Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build
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periferal
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I don't know. Certainly someone with the power to authorize that. Maybe even someone who brought another "zero" of a player to the Isles and overpaid him in the process. Ask Botta. He has an idea.
LeapOnOver
Mackenzie is a hack!
Who makes that decision and why would they cut it out?
LeapOnOver
Mackenzie is a hack!
JRD76
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Duclair, who played his junior hockey for the Quebec Remparts, where Roy was the head coach, said that he received a call from his former bench boss on Monday morning.
"He gave me a call this morning and told me that he wanted me," Duclair said when we spoke with him on Monday night. "And when a coach calls you and tells you he wants you on his team, it's hard to say no, especially when it's Pat.
"Obviously, I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I know him very well, and his family very well. I played for him, I know what to expect. So, I think it was a great fit in that perspective."
Well this aged well. Duclair probably regrets signing with Isles and Roy regrets that phone call
"He gave me a call this morning and told me that he wanted me," Duclair said when we spoke with him on Monday night. "And when a coach calls you and tells you he wants you on his team, it's hard to say no, especially when it's Pat.
"Obviously, I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I know him very well, and his family very well. I played for him, I know what to expect. So, I think it was a great fit in that perspective."
Well this aged well. Duclair probably regrets signing with Isles and Roy regrets that phone call
Pandolfo's BU team this season was the most penalized team in Hockey East. At the end of December he gave an interview in which he said he thought his team played undisciplined run and gun hockey too many games. I haven't seen enough of them to notice if that has been controlled more, but following up their disappointing early exit in the HE tournament with the last 2 wins in the NCAAs, especially their grind it out win against a Cornell team which clogged up the middle of the D zone with good sticks to disrupt passes showed a lot of growth in a short time, keeping in mind just how young Pandolfo's team is.
So maybe Jay Pandlolfo could be a good NHL coach, but the jury is out for now.
Don’t think Duclair regrets signing with Islanders because there was no other team left that he hasn’t played for.Duclair, who played his junior hockey for the Quebec Remparts, where Roy was the head coach, said that he received a call from his former bench boss on Monday morning.
"He gave me a call this morning and told me that he wanted me," Duclair said when we spoke with him on Monday night. "And when a coach calls you and tells you he wants you on his team, it's hard to say no, especially when it's Pat.
"Obviously, I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I know him very well, and his family very well. I played for him, I know what to expect. So, I think it was a great fit in that perspective."
Well this aged well. Duclair probably regrets signing with Isles and Roy regrets that phone call
4 effin year contract. So stupidDuclair, who played his junior hockey for the Quebec Remparts, where Roy was the head coach, said that he received a call from his former bench boss on Monday morning.
"He gave me a call this morning and told me that he wanted me," Duclair said when we spoke with him on Monday night. "And when a coach calls you and tells you he wants you on his team, it's hard to say no, especially when it's Pat.
"Obviously, I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I know him very well, and his family very well. I played for him, I know what to expect. So, I think it was a great fit in that perspective."
Well this aged well. Duclair probably regrets signing with Isles and Roy regrets that phone call
Osakahaus
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and he's been on 1/3rd of the NHL's teams too
guy is just Mike Sillinger all over again
Osakahaus
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You know what the saddest part is? I know they have the "we weren't healthy" excuse ready. They are ITCHING to say "well we weren't healthy this season so we will wait for them next season", as if that changes the dynamic of the roster. If you look around the league, look at teams that work around injuries and look at the Islanders. I have never seen a lazier team when it comes to injuries. Zero motivation to improve both internally and externally. but sure, a healthy barzal and duclair will get this team back to the same "chase the wild card and pray everyone gets dysentery" on the way to another 1st round exit so UBS gets an extra few thousand in revenue
backwards franchise.
backwards franchise.
The Real JT
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the Lou way
Any seconds thoughts or regrets from anyone regarding holding onto Palmieri at the TDL? He might have returned a late first or at worst a second and a B prospect. Even if you don’t want a rebuild, those assets could have been flipped for a younger NHL ready player.
Palmieri has probably helped us enough after the TDL to keep us out of the lower echelon of lottery teams while at the same team obligating the team to re-sign him in the offseason.
Spoiler alert: That’s a bad idea.
Palmieri has probably helped us enough after the TDL to keep us out of the lower echelon of lottery teams while at the same team obligating the team to re-sign him in the offseason.
Spoiler alert: That’s a bad idea.
seafoam
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This guy is god awful, he should be Bridgeport's Captain or something, but should never see UBS ice in the regular season again.
Just a colossal waste of 6M and what's worse than the cap hit is their term, which was simply never justified to hand out.
This guy was found on waivers and is outscoring Engvall in 20 less games and Duclair in 10 less games, as a DEFENSEMAN
I simply do not get why this organization is allergic at finding value contracts for 1 year. They could have signed Tanner Pearson who is outscoring Engvall and Duclair COMBINED to a one year league minimum deal, and that is just one example.
Just a colossal waste of 6M and what's worse than the cap hit is their term, which was simply never justified to hand out.
This guy was found on waivers and is outscoring Engvall in 20 less games and Duclair in 10 less games, as a DEFENSEMAN
I simply do not get why this organization is allergic at finding value contracts for 1 year. They could have signed Tanner Pearson who is outscoring Engvall and Duclair COMBINED to a one year league minimum deal, and that is just one example.
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Osakahaus
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They should've traded him. I legitimately believe that ANY proactive general manager would've done better than that idiot Lou. You literally win nothing by keeping Palmieri
Osakahaus
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Thinking smart is hard for the Islanders because they are so boneheaded with their moves. I really do not understand WHY they are so much better at the waiver wire than actually signing players. It absolutely baffles me that Boqvist and TDA are not only better with the puck but have scored MORE than our supposedly "elite" defenders in Dobson, Mayfield, Pulock and Pelech. I would rather just see them play Perunovich and Reilly at this point. It really cannot be exaggerated but the islanders HAVE to offload one defenseman this offseason. It MUST be done.
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I know you said you don't want to keep having the discussion, and that's fine. But I have to point out that the GM may not have been convinced they were an elite group. Maybe the real problem is that the GM doesn't think you need an elite group - that he still believes a tight-knit group of gritty, solid, defensively sound players that adhere to a system can overcome elite teams. And any chance of that happening went out the window as the league has moved to a more open, offensive style, and the GM failed to keep up with the times.
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YearlyLottery
The Pooch Report
If you think it's Lou I think you should say that. That being said, you also don't have any actual evidence to prove this aside from a blogger. It is just as reasonable to think the PR team did it as well.
impaaaaaact
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I hear what you're saying and I think we are too. I hate the idea of moving Barzal because I think his skill set is borderline irreplaceable in the NHL. Dobson feels like a risky player to move, but doesn't feel irreplaceable which is why he would be my preference if we're going to shake things up that hard - not to mention he's also in line for a cap adjusted salary increase which will make him less of a deal than Barzal going forward.
BTW - here's another way to think about Barzal's 57.75 points per season. If he maintains that rate same rate, he'll be #4 on the Islanders all time points by the middle of year 6 of his current 8 year contract. That would be Trottier, Bossy, Potvin, Barzal. It would make him inarguably the most important non-dynasty Islander, especially with the ECF runs. Depressing as that may be, that's just not the player I'm going to focus my negative energy on.
Mr Misunderstood
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Duclair, who played his junior hockey for the Quebec Remparts, where Roy was the head coach, said that he received a call from his former bench boss on Monday morning.
"He gave me a call this morning and told me that he wanted me," Duclair said when we spoke with him on Monday night. "And when a coach calls you and tells you he wants you on his team, it's hard to say no, especially when it's Pat.
"Obviously, I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I know him very well, and his family very well. I played for him, I know what to expect. So, I think it was a great fit in that perspective."
Well this aged well. Duclair probably regrets signing with Isles and Roy regrets that phone call
After reading this, I am actually a lot less concerned about the postgame comment.
Duclair knows Roy likes him and his game because of this phone call and when you already have that kind of relationship established, harsh criticism about one game is simply that. "I love you kid, but your game has sucked. You and I know you can be a lot better, turn this shit around."
If the rapport was not already there, those comments would be highly concerning.
YearlyLottery
The Pooch Report
Some players need to be coddled and some need strong wake up calls like that. It seemed Nelson was one of the players who to an extent needed to be coddled judging from that Trotz phone call. Duclair may be a player who needs to be chewed out.
Mr Misunderstood
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Fasching can GTFOH
Fancy Pierre is an enigma, like a young Nelson was but he's 28 years old. He has lost the benefit of the doubt.
Boqvist outscoring Engvall in 20 less games made me LOL
On the Duclair front, I do remember those first 5 games before the injury and they looked COMPLETELY different than anything shown in the last 39. I think we can absolutely hammer Lou for giving out a 4 year deal to a guy who is constantly hurt, but I always thought the AAV was fair based on his expectations.
Remember, out of his ELEVEN f***ING POINTS he tallied 3 of them in the first 5 games.
In the 39 games since? 5G 3A 11P -15
Mr Misunderstood
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And the best coaches in the business know which players need which approach. Jury is still out on Roy, considering there is maybe a handful of players that have taken a step forward this season (Holmstrom? George? Boqvist? TDA?)
