Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVI

[Rangers394]

I don’t think Brodin would be a better deal next season at all. Trouba needs a better partner ASAP. Brodin will probably get a raise in UFA, and getting him for a year let’s the Rangers see firsthand if he is worth it before committing. It’s a great move and probably wouldn’t cost anything that would hurt the Rangers.

If you don’t like RNH I listed 5 other options that make sense. You may not like RNH but the Rangers have been after him before.

I think Brodin being a better trade next year has something to do with the expansion draft and who we protect.

i'm not giving up any assets for a 2c so nothing really interests me. It's not a huge need.

 

[Savant]

I think Brodin being a better trade next year has something to do with the expansion draft and who we protect.

i'm not giving up any assets for a 2c so nothing really interests me. It's not a huge need.

The point on trading for Brodin is that you don’t have to protect him. Not sure what the disconnect is here. Expansion draft is not relevant to Brodin

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’m not trading squat for Brodin considering he’s a UFA after next season

 

[GAGLine]

What do people think about Roope Hintz as a target for center? Dallas needs offensive help, they have cap space, and we have players we could trade.

He has really good size and would give Kakko a fellow Finn.

 

[Savant]

I’m not trading squat for Brodin considering he’s a UFA after next season

That’s a good thing.

 

[Rangers394]

What do people think about Roope Hintz as a target for center? Dallas needs offensive help, they have cap space, and we have players we could trade.

He has really good size and would give Kakko a fellow Finn.

I like Hintz but isn't he a winger?

 

[Savant]

What do people think about Roope Hintz as a target for center? Dallas needs offensive help, they have cap space, and we have players we could trade.

He has really good size and would give Kakko a fellow Finn.

Would be amazing but doubt Dallas moves him.

 

[aufheben]

What do people think about Roope Hintz as a target for center? Dallas needs offensive help, they have cap space, and we have players we could trade.

He has really good size and would give Kakko a fellow Finn.

I don’t see why they’d want to trade him. Hintz is a beast.

 

[GAGLine]

I like Hintz but isn't he a winger?

He's listed at both LW and C, and he took 345 faceoffs this year, but I'm not totally sure if that's his natural position.

 

[Rangers394]

He's listed at both LW and C, and he took 345 faceoffs this year, but I'm not totally sure if that's his natural position.

Might take a trip to the Stars board and ask

 

[Savant]

I really want Cirelli.

Don’t think Tampa is moving him unless they have to. They won’t have to.

If you like Cirelli, maybe a cheaper alternating would be Danault from Montreal. Similar tool kit but Danault is a rental. Rangers liked Danault his draft year. Habs probably hold on but since he is UFA who knows.

 

[GAGLine]

I don’t see why they’d want to trade him. Hintz is a beast.

What if we sent ADA the other way? They could use an offensive RHD. Or maybe they have an interest in Strome, Buch or even Kreider (add on either side as necessary). Maybe they still wouldn't do it, I don't know, but they need to improve offensively. Benn, Seguin and Radulov aren't getting any younger.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Big Hintz fan, I’d love to play ball with Dallas to grab him

 

[Ghost of jas]

If Gorton decides he’s going to move DeAngelo, Vegas remains the team that interests me the most. Still not over missing out on Cody Glass.

 

[DanielBrassard]

What do people think about Roope Hintz as a target for center? Dallas needs offensive help, they have cap space, and we have players we could trade.

He has really good size and would give Kakko a fellow Finn.

Why would the Stars move him if they need offensive help?

 

[Trxjw]

I've always been a big fan of Brodin but I don't think he's the right kind of partner for Trouba. Not to mention he's going to be expensive as hell to acquire and will need a hefty raise in a year. We saw it with Morrisey in Winnipeg: Trouba seems to play his best when has a mobile guy as his partner who can skate or pass the puck out of tough situations.

Unless you can find a guy who has cost control for a couple more years at least, you're probably better off trying to find a guy who might not have reached his full potential but is clearly an NHL defensemen right now. Even if it's Smith, Lindgren, and "that guy" down the left, we're probably still a better defensive group than we were while we tried to fit Staal or Hajek in ton that bottom pairing.

 

[Savant]

If Gorton decides he’s going to move DeAngelo, Vegas remains the team that interests me the most. Still not over missing out on Cody Glass.

Vegas has no cap.

 

[Savant]

I've always been a big fan of Brodin but I don't think he's the right kind of partner for Trouba. Not to mention he's going to be expensive as hell to acquire and will need a hefty raise in a year. We saw it with Morrisey in Winnipeg: Trouba seems to play his best when has a mobile guy as his partner who can skate or pass the puck out of tough situations.

Unless you can find a guy who has cost control for a couple more years at least, you're probably better off trying to find a guy who might not have reached his full potential but is clearly an NHL defensemen right now. Even if it's Smith, Lindgren, and "that guy" down the left, we're probably still a better defensive group than we were while we tried to fit Staal or Hajek in ton that bottom pairing.

I’d take a chance on Brodin. That’s why I want to get him early. See if it works or not before giving him a big raise. Carolina 1st and Georgiev are both pieces that should appeal that have value and that it wouldn’t hurt the Rangers to part with.

I’d rather rent Brodin for a year than either breakup Lindgren and Fox, or give a multi year UFA deal for a similar cap hit to a guy like Joel Edmundson (who I really like, slim pickings in FA). Unless the Rangers shoot the moon for a guy like Lindholm, I’m okay getting Brodin who won’t require expansion draft protection, and the Rangers can get a first hand look at low risk. If it doesn’t work let him walk and keep the cap space.

 

[aufheben]

What if we sent ADA the other way? They could use an offensive RHD. Or maybe they have an interest in Strome, Buch or even Kreider (add on either side as necessary). Maybe they still wouldn't do it, I don't know, but they need to improve offensively. Benn, Seguin and Radulov aren't getting any younger.

They have Klingberg and Heiskanen. I mean I’d be down, but Hintz is one of their most important sources of offense.

 

[GAGLine]

Why would the Stars move him if they need offensive help?

Because they would be trading for a player who provides more offense than Hintz? Maybe they would trade their 1st for help, but they don't have a 2nd or 3rd. They could also sign someone as a free agent, but after Hall, the pickings are pretty slim.

I'm not saying they would do it, though. I really don't know. I'm just putting the idea out there.

 

[GAGLine]

They have Klingberg and Heiskanen. I mean I’d be down, but Hintz is one of their most important sources of offense.

Fair enough. I'm just spitballing, trying to see if there's a way to address our center position.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Remember during the season when there were rumors about a Georgiev-for-Labanc swap? I wonder if that’s something Gorton revisits.

 

[Rangers394]

He's listed at both LW and C, and he took 345 faceoffs this year, but I'm not totally sure if that's his natural position.

According to their board, this is what someone said.

Both. Provably not. He's our only current young guy with potential. That said with our gm
Have any 30+ yr olds that can bring leadership but otherwise nothing else?
Also a high dollar contract is a bonus


What can we offer them?

 

[aufheben]

Fair enough. I'm just spitballing, trying to see if there's a way to address our center position.

This is one of those things you’d have to ask the other team’s fans.

But I’m pretty sure Hintz is playing as their #1C right now so I can probably guess the reaction lol

 

[Trxjw]

I’d take a chance on Brodin. That’s why I want to get him early. See if it works or not before giving him a big raise. Carolina 1st and Georgiev are both pieces that should appeal that have value and that it wouldn’t hurt the Rangers to part with.

I’d rather rent Brodin for a year than either breakup Lindgren and Fox, or give a multi year UFA deal for a similar cap hit to a guy like Joel Edmundson (who I really like, slim pickings in FA). Unless the Rangers shoot the moon for a guy like Lindholm, I’m okay getting Brodin who won’t require expansion draft protection, and the Rangers can get a first hand look at low risk. If it doesn’t work let him walk and keep the cap space.

I think that's a lot to give up for a guy who could walk for nothing in a year regardless of whether or not he fits in. Just knowing his skill set, I think he's best suited to support a guy like Dumba as he has during his resurgence over the last year or so. I think you need a guy who can transition the puck more effectively paired with Trouba, otherwise I expect to see them stuck in their own end quite a bit.

There's no real reason to break up Lindgren and Fox. Keep them together regardless. If you can get the right partner for Trouba, great. Push Smith down to the bottom pairing. If you can't but can add a guy like Dermott, who I mentioned before, then you put him on the bottom pairing and experiment. Play Smith with Trouba but try Dermott there on occasion. Maybe you catch lightning in a bottle, maybe you don't, but at least this way you have some contractual control over the player.