Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX (WTF are we going to do this Off-Season edition)

[RangersFan1994]

None of this makes sense. Terrible job by Staple.

Staple is one of the worst.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Doesn’t begin to address the issues on the back end

It's in the next chunk of the article, and it's at least "better" than whatever nonsense he proposed for the forwards. Staple has been an absolute embarrassment these last couple of years. I was excited that he was replacing Carp, but now that Baugh is here, I think we can just let Staple go back to covering the Isles. He'll at least be less of a miserable prick then.

Hague-Fox
Miller-Borgen
Schmidt-Schneider

How we got here:

• Traded Soucy to the Utah Mammoth for a fifth-round pick.

• Traded RFA Dylan Garand to the Golden Knights for Nic Hague and signed Hague to a three-year deal worth $4.25 million per.

• Signed RFA K’Andre Miller to a three-year deal worth $5.5 million per.

• Signed UFA Nate Schmidt to a one-year deal worth $1 million.

Soucy didn’t look like a top-four solution in his 16 Rangers games, so I acted quickly to shed that salary. Garand is a promising goalie prospect, but he really has nowhere to go in this organization. The Knights, meanwhile, need a young goalie in their pipeline, so I jumped at the chance to trade for Hague, a 6-foot-6 lefty who has been a steady third-pair guy in Vegas and could be due for an increased role elsewhere.

Schmidt is a versatile sixth or seventh defenseman and could be a nice complement for Braden Schneider on the third pair. Plus, he’s a cheap veteran who’s got a good presence.

K’Andre Miller’s deal is a bargain, way below what he’s likely to get, but I’d rather keep him and see if he can continue being a solid No. 3 alongside Will Borgen or whether he can pair with Adam Fox to be an elite top pair. Trading him likely would have meant lesser value coming back and then signing an older left-handed defenseman to a big UFA deal. Not interested.

So, there’s no Mitch Marner here, nor is there a trade for Devon Toews or an elite left-handed defenseman. But shedding Kreider and Zibanejad would be a major coup and change for this group, so I’ll call that as ideal as I could make it.

 

[Homelander]

What updates are you after?

Peca and Muse are still around New York Rangers Front Office Staff | NY Rangers | New York Rangers

Rumors?

 

[noncents]

is there a world where we could add Lindholm and McDonagh?

McDonagh Fox
Lindholm Schneider
KAM Borgen

pretty decent d corp.

i would do this before adding any forwards. this is priority 1. your pairs are out of whack though.

Lindholm Fox
KAM Borgen
Mac Schneider

 

[RangerBoy]

Does Eichel sign the 8 year extension on July 1? No state income taxes in Nevada.



Maurice said the room sets the culture of the team. Everyone feels part of the team. It's not the coaching.

The Rangers players sunk the season because they were mad at management over Goodrow and Trouba. Those players need to be shipped off the team. People pay good money to attend these games and these guys could not put aside their grievances.

 

[n8]

I make a lot of wrong calls so take it for what it's worth. I don't think Mika or Kreids gets shipped out until around Xmas. Sullivan will be given a chance to turn those two around. They'll probably know in a month or two and then another month or two to work out a deal somewhere.

 

[Mandar]

Rumors?

Fleetwood Mac?

 

[mike14]

Rumors?

Fair enough.
There probably aren't too many rumours to be had connected to assistant coaches that are still employed. Although I'm sure someone would have kicked up if they had have applied for any if the vacant head coaching positions, so probably safe to assume it's situation normal with both of them

 

[haohmaru]

What would an ideal Rangers offseason look like? And a nightmare one?

With a few smart moves and a bit of good fortune, here's what the Rangers roster could look like in 2025-26. Or it could go this other way.

www.nytimes.com

Staple is the biggest idiot in the world. These are the moves he would make for his ideal offseason:

• Traded Kreider to the Columbus Blue Jackets for a pair of third-round picks.​

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• Traded Zibanejad (with 20 percent salary retention) and a second-round pick to Chicago for future considerations.​

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• Signed unrestricted free agent Brock Boeser to a three-year deal worth $6 million per season.​

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• Signed UFA Adam Gaudette to a three-year deal worth $2.8 million per.​

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• Signed restricted free agent Will Cuylle to a two-year deal worth $2.75 million per.​

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• Signed RFA Matt Rempe to a two-year deal worth $1.25 million per.​

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• Signed RFA Adam Edstrom to a one-year deal worth $1 million.​

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These numbers and returns make no sense to me.

Holy shit - I thought this was humor but these are actually serious and in an article in the New York Times.

 

[surlysailor]

Does Eichel sign the 8 year extension on July 1? No state income taxes in Nevada.



Maurice said the room sets the culture of the team. Everyone feels part of the team. It's not the coaching.

The Rangers players sunk the season because they were mad at management over Goodrow and Trouba. Those players need to be shipped off the team. People pay good money to attend these games and these guys could not put aside their grievances.

This is why I’d keep next years first. Say Vegas gets hit with injures and are out of a playoff spot, or eichel is set on signing somewhere . Nyr can use that first to try and get eichel and sign him to an 8 year extension instead of 7. Obv id prefer mcdavid but have my doubts he’ll leave edm unless they win the cup.

 

[savebyrichter94]

Fleetwood Mac?

It’s just Second Hand News

 

[mike14]

This is why I’d keep next years first. Say Vegas gets hit with injures and are out of a playoff spot, or eichel is set on signing somewhere . Nyr can use that first to try and get eichel and sign him to an 8 year extension instead of 7. Obv id prefer mcdavid but have my doubts he’ll leave edm unless they win the cup.

8 years for a 30 y/o Eichel would be interesting. I know he's just had a career year, but I wonder how many more 'big' seasons he has left in him?
I guess you'd be hoping/expecting 2-3 'true 1st line center' years, then 3 'still an effective 2nd line guy' ones, and then not care about the last few

 

[haohmaru]

When was the last time a franchise 1C hit UFA?

 

[NYR Viper]

When was the last time a franchise 1C hit UFA?

John Tavares? I realize he wasn’t quite on that level but he was a high end 1C when he hit UFA

 

[NickyFotiu]

I make a lot of wrong calls so take it for what it's worth. I don't think Mika or Kreids gets shipped out until around Xmas. Sullivan will be given a chance to turn those two around. They'll probably know in a month or two and then another month or two to work out a deal somewhere.

I think Sully and Drury have to determine if they quit or they just played badly for other reasons. If they quit then I don't think they can gamble another season on them. If they just played badly due to other factors (age, injury, other) then they may gamble on a bounce back.

 

[haohmaru]

John Tavares? I realize he wasn’t quite on that level but he was a high end 1C when he hit UFA

Good call. Yeah, 7 years ago. I don’t expect Eichel or McDavid to sniff free agency.

 

[n8]

I think Sully and Drury have to determine if they quit or they just played badly for other reasons. If they quit then I don't think they can gamble another season on them. If they just played badly due to other factors (age, injury, other) then they may gamble on a bounce back.

Sully is signed for 5 years. He can possibly outlive Drury's stay. He's not going to advocate for butchering the roster if it's not necessary. If they quit... well we do have this reputation for reclamation projects so I can see us reclaiming what we already have.

I think I'm just projecting though. I don't want Drury to make a bad deal to "fix" the issue. Like retaining salary on a Mika that is lopsided against us is just terrible for us.

 

[Alluckks]

Ovechkin’s capitals have made the conference finals once in his career

 

[mike14]

Ovechkin’s capitals have made the conference finals once in his career

6 goals in his last 20 playoff games, and 2 of those came in game 1 against the Habs

 

[Alluckks]

6 goals in his last 20 playoff games, and 2 of those came in game 1 against the Habs

He just must not be big enough to succeed in the postseason

 

[mike14]

He just must not be big enough to succeed in the postseason

same as Wilson...

 

[NickyFotiu]

Sully is signed for 5 years. He can possibly outlive Drury's stay. He's not going to advocate for butchering the roster if it's not necessary. If they quit... well we do have this reputation for reclamation projects so I can see us reclaiming what we already have.

I think I'm just projecting though. I don't want Drury to make a bad deal to "fix" the issue. Like retaining salary on a Mika that is lopsided against us is just terrible for us.

None of us want a bad deal but I can't imagine Sully wanting to keep anyone if he knows any player quit on the team, coaches and fans. Now thats a big if. I don't know that they quit. Their decline could also be about factors other than quitting but if they did indeed quit it would be insane to me to risk another locker room full of guys and another season. Im not saying they quit. I believe CK was injured not quitting. I give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[n8]

None of us want a bad deal but I can't imagine Sully wanting to keep anyone if he knows any player quit on the team, coaches and fans. Now thats a big if. I don't know that they quit. Their decline could also be about factors other than quitting but if they did indeed quit it would be insane to me to risk another locker room full of guys and another season. Im not saying they quit. I believe CK was injured not quitting. I give him the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah, like you said before. I think CK was injured. We'll have to see how he bounces back (unless there is just a no-brainer deal to be made). I hope Mika was just going through some new parent pains and settles down + a season of good mental health for him. Last season was the most physical I think I've seen Panarin. The latter two have full NMC so it's more likely neither waive so we'll have to see what Sully can do. That's why -- as much as some people would like to -- I generally think we won't see any action until towards the Xmas break. There's insane and there's NMC. That's entirely on Drury for giving those out.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Yeah, like you said before. I think CK was injured. We'll have to see how he bounces back (unless there is just a no-brainer deal to be made). I hope Mika was just going through some new parent pains and settles down + a season of good mental health for him. Last season was the most physical I think I've seen Panarin. The latter two have full NMC so it's more likely neither waive so we'll have to see what Sully can do. That's why -- as much as some people would like to -- I generally think we won't see any action until towards the Xmas break. There's insane and there's NMC. That's entirely on Drury for giving those out.

I don't think Bread quit. He was one of a few that seemed ti be trying hard in December. The NHL is too hard a league to get 37 goals and almost 90 points in if he quit. I do want Sully and Drury to speak with both CK and Zibs. I think it was more about injuries, age, and slumps than long term out right quitting. CK had trouble playing for Team USA as well. No reason he would quit on that team.

 

[eco's bones]

I think part of the reason Kreider will be moved is the Rangers are going to need more cap space. Going into last season in the previous 3 seasons he averaged 42 goals per. For $6.5 mil if he even gets back to 30 that's pretty good. He's not a player that I would give away and I kind of think there will be teams willing to bet that he rebounds. Two years is not a lot of term left either. I wouldn't think a team would be stuck with him if it didn't work out exactly as hoped. He'll be movable again. The other thing is he got a lot of playoffs goals in those three years between 21-22 and 23-24.

I think someone had moving him for two 3rd's and I think that's not nearly enough.

As for Panarin I don't have a problem holding on to him going into the season. A decision will have to be made though because it's his final year. So if Drury was interested in keeping him he'll have to decide what a next contract would look like and as far as term I wouldn't go beyond 3 years and I'd want to drop his cap hit a bit too.