Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XV (Light em up!)

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Wish we had gotten Fowler in that Trouba trade, was supposed to happen, but it fell through. Check out his stats in St. Louis now since being traded. Instead we have the Borg. Not terrible but not good either.

i’m sure fowler would look great here and we’d be winning games

 

[Boris Zubov]

Sell everything over 25

Fixed

 

[Mac n Gs]

 

[Kords]

Any subscribers care to copy pasta?

 

[Profet]

Wish we had gotten Fowler in that Trouba trade, was supposed to happen, but it fell through. Check out his stats in St. Louis now since being traded. Instead we have the Borg. Not terrible but not good either.

Fowler would have been Shattenkirk 2.0 if he was here.

 

[Guyute]

Any subscribers care to copy pasta?

TLDR:

Brooks said it's as bad as he's ever seen since following in the late 70s, even worse than the Dark Ages from 1997-2004.

Everyone knows the splintered core group of players is to blame. Nevertheless, Laviolette hasn't done himself any favors and will likely be fired whether it be this week, this month, or this summer.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Larry must be loving the clicks all this drama is getting him

Writing dramatic ass pieces like this

 

[17futurecap]

 

[Atax]

Larry must be loving the clicks all this drama is getting him

Writing dramatic ass pieces like this

Is he wrong?

 

[Boris Zubov]

Is he wrong?

It's not like HE created this drama.

 

[MrAlmost]

Is he wrong?

You're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole.

 

[94leetch]

I want to know who's idea it was to pump up Miller's return as something that was going to boost the team. Really?

 

[MrAlmost]

It's not like HE created this drama.

He did. He grabbed a scoop from someone outside the org and it snowballed.

 

[UnparalledPark]

And what exactly are we doing with our Rhd if we move Schneider.
We have Emory but he’s at least another 2 years away. Rushing him is a bad thing as he has a couple clear deficiencies to his game.

I like cozens as a reshape piece. I just don’t think we can get him without hurting ourselves worse.

It’s easier to acquire a bottom 4 RD than a young and physical 2C.

 

[Boris Zubov]

He did. He grabbed a scoop from someone outside the org and it snowballed.

That's nonsense. This was going to blow up one way or another when Trouba kicked & screamed over the summer. Brooks also didn't create the bitter feelings in the locker room that the team has over the Goodrow situation. Nor is he responsible for them completely pouting like a bunch of teenagers.

To suggest that a writer is responsible for the behavior & performance of 20+ pro athletes is laughable, honestly. And a giant cop out.

 

[Trxjw]

It's well past the time to turn this team over to the kids. Do it before you let this veteran group stomp out any semblance of passion or desire that might still exist within them.

The core needs to go. Laviolette needs to go. You're probably not finding the perfect replacement immediately. So pull Peca aside and tell him he can have the reins with two objectives: Facilitate the transition of leadership to the kids and help this team find a real identity. Playoffs? Not an expectation. Just fix the culture.

Pull Mika aside and tell him he's getting demoted to the team's 3rd line center. No power play time. He's welcome to ride out the rest of that contract in that role if that's what he wants to do. The bed is made but nothing says we have to give him a comfortable mattress and nice sheets to lie in.

Trade Kreider. I don't care about his legacy as a Ranger at this point. He's not Brian Leetch who go run out of town. He's quit like everyone else. I wanted him moved when he still had value but here we are. The team has once again waited to move a player until his value is probably at it's lowest but it is what it is. The value add is in moving on, not in what you get back in a trade.

I'd keep Trocheck and Smith. They at least look like they give a shit.

I'd see if Bread is willing to waive. He's the one really valuable piece we have that could bring back something impactful. 18 months of a 100 point player at less than $6M is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[17futurecap]

That's nonsense. This was going to blow up one way or another when Trouba kicked & screamed over the summer. Brooks also didn't create the bitter feelings in the locker room that the team has over the Goodrow situation. Nor is he responsible for them completely pouting like a bunch of teenagers.

To suggest that a writer is responsible for the behavior & performance of 20+ pro athletes is laughable, honestly. And a giant cop out.

90 year old Larry Brooks bringing down the Rangers.

 

[Filip Chytil]

 

[Boris Zubov]

90 year old Larry Brooks bringing down the Rangers.

Its about time he stood up for himself at the bus stop!

 

[Filip Chytil]

 

[will1066]

Rangers are now dead last in the Metro.

I won't be satisfied until they're dead last in the A.

Lmao

Structure. Yes, teach that.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Is he wrong?

Yeah, I think he’s sensationalizing. The entire team hasn’t quit. The organizational decisions have made a few core pieces seemingly quit. Along with decline from those players has magnified the issue. And the rest of the players aren’t good enough to overcome it.

I will say, hopefully Larry is getting paid for the water he’s carrying for Drury. Because he’s doing his damndest to have Drury come out smelling like roses, for something Drury allowed to happen.

 

[toNYRico]

Careful, Larry. This rotten core of losers (specifically, Kreider and Mika) might try and get you fired next.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Rangers have quit on Peter Laviolette — and it will eventually cost him his job​

Ownership and management had no stomach for this. The hierarchy was not going to allow this flawed core to fire another head coach less than two years after beseeching GM Chris Drury to dismiss Gerard Gallant in May of 2023, 11 months after going to the conference final.

But that’s what this splintered core has effectively done even if Peter Laviolette remains behind the Rangers bench much like a broken general pleading with his troops not to desert the battlefield. It is only a matter of time, whether it is this week, next month or the moment the season ends.

This is like the old movie plot in which a man has been poisoned and knows he will die in 24 hours but takes the time left to track down his murderer. But in this case, it does not take nearly that long to identify the culprit.

It’s the core.

Now the splintered core.

The Rangers have quit on their coach, they have quit on the organization, they have quit on themselves, they have quit on each other, they have quit on the fans who pay top dollar to fill the Garden and they have quit on New York.

This is worse than the Dark Ages of 1997 through 2004 in which mercenaries filled the Ranger$ roster and missed the playoffs seven straight seasons. I have been watching the Rangers for nearly 70 years, I was in the side balcony while the team was an Original Six laughingstock and I was in the blue seats when it all came tumbling down for Emile in 1975-76, but I don’t know if I have seen anything quite like this ongoing disgrace to the sweater.

Laviolette and his staff have done themselves no favors. The Rangers have no structure. They have not defended from Game 1. There is no coherent way out of the defensive zone. There is no forecheck. The neutral zone has become a sieve. The same mistakes are committed over and over again. There have been few adjustments. There has been no accountability.

This last-place team does not present a single redeeming quality. They lack self-belief. They do not compete. At this point, there is not a single player who is playing well. This has become an unhealthy environment for the kids who are supposed to be learning how to conduct themselves.

Aww, are the core’s feelings hurt? In nearly a half-century in this business, I have never heard more about feelings than I have the last three months.
Barclay Goodrow’s feelings were hurt. Jacob Trouba’s feelings were hurt. Their friends’ feelings were hurt. Boo hoo. Funny, none of them have asked to be traded. I guess they just thought they were just going to fire another coach or maybe this time get the GM.

This is not about saving this season. Yesterday’s not only gone, so is tomorrow. This is about restoring a modicum of credibility to the operation. This is about reapplying a standard so that Drury and the hierarchy have the proper intelligence to make personnel decisions that will impact the next decade.
Ownership proved in 2018 that the goal is not to simply scrape into the playoffs for a couple of postseason home games but to win the Stanley Cup. The Rangers will take a step back in order to take two steps forward.

Drury has made his share of mistakes. The Substack message after which the team has rolled into a fetal position was a mistake, but the team had just had consecutive no-show first periods and had already been outclassed decisively by Washington, Winnipeg and had been humiliated at home by Buffalo. Toxicity had already been in the air for weeks.

The GM’s biggest mistake, however, was not recognizing that bringing Trouba back into the room after the events of the summer — documented accurately in this space in July and in September — would prove destructive.

Power against power, Trouba won but what are his winnings? He will be remembered as the worst captain in the history of the franchise, he has been bounced across the country, separated from his family, could be moved again at the deadline and maybe again over the summer. Or maybe there will be a buyout. A more Pyrrhic victory has never been achieved.

There are seismic decisions ahead. The core as we know it is finished. But they got themselves one more one pelt, didn’t they?

Fait accompli.

The 2024-25 Rangers’ only accomplishment.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Rangers have quit on Peter Laviolette — and it will eventually cost him his job​

Ownership and management had no stomach for this. The hierarchy was not going to allow this flawed core to fire another head coach less than two years after beseeching GM Chris Drury to dismiss Gerard Gallant in May of 2023, 11 months after going to the conference final.

But that’s what this splintered core has effectively done even if Peter Laviolette remains behind the Rangers bench much like a broken general pleading with his troops not to desert the battlefield. It is only a matter of time, whether it is this week, next month or the moment the season ends.

This is like the old movie plot in which a man has been poisoned and knows he will die in 24 hours but takes the time left to track down his murderer. But in this case, it does not take nearly that long to identify the culprit.

It’s the core.

Now the splintered core.

The Rangers have quit on their coach, they have quit on the organization, they have quit on themselves, they have quit on each other, they have quit on the fans who pay top dollar to fill the Garden and they have quit on New York.

This is worse than the Dark Ages of 1997 through 2004 in which mercenaries filled the Ranger$ roster and missed the playoffs seven straight seasons. I have been watching the Rangers for nearly 70 years, I was in the side balcony while the team was an Original Six laughingstock and I was in the blue seats when it all came tumbling down for Emile in 1975-76, but I don’t know if I have seen anything quite like this ongoing disgrace to the sweater.

Laviolette and his staff have done themselves no favors. The Rangers have no structure. They have not defended from Game 1. There is no coherent way out of the defensive zone. There is no forecheck. The neutral zone has become a sieve. The same mistakes are committed over and over again. There have been few adjustments. There has been no accountability.

This last-place team does not present a single redeeming quality. They lack self-belief. They do not compete. At this point, there is not a single player who is playing well. This has become an unhealthy environment for the kids who are supposed to be learning how to conduct themselves.

Aww, are the core’s feelings hurt? In nearly a half-century in this business, I have never heard more about feelings than I have the last three months.
Barclay Goodrow’s feelings were hurt. Jacob Trouba’s feelings were hurt. Their friends’ feelings were hurt. Boo hoo. Funny, none of them have asked to be traded. I guess they just thought they were just going to fire another coach or maybe this time get the GM.

This is not about saving this season. Yesterday’s not only gone, so is tomorrow. This is about restoring a modicum of credibility to the operation. This is about reapplying a standard so that Drury and the hierarchy have the proper intelligence to make personnel decisions that will impact the next decade.
Ownership proved in 2018 that the goal is not to simply scrape into the playoffs for a couple of postseason home games but to win the Stanley Cup. The Rangers will take a step back in order to take two steps forward.

Drury has made his share of mistakes. The Substack message after which the team has rolled into a fetal position was a mistake, but the team had just had consecutive no-show first periods and had already been outclassed decisively by Washington, Winnipeg and had been humiliated at home by Buffalo. Toxicity had already been in the air for weeks.

The GM’s biggest mistake, however, was not recognizing that bringing Trouba back into the room after the events of the summer — documented accurately in this space in July and in September — would prove destructive.

Power against power, Trouba won but what are his winnings? He will be remembered as the worst captain in the history of the franchise, he has been bounced across the country, separated from his family, could be moved again at the deadline and maybe again over the summer. Or maybe there will be a buyout. A more Pyrrhic victory has never been achieved.

There are seismic decisions ahead. The core as we know it is finished. But they got themselves one more one pelt, didn’t they?

Fait accompli.

The 2024-25 Rangers’ only accomplishment.

Larry went full scorched earth. OMG this is glorious!

Gotta say it feels like he's pulled some of his copy right from these pages. Is @LokiDog Larry Brooks?