Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVIII ( TDL is March 7th)

[Boris Zubov]

Ken Gernander is in the AHL Hall of Fame.

His jersey hangs from the rafters of the Hartford Civic Center!

 

[egelband]

I’d put it this way. Hughes being out means the odds of the rangers making the playoffs are better. I don’t think, though, it has any impact on how far the rangers go once they’re in.

 

[Takeahnase]

Great...Now Drury's going to give away more draft picks to rent your left nut. Then we get to hear Bern complain about it all summer because your left nut was too old.

3.5 mill x 5 is all it is looking for.

 

[Captain Monglobster]

After the two trades today im hoping Drury is salivating. 1st round picks getting thrown around like candy. This would be a great time to pull the trigger on a franchise altering trade. Sellers market.

 

[McRanger92]

Friedman on TNT pregame talking Rantanen. Not necessarily endorsing going after him but I think going forward with him and JT as the top guys is not a terrible option. Kreider for Rantanen? Who says no?

Montreal looking for a hockey trade. Reunite Kreider with Ramsay

 

[duhmetreE]

Laffy for Power really is intriguing

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

I have seen this "country club atmosphere" wording thrown around a lot and it needs to die. It's speculation, imagination, or clinging to an idea that's not relevant anymore like it once was. It's not the late 90s or early 00s. This is not where players go to retire nor is it *the* place to go to get overpaid like it used to before the salary cap era. This is a team that's missed the playoffs a handful of times in almost two decades, and over that time did it with plenty of "homegrowns" (like Kreider). The Rangers spend, but they also compete.

Kreider has a reputation for training hard. Earning that reputation among professional athletes is... probably not easy. He has shown plenty of emotion in his 13 years with the team, and has delivered some results in big games, he has never been a passenger. If anyone wants to say he plays a soft game, I'd agree with them. He could have been a bully physically if he wanted, and he certainly could've been more physical in general. But he does not deserve to be made a scapegoat of something is probably not even guilty of himself. The team might be better moving on from him at this point or in a year or two, but if you're going to say even if he "comes back as an all star" that he's somehow a problem, that's extreme.

Fair enough that’s to the extreme but as posted by vetted posters here that have shared their knowledge, krieder among others are part of the country club atmosphere.

Country club needs to go. Plain and simple, otherwise not much has changed. You need to hand over the reigns to JT and trocheck.

It’s time to move on

Friedman on TNT pregame talking Rantanen. Not necessarily endorsing going after him but I think going forward with him and JT as the top guys is not a terrible option. Kreider for Rantanen? Who says no?

Montreal looking for a hockey trade. Reunite Kreider with Ramsay

Rant is looking at 14m per year, why in gods name do we need another winger making that type of money?

 

[Boris Zubov]

Friedman on TNT pregame talking Rantanen. Not necessarily endorsing going after him but I think going forward with him and JT as the top guys is not a terrible option. Kreider for Rantanen? Who says no?

Montreal looking for a hockey trade. Reunite Kreider with Ramsay

I don't understand why we'd give up anything for Rantanen when we could sign him without giving up any assets on July 1st.

Either way I want nothing to do with that impending contract.

 

[duhmetreE]

Mika for Mikko

Or no deal

 

[Dfence033]

Friedman on TNT pregame talking Rantanen. Not necessarily endorsing going after him but I think going forward with him and JT as the top guys is not a terrible option. Kreider for Rantanen? Who says no?

Montreal looking for a hockey trade. Reunite Kreider with Ramsay

I think Montreal fans would turn their city to rubble if they traded for Kreider. Most of them still think he intentionally hurt Price and ended a sure-bet Cup win for them.

 

[noncents]

I am over the Panarin nonsense from dummies last year. Either you have a poor understanding of what the word disappear means or you have a poor understanding of what the word playoffs means. The Florida series didn’t constitute the entirety of the playoffs. Bread had 15 points in 16 games and was very good against a tough Carolina team in round 2.

Miller had 12 in 13 games, so I suppose he disappeared too, but maybe your math is as good as your vocabulary.

Back to what actually matters in this discussion. Ottawa made the playoffs the year right before BT’s rookie year.

He has never made the playoffs. 6 going on 7 seasons.

I don’t give a damn how disappointing you think a player’s playoffs are…if you are actually in them and all you have done is scratched the ice with your blades it’s a better playoff track record than BT so far.

Let me explain this to you in crayons.

If you want to bone the prom queen you have to attend prom. And getting a slow dance with her is at least better than being at home in your Spongebob jammies eating Cheetos.

Don’t like that analogy?

When you go to the zoo you aren’t guaranteed to see the Siberian Tigers as they may be lounging behind a big rock , but there is a chance they may be active because you GOT TO THE DAMN ZOO. And you also probably got to see some giraffes and monkeys and shit (playoff series wins) and a good time was had. But if you don’t go to the f***ing zoo you ain’t seeing a damn animal in your basement unless your jammies have zebras or rhinos on them.

My left nut may be a great playoff performer but we will never know as it hasn’t made the playoffs in 6.5 years and neither has BT.

you sound like you've never had Cheetos Flamin' Hot Puffs

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Friedman on TNT pregame talking Rantanen. Not necessarily endorsing going after him but I think going forward with him and JT as the top guys is not a terrible option. Kreider for Rantanen? Who says no?

Montreal looking for a hockey trade. Reunite Kreider with Ramsay

I haven't seen Rantanen do a thing since the umbilical cord between him and MacKinnon was cut. Buyer beware.

 

[Cmox]

whoops

 

[Matt Rentfree]

whoops

there goes another rubber tree plant.

 

[pld459666]

Death, taxes, Rangers giving up an early goal, and Jack Hughes getting hurt. Dude has a Make A Wish build. He got exposed in the 4 nations. That’s why I never worry about the Devils winning a cup. Bratt is a midget too. Pond hockey works in the regular season but it’s a man’s game in the playoffs.

Lol, you nailed it

 

[duhmetreE]

I haven't seen Rantanen do a thing since the umbilical cord between him and MacKinnon was cut. Buyer beware.

Tbf they are drastically different systems

I’m suspect on him either way.

 

[Jarvi]

Would you guys trade Quick to Edmonton? Obviously Shesterkin is the guy, and Garand seems to be doing alright in the AHL.

I know he has an NTC, is he one of those guys who loves NY and would never waive? Or if you plan to retool a bit, would he rather playoffs since it looks like you are just on the outside currently? The East is too damn tight.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Would you guys trade Quick to Edmonton? Obviously Shesterkin is the guy, and Garand seems to be doing alright in the AHL.

I know he has an NTC, is he one of those guys who loves NY and would never waive? Or if you plan to retool a bit, would he rather playoffs since it looks like you are just on the outside currently? The East is too damn tight.

You only move Quick if he asks, which i doubt will happen. He's earned that right.

 

[bleedblue94]

Without Goodrow, Trouba and Lindgren, plus the addition of JT Miller, we are significantly closer to being a “contender” than any point last year. Was that not the whole point of the moves made this year?

What do any of those moves have to do with hughes?

Do you watch nyr right now and really think they are a contender?

 

[Jarvi]

You only move Quick if he asks, which i doubt will happen. He's earned that right.

I mean, I was just reading some of your fans getting hyped that it's a sellers market. If you want to retool a bit, and approach him letting him know those are the intentions and asking if he wants to go to a playoff team in Canada to finish off the year, is there any chance he says yes?

Of course a guy like that has earned the respect to have a say. I'm more curious on if you think there is any chance Drury decides to sell this year, or if Quick seems like a guy that wants to win, or stay in the US above all else.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Canes should have just pony up the money and extended Necas. Might end up being a major set back for them in the long term

 

[mas0764]

Kreider has two more years left.

I think he has the potential to return a lot more during a bounce back year than he does now when he's a corpse.

Yeah but in a bounce back year we will stupidly justify keeping him

 

[mas0764]

Not sure what your point is here. We shouldnt try to improve because the team is flawed?

Try to improve long term

I'd like to make the playoffs this year, just for the heck of it and to get our younger guys more experience, hand over the 1st to Vancouver, and move on.

But I really don't see us as a contender. Sure, you never know once you're in there, but I don't see it.

I just don't want Drury to do anything stupid before Friday. Unload the expiring contracts as much as possible, put some feelers out for an LD upgrade, and call it a day.

Don’t think we actually need to make the playoffs to hand Vancouver (Pittsburgh) our pick but this is true. Want to get that over with.

Friedman on TNT pregame talking Rantanen. Not necessarily endorsing going after him but I think going forward with him and JT as the top guys is not a terrible option. Kreider for Rantanen? Who says no?

Montreal looking for a hockey trade. Reunite Kreider with Ramsay

Can we afford Rantanen without moving Panarin? He’s gonna want 14 mil.

 

[mas0764]

Laffy for Power really is intriguing

Only if we have a plan to get 3-4 more young forwards in here.

 

[noncents]

Canes should have just pony up the money and extended Necas. Might end up being a major set back for them in the long term

we can hope