Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVI (Playoffs or Retool?)

[Fitzy]

I think they're looking for a way for him to retire a Ranger without trading him.

For Kreider???

LTIR will have to be an option then.

I’m amenable to it, just will have to prove his back is an issue enough to warrant all the scrutiny

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

For Kreider???

LTIR will have to be an option then.

I’m amenable to it, just will have to prove his back is an issue enough to warrant all the scrutiny

That interview he did with Molly(?) would be a good starting point.

 

[Vitto79]

I think they're looking for a way for him to retire a Ranger without trading him.

He’s not useless and has 2 yrs left

 

[Kocur Dill]

Boi.
If you think you've seen a shitshow at any point this season...

Just wait till the team has no hope left and officially out of the race.

We gunna see a spectacle of checked out that defies comprehension.

That'll tell you exactly who needs to go.

When the games go on, and there is nothing to play for except pride.

 

[SA16]

For Kreider???

LTIR will have to be an option then.

I’m amenable to it, just will have to prove his back is an issue enough to warrant all the scrutiny

He missed like two games with the "back issue" in January. He's playing in the four nations tournament next week. The back is a made up issue based off of one interview. At absolute most it's a minor annoyance.

 

[eco's bones]

Make the moves for a better tomorrow. Kreider, Vesey, Smith, Lindgren out. Call up berard and Othmann.

Panarin-Miller-Laf
Cuylle-Z-Berard
Othmann-Tro-Kaliyev
Brod-Carrick-Rempe

Miller-Fox
Jones-Brogen
Vaak-Schneider

See what you have now to make better decisions in the summer. Maybe Panarin or Z goes, but i don't think that roster is far off in the sense that it has the bones to make a playoff threat. Perreault joins and replaces Kaliyev and plays with Z and cuylle. Moves berard to that 3rd line and now the top 9 is cooking.

I'd add Maata. Cheap and can play with Fox. Puts Miller back with Borgen and they have been good enough. Vaak is a perfect 7. Add another proper LD (Gavrikov) and 25-26 is looking good. And bunch of cap for...McDavid. As is his birthright.

Not to mention the good picks to restock the prospect pool from the trades.

Don't be a coward Drury. This is the reset that can get this team and culture back in the right direction.

As for Lavi, I don't know. Peca has a good mind for the game. Maybe just make him the HC. He's a tough SOB like Rod. And this team would be way more fun to watch cause at least all the players in there want it.

Trocheck is a much better player now than Zibanejad. I think Mika will be very difficult to move and if he stays he's likely to spend a good amount of his time on the wing. I also think Jones is getting moved as well. The writing's been on the wall for him for a long time and I don't think the Rangers have all that much faith in him as a player.

If we move out Kreider, Smith and Lindgren without taking $'s back we should have a lot of shopping money when free agency opens up in July. Not necessarily the best free agent class but we should be able to add a couple decent defensemen which might go a long way towards a better next year.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

He’s not useless and has 2 yrs left

Right now, I wouldn't go so far as to say he's useful either.

 

[bl02]

Great have we traded Cuylle and a first rounder for Buch yet?

 

[eco's bones]

He missed like two games with the "back issue" in January. He's playing in the four nations tournament next week. The back is a made up issue based off of one interview. At absolute most it's a minor annoyance.

Yeah I don't think it's as major an issue as some are making it out to be. If he were to sit out this tournament that would at least signal it was. Injury or not Kreider has had a bad season. Not quite as bad as Mika though.

 

[bl02]

Trocheck is a much better player now than Zibanejad. I think Mika will be very difficult to move and if he stays he's likely to spend a good amount of his time on the wing. I also think Jones is getting moved as well. The writing's been on the wall for him for a long time and I don't think the Rangers have all that much faith in him as a player.

If we move out Kreider, Smith and Lindgren without taking $'s back we should have a lot of shopping money when free agency opens up in July. Not necessarily the best free agent class but we should be able to add a couple decent defensemen which might go a long way towards a better next year.

I would take Trocheck at 8 million over 93 at 5 million. It's not even close.

 

[eco's bones]

I would take Trocheck at 8 million over 93 at 5 million. It's not even close.

Mika hasn't played even like a $5mil player though. Much of this year it wasn't just his offensive production was down.......his play away from the puck was atrocious and plays he personally made probably cost us several games. Yeah he's been kind of a better the last month or so but it's also kind of too late. Our season seems dead already.

It seems to me that some of our guys can't wait for this season to be over with.

 

[Siddi]

Trocheck is a much better player now than Zibanejad.

Injury or not Kreider has had a bad season. Not quite as bad as Mika though.

I am curious, do you have any stats to back those statements or is it just the "eye test"?

Because what you are saying goes against all kind of analytics. Both in regards to Trocheck being the better player "now" and the statement that Kreider has had the better season.

 

[Vitto79]

Right now, I wouldn't go so far as to say he's useful either.

Right now, I wouldn't go so far as to say he's useful either.

Hes got a decent amount of goals just not assists . He’s going to have value in a trade

 

[bleedblue94]

Can't wait for the tochet to nyr rumors start up (it's going to happen)...

And yes he and JT are fine. They are hard on each other but they weren't the issue in Vancouver.

 

[pld459666]

Crawling out from under a rock here, but the answers that Laviolette provided after Pitt?

Hes lost the room. He's not long for this team.

 

[bernmeister]

You think they can move the Zib contract ?
It’s too long

Kreider Will have more value currently even if he’s struggled

bold = true!
BUT
while you can't change the term of the contract
you CAN retain, 2x if we pay a team
like ANA 4 6ths or equiv to eat half again like 2.25 or so
whatev
bottom line is final zib cap hit is 2.5-ish per

at that price, risk is down
acceptable upside for a suitor

underline = false
More value than unretained zib is irrelevant.
Kreider is a health risk
no reason for a suitor to pay now

He missed like two games with the "back issue" in January. He's playing in the four nations tournament next week. The back is a made up issue based off of one interview. At absolute most it's a minor annoyance.

how the f*** do you know this?
In most games played esp lately he has struggled and has had to pick spots when he can/should exert

Hes got a decent amount of goals just not assists . He’s going to have value in a trade

No
Gs are constant the whole season
A team will look at current health NOW

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Crawling out from under a rock here, but the answers that Laviolette provided after Pitt?

Hes lost the room. He's not long for this team.

Wonder what the record is for a "core group" getting coaches fired? Rangers must hold it.