Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX (WTF are we going to do this Off-Season edition)

[tiggles]

Accountability. That's what I'm looking for. No excuses. No talk about "outside noise". No talk about Trouba or Goodrow. I want to hear that these pansies take responsibility for their play and effort, both of which were lacking.

"I have a job that I'm paid a lot of money to do. I haven't been good. I'll work on this summer to get better."

That's what I want to hear.

I mean, they're also saying the second thing. But people want an explanation for what happened this season, and if the first thing was a major influence, whether it should have been or not, do you want them to be honest about it or lie?

 

[tlk]

Jettison K'Andre back to Minnesota.

 

[Homelander]

Okay, let's talk about this for a second. Yes, Drury is an nincompoop with poor communication skills. Yes, he should be fired. Yes, he's a dipshit who contributed to this team being ruined.


But what the f*** is this quote? "When you don't know what's going on"? What? You have a f***ing job to do. Whether Trouba or Goodrow on the ice doesn't mean shit. You give effort and you perform. I don't care if you're playing with Trouba or a f***ing tuba with ice skates. You do your best.

 

[Homelander]

But people want an explanation for what happened this season, and if the first thing was a major influence, whether it should have been or not, do you want them to be honest about it or lie?

Then the answer should be, "no explanation. I haven't played well. I need to be better. Period."

 

[tiggles]

Then the answer should be, "no explanation. I haven't played well. I need to be better. Period."

Okay, probably no need for media day then, huh? Everyone can just have their agent put out a statement that says, "I wasn't good. I will be better. The following are the injuries I was dealing with this year:"

 

[Mike in Houston]

Good shit, Zac!

 

[Levitate]

If players on one hand are saying "Goodrow and Trouba being moved were distractions" I'd also like them to say "but we didn't handle those distractions well and we need to do better focusing on hockey"

Yes they're human and people are gonna handle things in whatever ways but it still does come down to being paid more money than most people will ever see, ever, only "working" for 2/3 of the year, and basically playing a game for the entertainment of other people and being set for life afterwards. The "woe is me life is hard" only gets you so far in those circumstances. Yes, maybe that's "unfair" but people pay money to watch these guys play hockey, their entire job is "win games and entertain people" and when you're too busy with your head up your ass about that to put in the effort then get a f***in wakeup call

millions if not billions of people go through every day dealing with bigger and harder things in their lives with far less slack given to them by their bosses and such

 

[Homelander]

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

You’d still be calling them p***yes and pansies, mate.

No, I wouldn't call them p***yes and pansies if they didn't mention "outside noise" and allude to Trouba and Goodrow.

 

[Homelander]

Okay, probably no need for media day then, huh? Everyone can just have their agent put out a statement that says, "I wasn't good. I will be better. The following are the injuries I was dealing with this year:"

Yeah? Like every press conference. It's all lip service.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

So far, I've only liked what Laff and Jones has said. Schneiders play this year and the end of last explains a lot with the Labrum issue. It's something you can play through, though your not playing at 100%. Will be very interested to see what he looks like start of next season.

 

[Homelander]

Can't believe I'm agreeing with Olbermann, but here we are

 

[Homelander]

Bingo. Compare Trocheck's answer and Mika's answer and you see the difference in approach.

 

[Levitate]

Okay, let's talk about this for a second. Yes, Drury is an nincompoop with poor communication skills. Yes, he should be fired. Yes, he's a dipshit who contributed to this team being ruined.


But what the f*** is this quote? "When you don't know what's going on"? What? You have a f***ing job to do. Whether Trouba or Goodrow on the ice doesn't mean shit. You give effort and you perform. I don't care if you're playing with Trouba or a f***ing tuba with ice skates. You do your best.

Yeah this is what I'm talking about. Shut the f*** up, pull your heads out of your asses, and do your job. You can do it without Goodrow and Trouba. As a player it's not your job to know everything that's going on. If you want to coach, retire and get into coaching. If you wanna GM, retire and start working on that.

You're not player, coach, and GM, which is what some of these guys seem to think

 

[Homelander]

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Rangers summoning Lindgren off LTIR:

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is lindgren known to slay beaver?

 

[effen]

There's your next coach. Mark it.

 

[Tob]

Zibanejad bitching about management again. Why dob’t you talk about how you refuse to play physical and why you dont have a single professional fight?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Okay, let's talk about this for a second. Yes, Drury is an nincompoop with poor communication skills. Yes, he should be fired. Yes, he's a dipshit who contributed to this team being ruined.


But what the f*** is this quote? "When you don't know what's going on"? What? You have a f***ing job to do. Whether Trouba or Goodrow on the ice doesn't mean shit. You give effort and you perform. I don't care if you're playing with Trouba or a f***ing tuba with ice skates. You do your best.

Who the f*** is "sean" and why do we care what he thinks?

 

[majordomo]

If only it were that simple. We're stuck with him until he wants to leave or his deal is up. The only solution is to make him uncomfortable until he's had enough.

I'm starting to think the dead cap hit from buying him out might not be so intolerable.

 

[tlk]

Bingo. Compare Trocheck's answer and Mika's answer and you see the difference in approach.

I'd loved if the NYR got all the outside noise possible. That's pride.

 

[tiggles]

Everyone hates Rangers management until its the player they don't like criticizing management.

 

[Mike in Houston]

I'd recommend everyone watch the interviews posted on YouTube to get full context.

 

[Levitate]

Everyone hates Rangers management until its the player they don't like criticizing management.

we can dislike both!

and it's not our job that's suffering while we bitch and moan about management!

 

[majordomo]

If Dolan is serious about being more hands-on, he has to take action and fire Drury. He has to do something that doesn't come naturally to him: think like a CEO of a successful company and less like a nepo baby with blind loyalty and who sits on two cash cows, whether the Knicks and Rangers are good or not. His "manager", for lack of a better word, is incompetent and lacks basic communication skills, and his employees are whiny buttholes.

Mika is right about one thing: there is no team without the players. Yes, you can't fire all 20+ players, but you can fire the moron who "hired" those players and hire a more competent manager to deal with those players accordingly.

Don't think Dolan ever learned to think like a CEO as he also grew up entitled. If you think Rangers are i disarray now, just let Dolan have one iota of interest in the Rangers that he does the Knicks and it'll be worse.

 

[kovazub94]

disconnect between the coach and GM? Coach not backing up his promises? Who told De Haan that?

I'm firmly of the camp that a GM shouldn't be telling a coach how to coach and who to put on the ice but at the same time you need to be on the same page somewhat. If you acquire a guy and tell him he's gonna play and then your coach is like "ehhh nah" then yeah there's an issue somewhere there

The only thing I got is that this conversation took place before Drury got Soucy (that we still don't know to what end because it doesn't solve Fox's partner issue or team's 1LD if you want to call it that). If not for that trade it's pretty clear that DeH would've gotten most of those minutes.