Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

[duster19]

Fun developments from exit interviews:

- Clutterbuck has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Martin also has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Mayfield fractured his ankle on game 1 and it didn't heal right
- Wahlstrom on his future with the team: "we'll see"
- Fasching wants a more definitive role with the team
- Dobson was playing hurt but felt "close to 100 percent" in the playoffs and whatever was causing an issue won't impact his summer (????)

Lou is definitely going to sign clutter and Martin.

 

[leeroggy]

@periferal I saw you make a post on here regarding that some of us think the Isles values are too high. My overall point on a player like Pulock I disagree on. My reasoning for this is if you go back to before we dealt Ladd and Bailey 99% of posters felt a 1st was going to be needed to get rid of them (especially Ladd).

@Chapin Landvogt brought up Pulock being a RHD as a premium value. I would love to hear your thoughts on how you would handle this offseason.

Did you miss my post on this?

Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2023-24: Hotel California

I posted this on the main trade board isles rebuild thread, but what about a good old fashioned hockey trade: To NYI Nik Ehlers To WPG Native Son Ryan Pulock Ehlers' historical playoff stats scare me but a Barzal-Horvat-Ehlers line excites my loins. I was proposing that 3 years ago AND I...

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[JJ18Sniper]

Fun developments from exit interviews:

- Clutterbuck has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Martin also has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Mayfield fractured his ankle on game 1 and it didn't heal right
- Wahlstrom on his future with the team: "we'll see"
- Fasching wants a more definitive role with the team
- Dobson was playing hurt but felt "close to 100 percent" in the playoffs and whatever was causing an issue won't impact his summer (????)

I love Clutter and Martin for what they've done for the team, but if we bring them both back, it's concerning. I don't see Martin as an everyday player anymore. Clutterbuck at league minimum? OK.

Mayfield gets a pass from me on the year. If Pulock and others didn't get injured, he should have been shut down earlier to heal. Hopefully he returns to form next year.

Wahlstrom may not get qualified.

I understand Fasching's desire, but he has to be careful. Lou is not someone who likes comments like that in the media as it points to questioning coaching decisions.

Dobsons health is concerning given how ineffective he was in the series. It's the 2nd year in a row where he had a great start to the year and tailed off towards the 2nd half. I would be very careful extending him this summer as his camp is going to be pushing for top $ give the point totals.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Fun developments from exit interviews:

- Clutterbuck has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Martin also has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Mayfield fractured his ankle on game 1 and it didn't heal right
- Wahlstrom on his future with the team: "we'll see"
- Fasching wants a more definitive role with the team
- Dobson was playing hurt but felt "close to 100 percent" in the playoffs and whatever was causing an issue won't impact his summer (????)

One big thing you missed was that Wahlstrom had a knee brace on up until just a few weeks ago. Brings new perspective on his play this year possibly.

 

[Osakahaus]

Fun developments from exit interviews:

- Clutterbuck has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Martin also has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Mayfield fractured his ankle on game 1 and it didn't heal right
- Wahlstrom on his future with the team: "we'll see"
- Fasching wants a more definitive role with the team
- Dobson was playing hurt but felt "close to 100 percent" in the playoffs and whatever was causing an issue won't impact his summer (????)

Clutterbuck and Martin should both retire or go to a team that needs them. Sorry. I think Martin has no gas and probably does retire ultimately. Clutterbuck would work more in NJ/BUF/DET as a veteran

Wahlstrom is a goner. That dude is gonna get nothing and ultimately dealt for a pick or two.

Dobson looked awful injury BS aside. I really want him to improve his physical game.

 

[Skip To My Lou]

Fun developments from exit interviews:

- Clutterbuck has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Martin also has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Mayfield fractured his ankle on game 1 and it didn't heal right
- Wahlstrom on his future with the team: "we'll see"
- Fasching wants a more definitive role with the team
- Dobson was playing hurt but felt "close to 100 percent" in the playoffs and whatever was causing an issue won't impact his summer (????)

Don't mind Clutter returning on a 1 year minimum. Would selfishly like to see Martin reach 1000 games, but let him do that on a rebuilding team.

I may be in the minority, but I like Fasching. Think he sees the game well, and serves a good role on the bottom 6.

 

[seafoam]

Fun developments from exit interviews:

- Clutterbuck has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Martin also has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Mayfield fractured his ankle on game 1 and it didn't heal right
- Wahlstrom on his future with the team: "we'll see"
- Fasching wants a more definitive role with the team
- Dobson was playing hurt but felt "close to 100 percent" in the playoffs and whatever was causing an issue won't impact his summer (????)

I think you and I have different definitions of “fun”

 

[MJF]

Fun developments from exit interviews:

- Clutterbuck has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Martin also has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Mayfield fractured his ankle on game 1 and it didn't heal right
- Wahlstrom on his future with the team: "we'll see"
- Fasching wants a more definitive role with the team
- Dobson was playing hurt but felt "close to 100 percent" in the playoffs and whatever was causing an issue won't impact his summer (????)

It’s becoming clear from the exit interviews that while the Isles players have a belief in themselves and high character, they live in an alternate reality that falling just short in their losses means they can compete with anybody. They can compete, but they lose anyway. It’s been that way for the last 2 years.

If only, if only….

 

[ekill08x]

Don't mind Clutter returning on a 1 year minimum. Would selfishly like to see Martin reach 1000 games, but let him do that on a rebuilding team.

I may be in the minority, but I like Fasching. Think he sees the game well, and serves a good role on the bottom 6.

I disagree on all counts except for martin on another team. we have to move on. fasching literally does nothing. doesn't hit, isn't fast, not great defensively and doesn't offer offense. we need to do better than him as well.

 

[NYI365]

I'd move on from Clutter, Martin, Wahlstrom, Fasching, Pageau all this off season.

Pulock for a Top 6 F

I think the above are all realistic in terms of actually happening. I'd move on from Lee/Pelech too but don't see that this off season.

I'm gonna guess they hold onto Nelson and if we're out by next TDL they move him and maybe Palmieri

 

[Throttle]

Martin made 50% of his career earnings when Snow balked at paying him and Lou did pay him from Toronto. Martin has only made $20M in his long career. Clutter has made $37M.

I think both guys are just looking to continue to play (their job) and get some extra cash in a summer where there is going to be cap space and a number of teams that need to use it: SJ, UT, SEA, ANA, etc.

Reaves got a 3yr/$4M just last summer from Toronto, so there’s a market for a limited deployed player like them with physical presence (waning of course).

 

[Glory Days]

I hope Lou takes Roy’s input on the players he needs to play his system. The team that finished the season certainly doesn’t have enough players to do so.

 

[doublechili]

You'd think that axe would be dust by now with how long Botta's been grinding it.

Botta is a one trick pony who uses his platform to lash out after a (now pretty old) personal affront.

 

[seabass45]

I'd move on from Clutter, Martin, Wahlstrom, Fasching, Pageau all this off season.

Pulock for a Top 6 F

I think the above are all realistic in terms of actually happening. I'd move on from Lee/Pelech too but don't see that this off season

I don't think the bolded is realistic and people here really need to start realizing that a NTC actually means something, particularly when it comes from a GM known for doing right by his players. I remember people hoping that Pulock would be traded before his extension went into effect, and here we are over two years later and he's still not traded.

 

[PK Cronin]

I hope Lou takes Roy’s input on the players he needs to play his system. The team that finished the season certainly doesn’t have enough players to do so.

 

[Glory Days]

That’s encouraging. Time to move away from a team built to play Trotz hockey to a team built to play the way Roy wants to play.

 

[Bexlyspeed]

They're going to have to Push Martin and Clutterbuck out the door, especially Martin. upgrades are needed thorough the roster, enough with these "Loyalty" contracts. I love all these guys but it's time to move forward.

 

[seabass45]

https://x.com/agrossnewsday/status/1786441176154804628?s=46

EDIT: I guess embed isn't working but Lou is sticking around.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Of course Martin doesn't want to leave, he and his family is fully entrenched on LI.

And of course he doesn't want to stop playing either, neither would I.

Love the dude and want him to be affiliated with the team for a long damn time, but his time on the ice in an Islander uniform is up.

 

[MikeyMike01]

Fun developments from exit interviews:

- Clutterbuck has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Martin also has no intention to retire, wants to stay
- Mayfield fractured his ankle on game 1 and it didn't heal right
- Wahlstrom on his future with the team: "we'll see"
- Fasching wants a more definitive role with the team
- Dobson was playing hurt but felt "close to 100 percent" in the playoffs and whatever was causing an issue won't impact his summer (????)

Were you expecting Martin/Clutterbuck to say “I’m old, washed up garbage and I don’t belong on the ice, sorry everyone”?

 

[Throttle]

Of course Martin doesn't want to leave, he and his family is fully entrenched on LI.

And of course he doesn't want to stop playing either, neither would I.

Love the dude and want him to be affiliated with the team for a long damn time, but his time on the ice in an Islander uniform is up.

he’s also proven that he make a financially sound decision himself, even if it involves moving.

I can see him or Clutter heading over to NJ.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

he’s also proven that he make a financially sound decision himself, even if it involves moving.

I can see him or Clutter heading over to NJ.

Yeah, but that was before kids.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Another year of our Supreme Leader making completely unchecked catastrophic decisions. Malkin either has his head up his ass or doesn’t give a f*** about winning a cup.

 

[DerekKingSnipes]

Of course Martin doesn't want to leave, he and his family is fully entrenched on LI.

And of course he doesn't want to stop playing either, neither would I.

Love the dude and want him to be affiliated with the team for a long damn time, but his time on the ice in an Islander uniform is up.

He needs like 40 something games for a 1000 which for a guy like him and his role is pretty amazing so no surprise he wants to take shot at getting it.

 

[Throttle]

Another year of our Supreme Leader making completely unchecked catastrophic decisions. Malkin either has his head up his ass or doesn’t give a f*** about winning a cup.

Or sees the GM made the playoffs in 5/6 years since he was hired. Now, maybe fans don’t like the results, but for an owner that’s looking good.