leafs.
The timing couldn’t have been worse: Lamoriello had just arrived, Barry Trotz had been hired fresh off a Stanley Cup win, Mathew Barzal was emerging as a star after winning the Calder Trophy, and a new arena was on the horizon. It was finally the light at the end of a long, dark tunnel. But Tavares extinguished it, and Islanders fans were left with a painful “what if.”
In the years following, the Islanders found unexpected success, their greatest success since the dynasty years, reaching back-to-back conference finals. They came within one goal of the Stanley Cup Final losing in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Final against the Tampa Bay Lightning. Yet that magical run masked deeper issues. The window for that group of players has since closed, and the team now finds itself in need of a reset.
The foundation remains strong, but the time has come for a shake-up. New blood is essential to build on what’s been established and to lead the Islanders into a brighter future.
The Islanders find themselves at the bottom of the standings and a new chosen one has emerged—Long Island native James Hagens. Hagens wouldn’t just be a top talent drafted to turn the tides; he represents a legacy and a connection to the very soul of Islanders hockey.
Growing up on Long Island, Hagens developed his love for the game by watching stars like Patrick Kane and John Tavares. “I grew up watching Patrick Kane pretty closely,” Hagens said. “I would watch all those YouTube videos of him as a kid: those shootout goals and all the highlights. I have always loved his shot; he played a big part in why I love hockey, too.” His admiration for Kane’s skill was matched by his early devotion to Tavares, then the face of the Islanders franchise. “Being an Islanders fan growing up on Long Island, I grew up focused on John Tavares, too. He was a big fan favorite in my family, and everyone loved him. It was tough when he left, but I understand why he went back home.” Here is a link to that full article - Projected No. 1 Pick in 2025 NHL Draft James Hagens: "Always Wanted to Be Like Patrick Kane"
Hagens credits much of his growth as a player to his father, who coached him, “Growing up playing for my dad and Tanner Adams’ dad, they made sure they taught us how to play hockey the right way,” Hagens shared. “You never want to be the guy that’s out there, and no one wants to play with, and you’re not making the right play or being selfish. I learned from them that you need to enjoy being on the ice and make sure your teammates are doing the same and want to be around you.”
Players like Michael Misa, Matthew Schaefer, or Porter Martone might offer similar on-ice value, but Hagens brings something they cannot: a story. He’s not just another promising talent; he’s a symbol of renewal and connection. As the first Long Islander to potentially go No. 1 overall, Hagens embodies the dream of a hometown hero leading the Islanders back to prominence. His selection would transcend statistics and standings—it would be the ultimate narrative of hope and resurgence for a franchise and its loyal fanbase.
If drafted by the Islanders, James Hagens would be stepping into a rare and advantageous situation for a top draft pick. The roster isn’t riddled with glaring holes but instead features strong foundational pieces: a premier goaltender in Ilya Sorokin, a solid defensive core anchored by Noah Dobson, Adam Pelech, and Ryan Pulock, established leaders like Anders Lee, Bo Horvat, and Jean-Gabriel Pageau, and one of the league’s most dynamic forwards in Mathew Barzal. Beyond the on-ice talent, the Islanders pride themselves on a close-knit group and a strong team culture that emphasizes accountability and camaraderie. This unique environment could provide Hagens with the support he needs to find his footing in the NHL. As the franchise's new face, Hagens wouldn’t just represent the team’s future—he could help usher in a new chapter for the Islanders, rooted in talent and tradition.
Re-signing their RFAs and adding James Hagens on an entry-level contract would leave the Islanders with $8–11 million in cap space, depending on the salary cap ceiling. Trading Brock Nelson and Kyle Palmieri could further bolster their flexibility by returning young, cost-controlled talent like Mavrik Bourque or Paul Cotter. These moves would also free up resources to target a top-six forward, with potential options including Nikolaj Ehlers or Brock Boeser.
Imagine the potential 2025-26 lineup:
Lee - Hagens - Barzal
Tsyplakov - Horvat - Ehlers
Duclair - Pageau - Bourque
Cotter - Cizikas - Holmstrom
Romanov - Dobson
Pelech - Pulock
George - Mayfield
Sorokin
Varlamov
Looking to the future, trades involving Nelson and Palmieri could yield first-round picks in 2025. Paired with the Islanders' high second-round pick, they could add prospects like Braeden Cootes, Kashawn Aitcheson, and Kurban Limatov—three top-40 selections. Combined with current top prospects Cole Eiserman and Danny Nelson as well as the Hagens selection, the Islanders’ prospect pool would suddenly rank among the league's best. The roster would transform into one that not only looks competitive but is on an upward trajectory. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
This draft isn’t just about rebuilding; it’s about destiny. James Hagens embodies the Islanders’ chance to reclaim their place among hockey’s elite and re-establish Long Island as a proud cornerstone of the hockey world. Selecting Hagens wouldn’t simply reshape the franchise—it would energize the fan base, turning the page to a new and hopeful chapter for Islanders hockey.
This will be my last large hockey blog post for awhile.
This is my busy season coming up. I hope you enjoy the read!
The Importance of James Hagens
The Islanders face a challenging stretch leading to the February break and the Four Nations Tournament. Over the next 15 games, they’ll take on opponents that will test their resilience:
- 1/9 @ Vegas
- 1/11 @ Utah
- 1/14 vs. Ottawa
- 1/16 vs. Philadelphia
- 1/18 vs. San Jose
- 1/20 vs. Columbus
- 1/24 vs. Philadelphia
- 1/25 vs. Carolina
- 1/28 vs. Colorado
- 1/30 @ Philadelphia
- 2/1 @ Tampa Bay
- 2/2 @ Florida
- 2/4 vs. Vegas
- 2/7 @ Winnipeg
- 2/8 @ Minnesota
The Islanders have drafted first overall three times in their history. Denis Potvin was the first (Thank You @mm11 ). The second time., Rick DiPietro, was an unorthodox gamble that didn’t pay off. The second, John Tavares, gave the franchise hope, but that hope shattered when Tavares left for Toronto. No fan base understands the sting of betrayal better than Islanders fans. Tavares wasn’t just a star player; he was supposed to be the saviour, the chosen one to lead the team back to glory. His departure reopened wounds inflicted by years of mismanagement, poor ownership, and missed opportunities.
The frustration isn’t rooted in Charles Wang’s era, but in the legacy of owner malpractice: John Pickett’s massive neglect and disastrous agreement with SMG, which bled the franchise dry and stripped it of its financial stability. The chain reaction of poor ownership decisions only worsened with the fraudulent Spano saga and the pigs at the trough - the bleak Gluckstern-Millstein era— an era many fans still regard as the darkest chapter in Islanders' history. The Islanders’ history is a tapestry of highs and lows: the Fishsticks rebranding debacle, the Kirk Muller trade fiasco, whispers of Kansas City, Ziggy Palffy nearly becoming a Ranger, the failed Lighthouse Project, endless arena referendums, and the controversial Charles Wang era. Through it all, the fans have remained steadfast, waiting for a brighter future.
When Wang took over, there was hope, but it came with chaos. The Islanders secured their first-ever No. 1 overall pick, only to shock everyone by drafting Rick DiPietro, a goaltender, despite already having a top young goalie in Roberto Luongo. That move, compounded by the Alexei Yashin trade—giving up the second overall pick (Jason Spezza) and soon-to-be hall-of-famer, Zdeno Chara—defined the Wang years: big gambles with limited payoff. The Yashin-DiPietro era never produced a playoff series win, and by the time Mike Milbury left, the team was bereft of prospects, stuck with a poor roster, and riddled with the aftermath of terrible trades.
Then came the Garth Snow era, where a backup goalie was unexpectedly promoted to general manager. Snow presided over the team’s second No. 1 overall pick, with fans fearing another misstep. This time, he chose wisely, drafting John Tavares over Viktor Hedman and Matt Duchene. The Tavares pick marked the beginning of a long rebuild, and just when the team seemed poised for a breakthrough, Snow pulled off two critical trades for Nick Leddy and Johnny Boychuk. For the first time in years, the Islanders had the pieces to compete, and Tavares delivered the franchise’s first playoff series win in decades with a series-winning overtime goal.
But the success was fleeting and the Islanders couldn’t build on their momentum. They were knocked out in the next round and failed to make the playoffs the next few years and the team collapsed. Garth Snow was eventually replaced by Lou Lamoriello, who faced the critical task of re-signing Tavares. Despite Lamoriello’s efforts, Tavares left, signing with his hometown Toronto Maple Leafs.
The timing couldn’t have been worse: Lamoriello had just arrived, Barry Trotz had been hired fresh off a Stanley Cup win, Mathew Barzal was emerging as a star after winning the Calder Trophy, and a new arena was on the horizon. It was finally the light at the end of a long, dark tunnel. But Tavares extinguished it, and Islanders fans were left with a painful “what if.”
In the years following, the Islanders found unexpected success, their greatest success since the dynasty years, reaching back-to-back conference finals. They came within one goal of the Stanley Cup Final losing in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Final against the Tampa Bay Lightning. Yet that magical run masked deeper issues. The window for that group of players has since closed, and the team now finds itself in need of a reset.
The foundation remains strong, but the time has come for a shake-up. New blood is essential to build on what’s been established and to lead the Islanders into a brighter future.
The Islanders find themselves at the bottom of the standings and a new chosen one has emerged—Long Island native James Hagens. Hagens wouldn’t just be a top talent drafted to turn the tides; he represents a legacy and a connection to the very soul of Islanders hockey.
Growing up on Long Island, Hagens developed his love for the game by watching stars like Patrick Kane and John Tavares. “I grew up watching Patrick Kane pretty closely,” Hagens said. “I would watch all those YouTube videos of him as a kid: those shootout goals and all the highlights. I have always loved his shot; he played a big part in why I love hockey, too.” His admiration for Kane’s skill was matched by his early devotion to Tavares, then the face of the Islanders franchise. “Being an Islanders fan growing up on Long Island, I grew up focused on John Tavares, too. He was a big fan favorite in my family, and everyone loved him. It was tough when he left, but I understand why he went back home.” Here is a link to that full article - Projected No. 1 Pick in 2025 NHL Draft James Hagens: "Always Wanted to Be Like Patrick Kane"
Hagens credits much of his growth as a player to his father, who coached him, “Growing up playing for my dad and Tanner Adams’ dad, they made sure they taught us how to play hockey the right way,” Hagens shared. “You never want to be the guy that’s out there, and no one wants to play with, and you’re not making the right play or being selfish. I learned from them that you need to enjoy being on the ice and make sure your teammates are doing the same and want to be around you.”
Players like Michael Misa, Matthew Schaefer, or Porter Martone might offer similar on-ice value, but Hagens brings something they cannot: a story. He’s not just another promising talent; he’s a symbol of renewal and connection. As the first Long Islander to potentially go No. 1 overall, Hagens embodies the dream of a hometown hero leading the Islanders back to prominence. His selection would transcend statistics and standings—it would be the ultimate narrative of hope and resurgence for a franchise and its loyal fanbase.
If drafted by the Islanders, James Hagens would be stepping into a rare and advantageous situation for a top draft pick. The roster isn’t riddled with glaring holes but instead features strong foundational pieces: a premier goaltender in Ilya Sorokin, a solid defensive core anchored by Noah Dobson, Adam Pelech, and Ryan Pulock, established leaders like Anders Lee, Bo Horvat, and Jean-Gabriel Pageau, and one of the league’s most dynamic forwards in Mathew Barzal. Beyond the on-ice talent, the Islanders pride themselves on a close-knit group and a strong team culture that emphasizes accountability and camaraderie. This unique environment could provide Hagens with the support he needs to find his footing in the NHL. As the franchise's new face, Hagens wouldn’t just represent the team’s future—he could help usher in a new chapter for the Islanders, rooted in talent and tradition.
Re-signing their RFAs and adding James Hagens on an entry-level contract would leave the Islanders with $8–11 million in cap space, depending on the salary cap ceiling. Trading Brock Nelson and Kyle Palmieri could further bolster their flexibility by returning young, cost-controlled talent like Mavrik Bourque or Paul Cotter. These moves would also free up resources to target a top-six forward, with potential options including Nikolaj Ehlers or Brock Boeser.
Imagine the potential 2025-26 lineup:
Lee - Hagens - Barzal
Tsyplakov - Horvat - Ehlers
Duclair - Pageau - Bourque
Cotter - Cizikas - Holmstrom
Romanov - Dobson
Pelech - Pulock
George - Mayfield
Sorokin
Varlamov
Looking to the future, trades involving Nelson and Palmieri could yield first-round picks in 2025. Paired with the Islanders' high second-round pick, they could add prospects like Braeden Cootes, Kashawn Aitcheson, and Kurban Limatov—three top-40 selections. Combined with current top prospects Cole Eiserman and Danny Nelson as well as the Hagens selection, the Islanders’ prospect pool would suddenly rank among the league's best. The roster would transform into one that not only looks competitive but is on an upward trajectory. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
This draft isn’t just about rebuilding; it’s about destiny. James Hagens embodies the Islanders’ chance to reclaim their place among hockey’s elite and re-establish Long Island as a proud cornerstone of the hockey world. Selecting Hagens wouldn’t simply reshape the franchise—it would energize the fan base, turning the page to a new and hopeful chapter for Islanders hockey.
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