Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XL

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The NHL will sell its soul and integrity in a desperate attempt to have a draft in June. Ridiculous. But I shouldn't expect anything else at this point.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

It’s obvious to me the league believes they can capture whatever success the NFL draft had

Although I doubt that will end up being the case. The rating for this draft will probably be closer to the WNBA draft, which did well because it was literally the only sport thing on

Them nixing player trades also takes a decent chunk of the excitement out of the event.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Has there been any explanation behind the decision to revert back to the old lottery system?

This reeks of Bettman trying to use a crisis to reverse a rule he doesn’t like.

I’m trying not to be too biased but it has absolutely zero grounding in logic. I don’t see how snipping 10 games off the end of the regular season should impact the entire logic of the draft lottery. Especially when that logic has been baked into trade prices for years.

 

[SA16]

Has there been any explanation behind the decision to revert back to the old lottery system?

This reeks of Bettman trying to use a crisis to reverse a rule he doesn’t like.

I’m trying not to be too biased but it has absolutely zero grounding in logic. I don’t see how snipping 10 games off the end of the regular season should impact the entire logic of the draft lottery. Especially when that logic has been baked into trade prices for years.

Yes they are worried about an outcome with likelihood ranging from 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 10,000 which involves a team winning the lottery and cup. Of course doing this would make the lottery far more boring to watch, have less viewership since many teams are out of it, and has no logic at all since you'd think with the season not complete they should flatten out the odds, increase the variance, and allow in more teams. But math isn't exactly the strong suit of most hockey men. It also makes it look rigged since it is a massive boost to DET/OTT. If they want to the draft in June for financial reasons while disagreeing with it I can understand it but the concept of changing the lottery to that format just does not make sense.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

That's ridiculous. We're essentially volunteering (well, perhaps not willingly) to not make the playoffs/make a run for the Cup. The least the NHL could do is give us a chance at getting a top-3 pick.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Maybe going ahead with the draft says a lot more about their feelings on ever finishing the 2020 season than it does their feelings than anything else.

But it's probaly just being short sighted and chasing what they perceive as a ratings win ala NFL like some have said. I dont think there's a master plan here.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Yes they are worried about an outcome with likelihood ranging from 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 10,000 which involves a team winning the lottery and cup. Of course doing this would make the lottery far more boring to watch, have less viewership since many teams are out of it, and has no logic at all since you'd think with the season not complete they should flatten out the odds, increase the variance, and allow in more teams. But math isn't exactly the strong suit of most hockey men. It also makes it look rigged since it is a massive boost to DET/OTT. If they want to the draft in June for financial reasons while disagreeing with it I can understand it but the concept of changing the lottery to that format just does not make sense.

Ha wow hadn’t seen that. Classic NHL logic. That’s not even a good spin angle.

 

[bl02]

That's ridiculous. We're essentially volunteering (well, perhaps not willingly) to not make the playoffs/make a run for the Cup. The least the NHL could do is give us a chance at getting a top-3 pick.

I think the proposed lottery system for this years draft tells me they are gonna expand the playoffs to more than 16 teams. For sure that would mean teams like the Rangers would be in. Heck a team like Montreal may even be in.
They probably are trying to avoid a team like the Rangers or Minnesota or Winnipeg possibly going very far in the playoffs and winning a top 3 pick at the same time.

 

[HonestGabe]

I think the proposed lottery system for this years draft tells me they are gonna expand the playoffs to more than 16 teams. For sure that would mean teams like the Rangers would be in. Heck a team like Montreal may even be in.
They probably are trying to avoid a team like the Rangers or Minnesota or Winnipeg possibly going very far in the playoffs and winning a top 3 pick at the same time.

Not necessarily. The latest rumored proposal has the top 6 teams in each division making the playoffs.

We are 7th in the Metro.

In this bizarro world, we would draft 13th while Buffalo and Montreal make the playoffs and draft 7th/8th.

Ass backwards.

 

[Avery16]

I'm more butthurt by the idea of a draft without player trades

 

[Thirty One]

Not necessarily. The latest rumored proposal has the top 6 teams in each division making the playoffs.

We are 7th in the Metro.

In this bizarro world, we would draft 13th while Buffalo and Montreal make the playoffs and draft 7th/8th.

Ass backwards.

And I think this draft lottery system will take that playoff system off the table.

 

[bl02]

Not necessarily. The latest rumored proposal has the top 6 teams in each division making the playoffs.

We are 7th in the Metro.

In this bizarro world, we would draft 13th while Buffalo and Montreal make the playoffs and draft 7th/8th.

Ass backwards.

WAIT WHAT??? No f***ing way. That is horrible! how would a team in the playoffs get to pick ahead of team not making the playoffs? Teams that don't qualify for playoffs in that draft format should pick 1-7.
Where did you hear/read this?

 

[Thirty One]

I get why they would limit it to a 4 slot jump. But why not still draw 3?

At least this ensures the Devils and Lafreniere isn't a thing.

So theoretically that Arizona pick hits the lottery, who gets it? I think the language of the condition probably says top-3, but that's assuming the lottery winner moves into the top-3.

 

[bl02]

I'm more butthurt by the idea of a draft without player trades

haha you should hear montreal radio today. They are livid and they probably have a right to be. They have a ton of picks and cap space to make some draft picks for player moves and that will probably be off the table now. Plus they have no chance at Lafreniere it seems

 

[Thirty One]

haha you should hear montreal radio today. They are livid and they probably have a right to be. They have a ton of picks and cap space to make some draft picks for player moves and that will probably be off the table now. Plus they have no chance at Lafreniere it seems

This makes it all worth it.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

If the team can get into the top 10 that would be great. We used up all our luck last year winning 2OV

I do find it mildly amusing the league is terrified that a team like the Rangers would win the lottery, and if the season resumes could win the cup

I have a better shot of walking out of my apartment right now and getting hit with a car than that actually happening

 

[Thirty One]

If the team can get into the top 10 that would be great. We used up all our luck last year winning 2OV

I do find it mildly amusing the league is terrified that a team like the Rangers would win the lottery, and if the season resumes could win the cup

I have a better shot of walking out of my apartment right now and getting hit with a car than that actually happening

I think this is my fault, for predicting exactly that to happen.

 

[Avery16]

This makes it all worth it.

We have our own snails to fry

 

[TheBloodyNine]

No decision on draft yet according to Lebrun.

“``We think it’s more important to get the right decision than to get a quick decision,'' NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said via email.”

Makes me think they are second guessing this. The trades alone make it a nightmare, and I doubt very many teams are interested in “re-working” those deals as the league HQ so glibly put it.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

No decision on draft yet according to Lebrun.

“``We think it’s more important to get the right decision than to get a quick decision,'' NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said via email.”

Makes me think they are second guessing this. The trades alone make it a nightmare, and I doubt very many teams are interested in “re-working” those deals as the league HQ so glibly put it.

A mid-season draft is literally the DUMBEST idea in NHL history

 

[Thirty One]

No decision on draft yet according to Lebrun.

“``We think it’s more important to get the right decision than to get a quick decision,'' NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said via email.”

Makes me think they are second guessing this. The trades alone make it a nightmare, and I doubt very many teams are interested in “re-working” those deals as the league HQ so glibly put it.

I don’t think they’re second guessing. I think the league wants it and teams’ hockey operations don’t, and they’re trying to bridge that.

 

[LokiDog]

The league thinks they can somehow gain popularity or have a ratings hit by having the draft now, while everyone is missing sports and has nothing to watch. They’re naive.

Very few people outside of this sort of community can name the top 5 prospects in the NHL draft. Especially without trades, the interest and excitement won’t be there; I wouldn’t be surprised if this draft drew less of an audience than the annual normal draft. In fact, I’d actually bet on it.

There is no benefit to having the draft before the end of the season and no harm in having it after the season. They’re just trying to be clever and the only people they’re going to outsmart are themselves.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I don’t think they’re second guessing. I think the league wants it and teams’ hockey operations don’t, and they’re trying to bridge that.

What I meant by second guessing was second guessing how they originally envisioned it being. If they want to do the draft in June they need to determine what’s happening with the rest of the season first. Pick what teams are going to make the playoffs or aren’t and then determine draft order from there.

 

[Tawnos]

The league thinks they can somehow gain popularity or have a ratings hit by having the draft now, while everyone is missing sports and has nothing to watch. They’re naive.

Very few people outside of this sort of community can name the top 5 prospects in the NHL draft. Especially without trades, the interest and excitement won’t be there; I wouldn’t be surprised if this draft drew less of an audience than the annual normal draft. In fact, I’d actually bet on it.

There is no benefit to having the draft before the end of the season and no harm in having it after the season. They’re just trying to be clever and the only people they’re going to outsmart are themselves.

There are legitimate reasons to do it well before the European hockey seasons start, if they do.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The league thinks they can somehow gain popularity or have a ratings hit by having the draft now, while everyone is missing sports and has nothing to watch. They’re naive.

Very few people outside of this sort of community can name the top 5 prospects in the NHL draft. Especially without trades, the interest and excitement won’t be there; I wouldn’t be surprised if this draft drew less of an audience than the annual normal draft. In fact, I’d actually bet on it.

There is no benefit to having the draft before the end of the season and no harm in having it after the season. They’re just trying to be clever and the only people they’re going to outsmart are themselves.

Yeah. This. The large majority of my hockey friends don't care about the draft. They just check the next morning who we drafted, and then ask me about them haha