Roster Building (& Training Camp) XXIII: Re-signings, Re-considerations, Recriminations

[User13452]

I put it in the Necas thread, but a good deal about the roster building from Tulsky yet again.

Also mentions Gibson’s name but that’s just speculation on Lebrun’s part

 

[hblueridgegal]

It's their true calling...

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

He's the same age as Warren Foegele and so far has been the exact player we hoped Foegele would eventually turn into.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

He's the same age as Warren Foegele and so far has been the exact player we hoped Foegele would eventually turn into.

I think Foegele kind did turn into that player as well. He had 20G, 41P last year. This year he has 6G, 10P, +7 in 19 games, all at Even Strength while playing on the 3rd line.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I think Foegele kind did turn into that player as well. He had 20G, 41P last year. This year he has 6G, 10P, +7 in 19 games, all at Even Strength while playing on the 3rd line.

Yeah, he did. Foegele also secured a pretty big UFA bag this offseason with the Kings.

 

[AD Skinner]

Pretty sure the staals look down on saad omy

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I think Foegele kind did turn into that player as well. He had 20G, 41P last year. This year he has 6G, 10P, +7 in 19 games, all at Even Strength while playing on the 3rd line.

McLovin is still the player we let go I miss the most. Not just for his play on the ice which was solid but I no longer get to make unbelievably accurate McLovin jokes about him every game.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Also mentions Gibson’s name but that’s just speculation on Lebrun’s part

It obviously depends on how severe Andersen's injury is (there's a bunch of mixed signals and Brindy is not the most trustworthy when it come to timeline), but Gibson is the most Canes-adjacent pickup currently available for trade.

 

[Borsig]

Guys I hope I am wrong on Nachos. I do.

But between our hesitance to pay up, and his seemingly wanting a trade....

That being said if they're gonna lock him up the time to do it is net year on day one. I just don't like the 2 year deal carrying to him to UFA

 

[User13452]

It obviously depends on how severe Andersen's injury is (there's a bunch of mixed signals and Brindy is not the most trustworthy when it come to timeline), but Gibson is the most Canes-adjacent pickup currently available for trade.

You’d have to get him at 25 or 50 retained I don’t think they’d wanna have him on the books for his current price for another 2 seasons after this one but his value has never really been lower definitely seems like a canes type pickup if they can get him for cheap. He needs a change of scenery I think he could still be a good goalie on a team like Carolina

 

[chaz4hockey]

Anyone else that would be a longer term (and younger/promising) asset to partner with Pyotr?

 

[MinJaBen]

It obviously depends on how severe Andersen's injury is (there's a bunch of mixed signals and Brindy is not the most trustworthy when it come to timeline), but Gibson is the most Canes-adjacent pickup currently available for trade.

I love the symmetry of the Canes trading for Gibson to replace Freddy.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

Agreed on McLovin. He was also a worker bee player, busting his ass to make the play. Guys like that can play in the league for 10, 15 years. I think Foegele would look real good next to Necas right now. At 3 years, $10.5M, that's a real reasonable deal for what he's bringing to the ice.

Robinson if anything has maybe a touch less skill than Foegs, but he picks his spots well and is responsible defensively. Necas is on such a heater it makes me wonder if we could pair him with Canes plugs of yore like Andrej Nestrasil or Patrick Dwyer and get similar success.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

You’d have to get him at 25 or 50 retained I don’t think they’d wanna have him on the books for his current price for another 2 seasons after this one but his value has never really been lower definitely seems like a canes type pickup if they can get him for cheap. He needs a change of scenery I think he could still be a good goalie on a team like Carolina

Any Gibson trade to a contender likely involves salary retention. I was sort of pricing that into my comment above.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I love the symmetry of the Canes trading for Gibson to replace Freddy.

There is that one caveat where Gibson is 4 years younger than Freddy, so he might be more reliable health-wise for that reason alone. TBF, though, the blood-clotting issue last year was a genetic medical issue more than an age thing.

 

[The Jerk Store]

A Gibson-Koochie tandem would be pretty solid for a few years IMHO.

 

[MinJaBen]

There is that one caveat where Gibson is 4 years younger than Freddy, so he might be more reliable health-wise for that reason alone. TBF, though, the blood-clotting issue last year was a genetic medical issue more than an age thing.

I was not thinking injury issues, but more like Anaheim pushing Freddy out in favor of Gibson, and then us doing the same thing.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I was not thinking injury issues, but more like Anaheim pushing Freddy out in favor of Gibson, and then us doing the same thing.

I forgot about that

 

[Lempo]

I love the symmetry of the Canes trading for Gibson to replace Freddy.

Tyger tyger burning bright.

 

[Borsig]

I was not thinking injury issues, but more like Anaheim pushing Freddy out in favor of Gibson, and then us doing the same thing.

Its happened on like 2 and probably soon to be 3 teams now. We didn't coin the freddie flu thing you know.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Its happened on like 2 and probably soon to be 3 teams now. We didn't coin the freddie flu thing you know.

IIRC, in Anaheim, it was that the Ducks felt they had 3 NHL goalies in Andersen, Hiller and Gibson (who was the future) so he was the odd man out.

Toronto fans really turned on him re: Injuries at the end of his time there. He played 66, 66, 60 and was outstanding his first 3 seasons where only 2 goalies in the NHL played more games than he did. He even played 52 games his fourth season there when the injuries started in the 2nd half of the season, even with that, in those 4 seasons, only 4 goalies in the NHL played more games than Andersen in total, so he was very healthy throughout those first 4 seasons.

Things went down hill from there though.

 

[Stickpucker]

It seems there may be some confusion or playfulness in the phrasing of your question. The term "Saad-imized" doesn't have a clear meaning in the context of hockey or the Staal family. If you’re referring to the possibility of the Carolina Hurricanes (often called the Canes) leveraging the Staal family's presence on the roster (Marc, Eric, and Jordan Staal) to foster team chemistry or performance, that’s a common strategy in sports; teams often benefit from the dynamics of family connections.

As for "Saad farmers," it appears to be a humorous or fictitious expression, possibly referencing Brandon Saad, a professional hockey player, rather than a legitimate rumor. The integration of family dynamics can definitely play a role in team culture and success, but it’s best to rely on more specific developments or statements from the team for accurate information.

If you need details about player personnel or team strategies, please provide more context, and I'd be happy to help!

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AI was pretty douchey there.

I thought you were quoting someone else on this board

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

A Shesterkin/Kochetkov tandem works for me.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I was not thinking injury issues, but more like Anaheim pushing Freddy out in favor of Gibson, and then us doing the same thing.

Except we’ll be pushing him out on a stretcher.

 

[Borsig]

A Shesterkin/Kochetkov tandem works for me.

A ford raptor works for me but I can't afford it.