No more TDA pls.
Thx in advance.
Thx in advance.
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And here's his chart from last year:
He's not an $8m defender, and I don't think we would (or should) pay him anywhere close. But I think it's a bit much to write him off as TDA level scrub in his own end. Ultimately I don't think this trade happens due to his contract demands, but given the premium position I wouldn't totally rule it out as an option.
I wouldn't trade Necas for him. As I noted earlier, Canucks don't have the tradable roster assets to trade with the Canes
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Seriously, go off kid. Keep raising that value on the large ice, might get a bidding war out of this after all
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Context matters though, that's him playing 23 minutes a night on the top pair, half of that time spent being the guy to let Hughes be Hughes. Pull up Skjei's charts around the time he was acquired and they're pretty brutal. But you could see how his traits would be a good fit.
Like I said, not an $8m player but I disagree with saying he's basically TDA. Here's Tony the past the 3 years playing more sheltered minutes:
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I'm doubtful that Hronek gets 8M per year. I get why the agents are pushing it because he had that huge start, but he did regress back to the mean along with the rest of the team. I think that a number around 7, or a number slightly under that, is realistic for him.
i think we'd be fine with skjei-tda for next year, honestly. people will say he struggled in the playoffs, but what that really means is he struggled against the president's trophy winners. he was fine against the isles, and would be fine for the regular season not having to face the best team in the league every night.
i think he re-signs at a pretty reasonable cap hit, which could help. but you keep an eye on potential upgrades at the deadline.
i think he re-signs at a pretty reasonable cap hit, which could help. but you keep an eye on potential upgrades at the deadline.
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Agreed, that's why I think this trade doesn't happen and he eventually re-ups there. They'll negotiate the AAV down and Vancouver will reach a point where they're comfortable with the number before the Canes would. They know he plays well with Hughes, so for them a slight overpay is probably preferable to the replacement cost.
Looking through the UFA list, Kapanen really stands out. His contract should be cheap and short after a rough year. There's a tie to the organization. Prior interest in the player has been reported; we mock JR a little bit for getting his man, but this group has done some of that too (Kase and Puljujarvi). Offsets some of the speed lost with Necas, if he moves.
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I don’t think that is the endorsement we’re looking for. Kase and puljujarvi were bad acquisitions
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In AG's podcast in the DW thread, Cory discusses how it is a mutual parting of ways. Doesn't sound like there are even bad feelings so one would think they've planned for this situation for a while?
I didn't say he would improve the team.
I do think there's got to be some risk for an acquisition to be given the label of bad. Kase was a cheap, 1 year deal that didn't work out because of injury. Puljujarvi was a gamble with unused cap space for a prospect that ultimately didn't get a contract offer from the acquiring team. Neither hurt the organization.
I do think there's got to be some risk for an acquisition to be given the label of bad. Kase was a cheap, 1 year deal that didn't work out because of injury. Puljujarvi was a gamble with unused cap space for a prospect that ultimately didn't get a contract offer from the acquiring team. Neither hurt the organization.
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Seeing the topic of Necas for Andersson revisited, I’m assuming we’d all agree that’s a much better fit and a lot closer in value than bringing in Hronek on a bigger contract.
lol - that's a pretty perfect response, actually.
for the record, i hope we'd find a better option. but given costs and who's available i won't commit seppuku if we end up with tda as part of the d.
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If Borg loses Nečas, but brings Hronek I may spare their lives.
While we are at it, I haven’t hated on Pacioretty acquisition in a while HAVEN’T I.
While we are at it, I haven’t hated on Pacioretty acquisition in a while HAVEN’T I.
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FWIW Necas is probably the 8th best player from his draft class, so that's the kind of return he deserves in a trade
I don’t think they sign TDA as a guaranteed #6. At best he’s competing with Morrow for that spot, but I think they’d ideally like to upgrade on Morrow/TDA and let Morrow spend a year in Chicago.
TDA wants to play every night, and I think he will get that chance somewhere else.
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I don't think I could manage Hronek. I'd be thinking wronic screws the whole time, and I can't think them without immediately channeling a song by certain Canadian songstress.
Canes
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If our front office is even half as willing as some around here to do a trade based around Hronek as a center piece, the answer is a resounding yes, unfortunately
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He's not a bad 3rd pair guy and is basically a great 7th D.
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