Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX (WTF are we going to do this Off-Season edition)

[kovazub94]

Drury is such a fraud

We have 260 posts from you telling us how much you dislike Drury and I can confirm that we got it. Feel free to expand your contribution whenever you're ready.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

There's no way any owner can watch these break up videos and keep the man in charge. If Dolan doesn't see it he may as well sell the franchise

 

[will1066]

@Gordon Bombay

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Kreider all season: “when the seasons ends, the blood moon rises and Neptune and Venus align, I will share my tale for all to know”

Kreider at breakup day: “obviously it was a tough season and some things happened but that’s life, y’know. Backcheck, forecheck, paycheck.”

 

[Boris Zubov]

I'm starting to think the dead cap hit from buying him out might not be so intolerable.

Nope...our braindead GM gave him a deal that is buyout proof. We get basically no cap savings from buying him out. Then he doubled down & wrote it up the same way for our overpaid goalie.

 

[NYR Viper]

Oh I could see Tochett as the guy here. Peca and Muse as Assistants

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Kreider all season: “when the seasons ends, the blood moon rises and Neptune and Venus align, I will share my tale for all to know”

Kreider at breakup day: “obviously it was a tough season and some things happened but that’s life, y’know. Backcheck, forecheck, paycheck.”

He also said he was hurt all year.

 

[kovazub94]

I hope people here cut him some slack now. Something was not right with him. I hope he can rest up and come back strong next season. If he is going to be traded after all this coming out. Drury can go F off.

I have very little doubt that there will be a sizable rebound next season pretty much across the board from all players that significantly underperformed this season. But in Kreider's case with one year left on his contract I think the trade return can outweigh the benefit of him being in the lineup next year even with a turnaround.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Oh I could see Tochett as the guy here. Peca and Muse as Assistants

Why we clinging to Peca, didnt Toronto dump him for the same reasons?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I have very little doubt that there will be a sizable rebound next season pretty much across the board from all players that significantly underperformed this season. But in Kreider's case with one year left on his contract I think the trade return can outweigh the benefit of him being in the lineup next year even with a turnaround.

The biggest problem is he's a 3rd line penalty killer on this team and it's overpaid for that. We will miss him a lot on the pk if he leaves.

 

[LokiDog]

Based on the quotes we’re getting, and yes it will probably annoy some posters to say so, but this is partially the change over to a roster where the oldest guys are young millennials and half the team are Gen Z or whatever. I mean, it just is. Kreids and Mika make the millennial cut off by like 3-5 years, Fox and Laf and everyone else are Gen Z. There isn’t a player born before 91 on the team. This generation of players will expect communication and gentle management and inclusion. Even Ovie and Sid are 80s babies. That breed is dying out. This is the new future. When the second oldest guy on the team was born in 93 and we’re concerned with their age, that’s just reality.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

He also said he was hurt all year.

I’m not talking about his play. We all knew he was injured.

He was clearly dissatisfied with the organization and had hinted we would learn why eventually.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

DeHaan saying nothing to reflect on with this team cause he only played 3 games

Guy is hilarious. I hope he told Drury to f*** off in his interview

 

[Mike in Houston]

He also said he was hurt all year.

I was told those are just excuses.

 

[Fitzy]

Based on the quotes we’re getting, and yes it will probably annoy some posters to say so, but this is partially the change over to a roster where the oldest guys are young millennials and half the team are Gen Z or whatever. I mean, it just is. Kreids and Mika make the millennial cut off by like 3-5 years, Fox and Laf and everyone else are Gen Z. There isn’t a player born before 91 on the team. This generation of players will expect communication and gentle management and inclusion. Even Ovie and Sid are 80s babies. That breed is dying out. This is the new future. When the second oldest guy on the team was born in 93 and we’re concerned with their age, that’s just reality.

And if this was a skincare company or random middle management office in corporate America, that'd probably be for the best.

For competitive sports, where a significant portion of the entertainment is frequent and consistent victory... you'd expect a different mindset to prevail

Athens-Sparta situation

 

[LokiDog]

And if this was a skincare company or random middle management office in corporate America, that'd probably be for the best.

For competitive sports, where a significant portion of the entertainment is frequent and consistent victory... you'd expect a different mindset to prevail

Athens-Sparta situation

I agree. I’m just acknowledging that it’s what we’re seeing. Whether other posters like it or not, the team needs a few Spartans. I’m Ovie’s age. I’ll be getting issued my walker next year.

 

[effen]

I have very little doubt that there will be a sizable rebound next season pretty much across the board from all players that significantly underperformed this season. But in Kreider's case with one year left on his contract I think the trade return can outweigh the benefit of him being in the lineup next year even with a turnaround.

Separate performance from this, the longest tenured, most respected guy in the room *at best* let the team completely quit for 20 games in December because they decided they were pissy over... uh... the GM wanting to improve the team by any means necessary.

f*** all the way off, and double f*** off throwing out another injury to scare teams off from trading for you. 4D chess.

 

[Machinehead]

Okay, let's talk about this for a second. Yes, Drury is an nincompoop with poor communication skills. Yes, he should be fired. Yes, he's a dipshit who contributed to this team being ruined.


But what the f*** is this quote? "When you don't know what's going on"? What? You have a f***ing job to do. Whether Trouba or Goodrow on the ice doesn't mean shit. You give effort and you perform. I don't care if you're playing with Trouba or a f***ing tuba with ice skates. You do your best.

Whatever happens, happens, and you kinda suck it up and do your job. I get that.

I think the issue is that nothing was communicated and Drury was exposed as not really having a plan.

He thought he was gonna get Goodrow to waive and he didn't, so his story changed on that. Trouba was gonna be gone in the summer, and then he wasn't, and then he was gone again.

 

[will1066]

I’m not talking about his play. We all knew he was injured.

He was clearly dissatisfied with the organization and had hinted we would learn why eventually.

Have we learned why? Serious question. His latest comments focused on him not being healthy, nothing criticizing management or the organization.

 

[TheTakedown]

Mika confirmed cancer. Get f***ing lost loser

 

[kovazub94]

I know he wasn’t going to talk about it.

Wanted to know if he had any other thoughts about what happened this year.

He is the only one who didn't have a down season overall or even a prolonged lapse for part of the season (and lucky you - he didn't get to disappoint you again for his post-season performance). TBH with his age and only one season left on the contract I'd ask him more about his future plans, including potentially going back to play in Russia.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Have we learned why? Serious question. His latest comments focused on him not being healthy, nothing criticizing management or the organization.

Nope, not that I’m aware of. Hence my post lol.

 

[TheTakedown]

Clearly Jim Ramsey was the problem all along

I was thinking about this. It puts the whole "trouba was irate with management" into a new light, perhaps Ramsay was in fact losing his touch and needed to go...

That said, Drury still could have handled things better I will give the players that, but it doesn't change the reality of the situation...

 

[effen]

Mika, Kreider, and Fox led a hissy fit mutiny that took a month+ for them to get over and stop actively sabotaging things.

In the meantime, not a single other guy stepped up and filled any void. Kakko kept moseying along playing defense. Panarin kept tossing cross ice saucers. Laf chewed some gum. Cuylle threw a bunch of useless 1 on 3 hits in between playing like a normal NHL player unlike the rest of them.

If I had my way I'd scorched earth those first 3 guys out in any way possible. That's your core and your core stopped trying.

 

[bernmeister]

I hope people here cut him some slack now. Something was not right with him. I hope he can rest up and come back strong next season. If he is going to be traded after all this coming out. Drury can go F off.

I said he WAS injured, but no, a group of you had to insist, with no good reason, that he wasn't and like Zib, h was dogging it
fug you

The problem with the “oh the team should’ve just shut them down to let them heal up” takes is that the player has to agree to it. If they don’t, it becomes a labor issue with the league and union.

And when you have guys like Goodrow, Lindgren, Trouba, Kreider who’d rather be a “warrior” and play through the injury, regardless of how badly, then well you’re just kinda stuck.

We don't know how much of this is him, and how much is Drury, and how much of this is medical staff.
I agree he should have been shut down, but I don't believe all the blame for him playing is his exclusively