Roster Building XXVI: Picking Our Teeth Off the Ice

[Nikishin al Gaib]

Agree. But, I have a feeling Stankoven gets moved in the offseason

I don't know. He just fits our system so well that I think we'd move someone else like Svech before him. The only way I could see us move him is for a proven commodity that we can bring in who we know without a shadow of a doubt would fit our profile and contribute highly from the start.

But... I don't know. He and Jarvis are 2 very high level players who are perfect fits for us that could anchor our forward lines for the next decade. I just don't get the impression we'd want to move him at all.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Blake, Jarvis, Stankoven and Nadeau is a lot by traditional roster building standards. Lack of size/toughness has been a persistent criticism in postmortems before. If they don't win it all, it's bound to be one again.

 

[robbieberns]

Main reason i’m so high on Bennett is because he’s a big bodied physical guy with a mean streak. Really would bring us an element we desperately need.

 

[htdoc]

We have proven over the last seven years that you can certainly have regular season success playing the effort game with a smaller roster. But playoffs are still a whole different animal… and you can’t find a single cup winner in a very long time that had a large chunk of its roster be undersized. Tampa is likely the closest thing and they still had a lot of the remaining roster folks that fit the traditional size and toughness quotient to offset your Kucherov and Points of the world…

There is no doubt that all of them are talented and can play our system. But having that many small stature wingers (Jarvis, Blake, Stankoven, Nadeau) on a roster that also has Aho is going to be perceived as having a balance that is too tilted towards reduced stature and lack of physicality.

We need bigger bodies than those guys if we want to win the cup… we need the elite shot of Nadeau at some point. Something will have to give somewhere… going to be fascinating to see what they do massaging the roster in the next few years…

 

[TheBigLetowski]

Would love Bennett, just not keen on giving him a 7x7-8 deal like someone will. We 100% need some piss and vinegar on this team. A guy like Duhaime or similar is what we need in the bottom 6.

 

[SvechneJerk]

Just thinking about our situation this Summer (needs, over-abundance of Cap space, what we've done in the past, etc) & if we re-acquired our 2026 3rd from Utah, I could totally see the FO going after Knies like we did with KK - trying the 1 yr poison pill approach. $11,452,000 for 1 year. We would still have the Dallas 1st, the Florida 2nd, & the Dallas 3rd.

Just feels like something they would try.

 

[Stickpucker]

Would love Bennett, just not keen on giving him a 7x7-8 deal like someone will. We 100% need some piss and vinegar on this team. A guy like Duhaime or similar is what we need in the bottom 6.

You'd think the Carolinas would have plenty of vinegar with our food traditions.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Just thinking about our situation this Summer (needs, over-abundance of Cap space, what we've done in the past, etc) & if we re-acquired our 2026 3rd from Utah, I could totally see the FO going after Knies like we did with KK - trying the 1 yr poison pill approach. $11,452,000 for 1 year. We would still have the Dallas 1st, the Florida 2nd, & the Dallas 3rd.

Just feels like something they would try.

I think that would put his QO at that amount so in effect we would only have 1 year of control unless we wanted to extend him for that much

 

[WreckingCrew]

Just thinking about our situation this Summer (needs, over-abundance of Cap space, what we've done in the past, etc) & if we re-acquired our 2026 3rd from Utah, I could totally see the FO going after Knies like we did with KK - trying the 1 yr poison pill approach. $11,452,000 for 1 year. We would still have the Dallas 1st, the Florida 2nd, & the Dallas 3rd.

Just feels like something they would try.

Hasn't Knies said he's not really interested in offer sheets? That's also a massive risk for us as stated with his QO after

 

[spockBokk]

Just thinking about our situation this Summer (needs, over-abundance of Cap space, what we've done in the past, etc) & if we re-acquired our 2026 3rd from Utah, I could totally see the FO going after Knies like we did with KK - trying the 1 yr poison pill approach. $11,452,000 for 1 year. We would still have the Dallas 1st, the Florida 2nd, & the Dallas 3rd.

Just feels like something they would try.

They’d need to re-acquire their 2026 2nd from COL too to tender an OS that high…

Edit - well I’m wrong there,looks like they have their 2026 2nd, I stand corrected. I think it’d be easier just to spend the extra 1sts they already have for roster improvements vs an OS. With the rising cap, I don’t think poison pill OS’s will be as effective as they were in in the cases of Kotkaniemi/Broberg/Holloway

 

[Unsustainable]

I think we look to Buffalo or Islanders in the off season for a center if we can't get one in FA.

Bennett and Marner as FA options, or Ehlers.

Maybe Sorokin, Demko, Swayman ( if Boston blows it up)

 

[WreckingCrew]

I think we look to Buffalo or Islanders in the off season for a center if we can't get one in FA.

Bennett and Marner as FA options, or Ehlers.

Maybe Sorokin, Demko, Swayman ( if Boston blows it up)

Say no to Demko, I'm tired of good but oft-injured goalies

 

[cptjeff]

Not so bold prediction: With the cap jumping by eleventy million dollars this offseason, zero GMs will even attempt an offer sheet tender. Seriously, it's worked a couple times recently because of the flat cap. It will not work again this year.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Not so bold prediction: With the cap jumping by eleventy million dollars this offseason, zero GMs will even attempt an offer sheet tender. Seriously, it's worked a couple times recently because of the flat cap. It will not work again this year.

Agree with possible exception if there is a market targeted that has a spending limit.

btw: I wonder what market inefficiency Tulsky and the Borg will target in this new non-Cap constrained era

 

[chaz4hockey]

Anyone in favor of adding Olivier from Columbus this off-season? 18 Goals and a very, very tough guy that our roster could use. He made $1.1M this year and is 29 years old

Pair him and Nikishin and we won't have to worry about the Wilsons of the world looking to intimate the Aho's

 

[User13452]

Anyone in favor of adding Olivier from Columbus this off-season? 18 Goals and a very, very tough guy that our roster could use. He made $1.1M this year and is 29 years old

Pair him and Nikishin and we won't have to worry about the Wilsons of the world looking to intimate the Aho's

He just signed an extension there they really like him good locker room guy they won’t be moving him

 

[spockBokk]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they revisited Demko this summer. They were rumored to have asked about him when they were deciding between Pettersson/Miller and Rantanen. Sure, there’s the injury risk, but if by some miracle his knee finally heels, he’s exactly the type of goalie they’ve been missing.

 

[chaz4hockey]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they revisited Demko this summer. They were rumored to have asked about him when they were deciding between Pettersson/Miller and Rantanen. Sure, there’s the injury risk, but if by some miracle his knee finally heels, he’s exactly the type of goalie they’ve been missing.

I thought the word out of Vancouver is that he has a chronic issue and just needs to learn how to play with it.

If so, no thanks as chronic issues don’t ever go away.

 

[Stanky and Janky]

Odds are they are going with a goalie that has injury issues, either Andersen, Gibson, or Demko since they've had or been linked to these players. Perhaps someone else will shake loose but I'd guess one of them for now.

 

[poobags]

Anyone in favor of adding Olivier from Columbus this off-season? 18 Goals and a very, very tough guy that our roster could use. He made $1.1M this year and is 29 years old

Pair him and Nikishin and we won't have to worry about the Wilsons of the world looking to intimate the Aho's

Intimate sounds a bit amorous to be happening on the ice. Especially to the Ahos.

 

[User13452]

Odds are they are going with a goalie that has injury issues, either Andersen, Gibson, or Demko since they've had or been linked to these players. Perhaps someone else will shake loose but I'd guess one of them for now.

Goalie market is almost non existent there’s not much available outside of those 3.

 

[SvechneJerk]

Not that it'll happen, but, the growing consensus over on HF Perds is to trade Saros this Summer before his NMC kicks in.

 

[Stanky and Janky]

Not that it'll happen, but, the growing consensus over on HF Perds is to trade Saros this Summer before his NMC kicks in.

Risky move. Could be a Cup winning move or a move where you hitch your wagon to the tiny guy that's about to fall off the cliff. He's been bad like most things associated with Nashville this year. Gotta be sure that's just a Nashville this year thing and not a him thing.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

Risky move. Could be a Cup winning move or a move where you hitch your wagon to the tiny guy that's about to fall off the cliff. He's been bad like most things associated with Nashville this year. Gotta be sure that's just a Nashville this year thing and not a him thing.

With our defens I would trust Saros to bounce back far more than I would trust Freddie, Demko or Gibson to stay healthy.

 

[Lempo]

Not that it'll happen, but, the growing consensus over on HF Perds is to trade Saros this Summer before his NMC kicks in.

He plays with number 74.