Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVI (Playoffs or Retool?)

[NYR Viper]

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Vince mentions several vet forwards, and says that Smith and Vesey specifically are 2 of them. Not many other vet forwards besides them, tells me the Rangers are listening on Kreider at the least. With the timing of this article and Vince saying basically he expects Othmann to get a call up post-trade(s), I think some of the concern about Rangers holding their own free agents as rentals can be eased.

I hope this is the case. And honestly, it's the best path in general. Let those kids play big minutes as long as possible and make the moves as needed at the deadline to give them full time gigs.

 

[kovazub94]

I hope this is the case. And honestly, it's the best path in general. Let those kids play big minutes as long as possible and make the moves as needed at the deadline to give them full time gigs.

Yeah, given what's transpired so far hockey moves should take priority and making playoffs or not - a by-product, rather than the goal

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don't think Montreal would do that. They don't have a need for Jones. They already have 5 lefties on the roster, and one of them is Lane Hutson, so Jones isn't going to get PP time. If they move Matheson, maybe they would consider it, but they might want an AHL dman back to replace Lindstrom.

Jones for Hutson. Problem solved?

 

[mike14]

Miller is the type of player to be an overwhelming net positive but his negative plays are flamboyant so people latch on to them.

You just described half of this board's relationship with Adam Fox

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

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Vince mentions several vet forwards, and says that Smith and Vesey specifically are 2 of them. Not many other vet forwards besides them, tells me the Rangers are listening on Kreider at the least. With the timing of this article and Vince saying basically he expects Othmann to get a call up post-trade(s), I think some of the concern about Rangers holding their own free agents as rentals can be eased.

I’ll believe it when I see it. Plus still have to move krieder and lindgren

 

[MrAlmost]

Smith and Vesey out at minimum. Lindgren? Well we all have beat that drum for too long. Kreider we will see.

Without Kreider:
Panarin-Miller-Laf
Cuylle-Z-Kaliyev
Othmann-Tro-Berard
Brod-Carrick-Rempe

 

[NickyFotiu]

What do you guys think of Kaliyev so far? Good pick up?

 

[McRanger92]

What do you guys think of Kaliyev so far? Good pick up?

much better than brodzinski and vesey with some potential upside

 

[NickyFotiu]

much better than brodzinski and vesey with some potential upside

I think he seems like a really smart pickup. Could turn out to be nothing but was risk free and has shown a good shot, willingness to shoot, and some power to drive towards the net.

 

[UnparalledPark]

I havent found this to be the case with K'Andre the last few playoff runs. Trouba and Lindgren are more the types to cost you playoff games imo.

Lindgren I agree. Yeah, remember all those times last year when opposing players went around Trouba like he was standing still? A lot of those times Miller wasn’t even in the TV picture. Where was he. Miller lost the Colorado game in the last 14 seconds with a poor decision. I counted 3 goals in the 6-3 Boston game where his decisions caused odd man rushes the other way. He plays D by letting his man get by him to the outside, then he latches on with his left arm and tries to poke check the puck with his right. Sometimes he is successful and it’s a great play. Other times not so much, and it leads to another cross ice pass for a league leading cross ice pass goal against. He pinches when he should stay back. He’ll body his man while leaving his partner alone for a 2 on 1. My wife can tell you how many times this year I yelled at the TV saying “what are you doing” and it’s usually Lindgren or Key I’m yelling at. Incredible talent. Incredibly poor decision maker. Not our biggest problem, but we won’t win a cup with him. Other teams will take a chance on him. He’s our best trade chip. Do so before we have to pay 7 mil per.

 

[bernmeister]

I think he seems like a really smart pickup. Could turn out to be nothing but was risk free and has shown a good shot, willingness to shoot, and some power to drive towards the net.

yeah while want to avoid shiny new toy syndrome and grab as the rule and not the exception, I concur w/the above

He is night and day HUGE over Vesey across the board

Brodz getting shit on and it's not warranted.
Upside of Kal IS more, but Brodz is a legit pivot, better skater, more polished, etc

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Yeah, given what's transpired so far hockey moves should take priority and making playoffs or not - a by-product, rather than the goal

Lets hope Dolan the Dolt agrees with you.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Just watching Chris Kreider speak and he seems different. Wonder what is going on with him.

 

[UnparalledPark]

Miller is the type of player to be an overwhelming net positive but his negative plays are flamboyant so people latch on to them.

The problem is our opponents Latch onto them as well.

 

[lakeshirts37]

AFP Projections

Anyone seen this yet? Gavrikov and Orlov seem reasonable based on projections

Gavrikov - 5 years @ $5.4m
Orlov - 3 @ $5m
Maata - 3 @ $3.1m
Kovacevix - 2 years @ $1.55m

They have K'Andre Miller @ 6 years and $5.3m cap hit. SIGN THAT DEAL NOW

I dont think Gavrikov’s AAV will be decreasing but what do I know

 

[lakeshirts37]

Nope.

Trade Lindgren and Kreider (I don't care much for what Smith or Vesey would bring especially with Edstrom gone for a few months).
Bring a legitimate top-4 LD to partner with Fox

Kreider isnt going anywhere this season