Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX (WTF are we going to do this Off-Season edition)

What's amusing to me is that what we did to Wade Redden was about a million times more insulting and nobody gave a single shit about it.
I mean some people are either too young or have limited memory of that contract & the myriad of others we handed out

I remember exactly where I was when he was finally sent to Hartford... I mean exactly & I was on the FL Turnpike going about 90 MPH

That's how happy I was
 
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Dolan sat in on the player exit interviews this year and immediately extended Drury. Very telling.

As LB and Boyle said on the pod, Mika digging in his heels citing his contract instead of saying he wanted to stay to help the team win was a really eye opening. I think he’s gonna have some tough conversations with management. “Look in the mirror” time.
A lot of fans were frustrated with Mika, now even more are turning on him for his comments. Mika absolutely f***ed himself with both days he did media (contract and season)
 
I'm thinking after signing the extension Drury contacts carle to offer him the job AND stability with drury's new contract in place. If carle bites he's the guy. If he doesn't then it will absolutely not surprise me to see torts back or tocchet hired.
 
Depends how you define bad move. Like signing nemeth and getting rid of him a year later isnt a big deal. Signing goodrow and waiving him, not a big deal. We all hate that mikas here long term but at the time we got him below market value
One's stupidity should not be judged on their ability to correct it after the fact.
 
The buchnevich trade yes, he botched, however it's not his fault that he expected a #2 overall pick to become a 65+ point top line right wing and had no choice to make future space for it.

Extending Zibanejad -- what options did he have outside of this? A free agent for $10M? Zibanejad was our version of Nathan MacKinnon, there were no options available at the time, and we're in competition for a cup. Nobody in their right mind would *not* sign him. I'll echo this same sentiment for Fox and Igor.

"the only players signed were panarin Trouba and Kreider"... You realize that at the time those 3 players accounted for $28M, right? You talk of them as if they are nobody 3rd line players combining for $10M

The nemeth trade was dumb, I'll give you that one. It ended up being assets for assets, not sure why a #5 Dman is such a hated trade by most people.

He could’ve gauged the market on z, he could’ve structured the salary cap so that it wouldn’t kill the nyr if they decided they need to buy him out. I liked z when he signed but hated 8 years. That was the typical dru move to me. Good idea but signed way too long. Goody, troch(I was prob wrong on this one) & nemeth. All good ideas but the contracts were all 2-3 years too long.

Gorton did sign those contracts, and they were pricy those were all pre Covid and the salary cap was expecting to go up similar to how it is this summer. No one could’ve foreseen the cap being stagnant when they signed.

As for kk, if he could’ve seen that both gg & pl were not going to give him extended stays with a top 6 shot and that he was the scapegoat of both coaches. He kept saying he’s an important part of this team blah blah blah but if drury is not communicating with the coaches or players he should’ve looked to move him before the scratching and kk becoming vocal and potentially diminishing his trade value.

How was nemeth assets for assets? Drury signed him to a ufa deal and then traded away 2 2nd picks to get rid of him I guess we had emberson from the deal but lost him to waivers.

Drury has some good and some bad. I’ve been liking his drafts for the most part. He’s usually pretty good at the trade deadline. He’s awful when he’s selling off players. With prospects he won’t move them until they have no value. Overall I think drury has been average. Some good moves, some brutal moves but that is most gms. I think he could’ve been a bit more creative but
 
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Depends how you define bad move. Like signing nemeth and getting rid of him a year later isnt a big deal. Signing goodrow and waiving him, not a big deal. We all hate that mikas here long term but at the time we got him below market value
Signing Goodrow to that contract was terrible, signing nemeth and having to give up multiple 2nds the next offseason is terrible, trading for Reaves was terrible, the Mika contract was bad if you had any foresight whatsoever. That’s just his first offseason, nevermind the fact he wasted so many assets trying to fill a RW void he created by trading Buch. That’s only part of his terrible decisions.
 
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Signing Goodrow to that contract was terrible, signing nemeth and having to give up multiple 2nds the next offseason is terrible, trading for Reaves was terrible, the Mika contract was bad if you had any foresight whatsoever. That’s just his first offseason, nevermind the fact he wanted so many assets trying to fill a RW void he created by trading Buch. That’s only part of his terrible decisions.
Lmao I had completely forgotten about the Reaves trade. What a beautiful mind at work
 
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Realistic discussions is - which teams are on Kreider's 15 team no trade list, because without moving him and Soucy, I don't see a way the team can make any changes, especially if those changes include keeping Zibanejad and Panarin. I guess there's a world where they keep Soucy and trade K'Andre, then bring in a UFA D, but without moving Kreider or Trocheck, I don't see the space to do it.

My guess would be: SJ, CBJ, ANA, CGY, CHI, EDM, WPG, LA, UTA, SEA, BUF, VAN, OTT, MON, TOR - if he wants to stay. That's all the Canadian teams and the teams with the most cap space.
 

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