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If multiple teams have interest then someone is going to trade for him if the Rangers don’t extend him.

Offer sheet is very unlikely because someone will want to reserve his rights instead of leaving it up to chance.
 
If multiple teams have interest then someone is going to trade for him if the Rangers don’t extend him.

Offer sheet is very unlikely because someone will want to reserve his rights instead of leaving it up to chance.
I think he goes in a hockey trade for a forward and Laf + 12 goes for a defenseman.
 
  • K'Andre + Othmann + 3rd for Necas
  • Kreider to TOR for Bobby McMann + 3rd
  • Soucy for a 4th
Signings
  • Gavrikov - 6 years, 6.25m AAV
  • Schmidt - 2 years, 1.5m AAV
  • vet 7th - 800k (2 way)
  • Cuylle - 2 years, 3.25m
  • Edstrom - 1 year, 850k

Panarin Miller Necas
Lafreniere Zibanejad Perreault/Berard
Cuylle Trocheck McMann
Edstrom Carrick Parssinen/Rempe/Brodzinski

Gavrikov Fox
Schmidt Schneider
Vaakanainen Borgen
(800k)

Math works out to just around the cap.
 


Kevin Lankinen is in the website video. But Demko, still the Canucks’ No. 1 guy in the crease, is not.
It does make you wonder if Demko is quietly being shopped around. One league source said that trading Demko made sense to them since he is a solid trade chip, even if he is coming off multiple seasons in a row with injuries, and could help bring back the kind of No. 2 centre the Canucks openly covet.

The question is: Can they do this re-set this summer? They don’t have a ton of resources to work with, but they do still have a handful of appealing ones.
“They have ammo,” one league source said. “Demko, Hoglander, Willander, Lekkerimäki and the 14th overall pick. But is there a plan, or are they just shuffling deck chairs around?”



EF:

On Muse and PIT: "When I heard it was Dan Muse, I was shocked. Not because he wasn't on the radar....but I just didn't take it seriously enough as a contender. And what I learned is I have to put some respect on his name......I just didn't see it coming, I'll be honest.......I just think what happened with Muse is he wasn't a guy who had enough people knowing him to promote his case......one thing I heard about him in NY was he was consistently the first guy to arrive every day and the last guy to leave......you don't hire Dan Muse at this time unless you are simply saying "We're gonna have a lot of young players here. We're gonna be introducing a lot of youthful faces. And we need someone who knows how to connect with them.......his [Muse's] strength is young players and development."

On COL: "We'll see about Necas. There's a lot of stuff flying out there right now. There's so much stuff flying out there.....I'm simply trying to figure out what's real out there......Necas, he has another year before he's a UFA. He told Carolina that he would sign the 2 yr deal to get to UFA and he wasn't doing anything else. I'm still waiting to determine if that's in any way different now."

On DAL: "There's been a lot of noise around Dallas the last couple days. One of the things I'd heard over the last couple days is they'd like to keep Mikael Granlund......If you really want to keep him at the number that it probably is gonna take to keep him, then they're definitely going to have to make some hard choices. Jim Nill has some big decisions to make there. Going to be an interesting summer."

On TOR: "I don't think Toronto is gonna do a buyout. I don't think they're gonna go that way. One of the things about Tavares, you look at it, you could go the Brock Nelson way, which is 3 years at a bigger AAV. Or you could go the Chris Tanev/Gourde way. I could see Toronto pitching that. It worked with Tanev. Obviously it would take him right to retirement.....I don't think it would be as low as 2.3 or whatever it was for Gourde, but I can see Toronto pitching that structure to Tavares."

On Byram: "It's a hot name. Kevyn Adams, he's doing his due diligence there. I think there's a lot of interest as you'd expect.....I've just heard there's a lot of noise around him at the Combine."

On Ehlers: "The one thing I've heard that Ehlers prefers is he wants to be in a situation where he can win. I think that's more important to him than the number. We'll see if that proves to be the case, but I've heard that about him......I've heard that Ehlers and a chance to win is pretty big on his list."
 
  • K'Andre + Othmann + 3rd for Necas
  • Kreider to TOR for Bobby McMann + 3rd
  • Soucy for a 4th
Signings
  • Gavrikov - 6 years, 6.25m AAV
  • Schmidt - 2 years, 1.5m AAV
  • vet 7th - 800k (2 way)
  • Cuylle - 2 years, 3.25m
  • Edstrom - 1 year, 850k

Panarin Miller Necas
Lafreniere Zibanejad Perreault/Berard
Cuylle Trocheck McMann
Edstrom Carrick Parssinen/Rempe/Brodzinski

Gavrikov Fox
Schmidt Schneider
Vaakanainen Borgen
(800k)

Math works out to just around the cap.
No thanks on dealing Othmann. Not a fan of another soft skilled players in Necas. Rangers need more physical tenacious forwards. Rather swing for Cowan in a Kreider deal even if it means attaching 12 to Kreider
 
I am not saying we should be so happy with the development of Laf and Miller but if the Rangers go ahead and trade these guys at 23 and 25 years of age respectively how can any Ranger fan have hope that this organization will be able to EVER properly develop and franchise type player? Even if they are a top 5ish pick.
At this point I think I am willing to be a bit more patient than most on here I guess.

I mean Kakko/Miller/Lafreniere/Chytil all gone within what 6 months?
 
I am not saying we should be so happy with the development of Laf and Miller but if the Rangers go ahead and trade these guys at 23 and 25 years of age respectively how can any Ranger fan have hope that this organization will be able to EVER properly develop and franchise type player? Even if they are a top 5ish pick.
At this point I think I am willing to be a bit more patient than most on here I guess.

I mean Kakko/Miller/Lafreniere/Chytil all gone within what 6 months?

chris drury masterclass
 
I am not saying we should be so happy with the development of Laf and Miller but if the Rangers go ahead and trade these guys at 23 and 25 years of age respectively how can any Ranger fan have hope that this organization will be able to EVER properly develop and franchise type player? Even if they are a top 5ish pick.
At this point I think I am willing to be a bit more patient than most on here I guess.

I mean Kakko/Miller/Lafreniere/Chytil all gone within what 6 months?
Chris Drury has no time for developing players, he needs this shit to work immediately. If there’s an offer to get players Drury thinks are better for Miller and Laffy they’ll both be gone
 
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Bern doesn't want to sell low. So he rather hope for a bounce back and get higher value for what Kreider is suppose to be brining to teams. He's not hoping for a bounce back so Kreider can stay a NYR, but rather some team coming to us and wanting to trade some up-coming youth for him. I get it, but at some point, getting out of a contract, or going in a direction of a change is much more important.

We're kind of in a cap mess with about $8.5 mil to work with and 6 RFA's---Cuylle, K'Andre, Rempe, Edstrom, Kaliyev and Jones. Now I don't really consider Kaliyev and Jones as players I'd worry about and Rempe and Edstrom should be cheap enough but it's still not enough cap space and when that's an issue that's when a team ends up having cap casualties like how we lost Hagelin one year and Buchnevich another. We just couldn't afford to keep them and we sold on them low. I don't necessarily think that we'll have to sell low on Kreider if we deal him but that may also be somewhat dependent on his health but he would be the easiest larger contract to move to get some cap relief. I get the arguments about others as well but Mika with 5 to go at $8.5 with an NMC and a stated reluctance to leave is a lot harder sell and I think he's a declining player too but still a lot harder to move. The other major one could be Panarin but the Rangers do need to protect Cuylle---he's exactly the kind of player we need a North South power forward who's very proactive physically and has at least top 6 skill.
 
Gotta keep Panarin though right NYR FO?

Dude is a f***ing hex on this organization.
RB has said it, but any Panarin move would be after his signing bonus is paid since his salary is extremely cheap for a team to take on if they can make the overall cap hit fit. He obviously has the ultimate control with the NMC, but his name is out there.

Not an easy move to make, even if it is the correct one. The other moves have to fall into place first.
 
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I am not saying we should be so happy with the development of Laf and Miller but if the Rangers go ahead and trade these guys at 23 and 25 years of age respectively how can any Ranger fan have hope that this organization will be able to EVER properly develop and franchise type player? Even if they are a top 5ish pick.
At this point I think I am willing to be a bit more patient than most on here I guess.

I mean Kakko/Miller/Lafreniere/Chytil all gone within what 6 months?

We'd have to acquire an undeveloped franchise type player first. The closest we've come is Fox (and Hank).
 
No thanks on dealing Othmann. Not a fan of another soft skilled players in Necas. Rangers need more physical tenacious forwards. Rather swing for Cowan in a Kreider deal even if it means attaching 12 to Kreider
Physical tenacious players only go so far if they lack skill.90% of the guys you want to trade for are borderline AHL lifers cause they are tUFf
 
Laf & Cuylle are staying, lets relax. Those two are the heavy wingers Drury is going to want around JT & Troch for the next 5 years easily.

Miller is certainly gone and I don't think anyone should be surprised over it. He's not only a headcase but has cost us many games because of his on-ice issues. Will he maybe put it all together one day? Maybe but he's a floater and will never be the real #2 this Rangers team needs to play behind Fox.
 
  • K'Andre + Othmann + 3rd for Necas
  • Kreider to TOR for Bobby McMann + 3rd
  • Soucy for a 4th
Signings
  • Gavrikov - 6 years, 6.25m AAV
  • Schmidt - 2 years, 1.5m AAV
  • vet 7th - 800k (2 way)
  • Cuylle - 2 years, 3.25m
  • Edstrom - 1 year, 850k

Panarin Miller Necas
Lafreniere Zibanejad Perreault/Berard
Cuylle Trocheck McMann
Edstrom Carrick Parssinen/Rempe/Brodzinski

Gavrikov Fox
Schmidt Schneider
Vaakanainen Borgen
(800k)

Math works out to just around the cap.

All of your signings get more than what you have estimated. Gavrikov gets 7.75-8.5, Schmidt gets 2.5 because of his playoffs and being a regular on a deep playoff team, Cuylle probably gets closer to 5, perhaps more, depends on term. I just don’t see it. Idea is okay.
 
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