Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XVII - Want some, get some

[TheBloodyNine]

The best thing for a rebuild is a coach that's looking to win as many games as possible, despite the roster moves that need to be made. While that can tend to decrease the value of picks in the following draft, it's better to have that push and pull, rather than a coach that wants his team to draft #1 overall. "Tanking" is unsportsmanlike. Making roster moves in a lost season to bolster future rosters is not unsportsmanlike, it's just playing the game of management.

Very much doubt Penguins, Blackhawks, and Kings give two shits about this, because they are champs multiple times over.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Very much doubt Penguins, Blackhawks, and Kings give two ****s about this, because they are champs multiple times over.

Yeah, I feel like the whole "tanking is bad" thing is super overblown

Do what you got to do to win in the long term

 

[Trxjw]

I can easily see a deadline for the Rangers where they end up buying and selling. Certainly if they move two top-9 players they'd have to find replacements somehow. I.e., Kreider and Strome both go and the Rangers bring in a cheap rental to fill a spot somewhere in the lineup instead of forcing a young kid to do the job.

 

[Kendo]

Very much doubt Penguins, Blackhawks, and Kings give two ****s about this, because they are champs multiple times over.

Yeah, I feel like the whole "tanking is bad" thing is super overblown

Do what you got to do to win in the long term

For the front offices, totally. I'm just not so sure that any of those teams at their respective worst had coaches actively throwing games. Throwing games is the "licking opponents' faces" of coaching. LOL

 

[wafflepadsave]

Agreed, but I think (totally my own conjecture) that the plan is to be as competitive as possible until the trade deadline... sell some assets (Kreider? Strome? Fast?) that will be usable for a playoff team... and then start praying to the draft lottery gods.

And if enough assets are moved, there should be a decline in scoring which would result in a few more losses.

 

[Procrastinator]

For the front offices, totally. I'm just not so sure that any of those teams at their respective worst had coaches actively throwing games. Throwing games is the "licking opponents' faces" of coaching. LOL

No. This is.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

For the love of all that's holy, can people PLEASE STOP CONFLATING "tanking" and rebuilding?

–> Tanking: managing your team to lose on purpose (e.g. Buffalo in '14-'15, the Philadelphia 76ers '13-'16, the Miami Dolphins this year)

–> Rebuilding: selling off assets that have no long term future with the team to acquire younger players/picks, and then allowing the results to fall where they may (e.g. the Rangers for the last couple of years)

 

[Kendo]

For the love of all that's holy, can people PLEASE STOP CONFLATING "tanking" and rebuilding?

Was my point.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Was my point.

Wasn't directed at you.

 

[Rongomania]

Really have the feeling (and others have posted stuff like this before) that were in that 'Carolina 16/17' place right now - that's the closest thing I'm feeling this season. One more bomb laid here and we're going to be set up for a really long time.

I also think we're way better than they were before Svech, and we have better prospects than them in the pipeline.

Sell, sell, sell and make a smart trade or two in the off season. Pick high and a few times in the first. Hoping for that lotto luck one more time. This team could be insanely dangerous starting as soon as next season.

 

[bobbop]

I keep mentioning this but it’s very important, Tyler Wallis a senior in the NCAA. He can walk himself to UFA. If the Rangers must move a goalie in order to create room for him, a guy with sterling numbers in a good league, so he will sign with the Rangers they may need to. Losing a prospect like Wall for nothing would suck.

If Wall won’t sign with the Rangers, they will trade his rights.

 

[MyLoveIsBlue]

 

[True Blue]

Meh. Coaches need to say that sort of thing. Complacency will fester if you set the bar too low for too long.

Yeah. In other news, water is found to be wet. What coach would not say something like this?

 

[True Blue]

Says who? Did I miss a meeting? At the round table with JD, Gorton and Quinn a couple of months ago it was made clear that this rebuild is not over. Anybody thinking this team can start making noise in the playoffs this season is in for it... those folks should prepare to see some players get traded similar to last season.

These are the same people who are now hollering that it is the coaches fault as the season is not going to their rather lofty expectations.

 

[True Blue]

If we trade away Strome and Kreider at the deadline we could start losing a lot of games really fast.

Trade away Kreider and Fast and the team will start to go the other way.

 

[leetch99]

If we got a WC spot...who would our best chance be against... Bruins or Caps ?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

If we got a WC spot...who would our best chance be against... Bruins or Caps ?

Think the Caps but I dont like our odds either way.

 

[EpicDing]

If we got a WC spot...who would our best chance be against... Bruins or Caps ?

Caps, I think.

The Islanders also wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. THAT would be something.

 

[Ola]

Yeah, I feel like the whole "tanking is bad" thing is super overblown

Do what you got to do to win in the long term

I think that as long as only being the top of 31 is what counts — which is as it should be — all ways have there flaws.

 

[RGY]

Caps, I think.

The Islanders also wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. THAT would be something.

What i would give to play the Islanders and knock them out in round 1 after listening to all of those cocky neanderthals.

 

[B17 Apricots]

I can easily see a deadline for the Rangers where they end up buying and selling. Certainly if they move two top-9 players they'd have to find replacements somehow. I.e., Kreider and Strome both go and the Rangers bring in a cheap rental to fill a spot somewhere in the lineup instead of forcing a young kid to do the job.

I think that's ideal, maybe trade for one young roster player and sign one stopgap vet in the offseason until the kids take the next step

 

[Trxjw]

I think that's ideal, maybe trade for one young roster player and sign one stopgap vet in the offseason until the kids take the next step

I think we could see another deal like Nash where the Rangers brought back a middling player from another team. That's assuming the Rangers can't get a 22/23/24 year old NHL player somehow, which is what I expect they're pushing for with preliminary Kreider trade talks.

 

[NYR Viper]

I’m somewhat surprised the Rangers haven’t tried Beleskey on the 4th line as of yet. Cap space isn’t an issue

 

[haohmaru]

Last year was the bottom out year. This year is not.

Every year is a good year to bring a winning attitude to a franchise. Attitudes like the above leads to being like Edmonton.

 

[B17 Apricots]

Please pry Barbashev from STL