Speculation: Roster Building thread: Part XIX (Thanks, Sam)

[GoAwayPanarin]

Was planning on dropping some cash to go see Sam Rosen's last game tonight? Now? f*** this team.

Couple other things:
1. I'm glad that what happened didn't escalate any further past what what we know of happening
2. It is at least theoretically possible, though highly unlikely, that the staffer didn't want this info to go public and the decision was mutual. I consider that highly unlikely though.
3. REALLY hope this was a case of Panarin being a drunken, piece of shit of an idiot, rather than a sober one. Bc if it's the latter, it means the team intentionally kept around someone they knew was a serious risk of this kind of thing and hid that fact.

The former really wouldn't be any better. Hiding behind alcohol to excuse bad behavior is one of my least favorite things ever. If you're an asshole when you're drunk, you're still an asshole.

This seems like a huge nothing honestly. The woman was fired for giving prescription meds to another player, then accused Panarin of “pinning her to a bed” 3 months later, and she got a payout and NDA (standard op in these situations). Team hired a law firm to investigate and shared that with the NHL, who considered the matter closed. Where’s the cover up and what exactly are they covering up?

The fact that there was a payout seems to lend validity to the matter.

Providing meds to a player is grounds for dismissal (I'm sure she was just trying to help, but you can't do that.) No payout necessary there, thats legit termination territory.

False accusations do happen but when they do, they tend to fall apart pretty quickly once facts start being gathered. Perhaps Dolan said "f*** this, I don't want to deal with the distraction" and just wrote a check to make it go away but thats a bit of a stretch. I can't imagine Artemi being okay with that if he were truly innocent. It would have been a story for 3 seconds and then immediately rebuffed if there wasn't hard evidence because thats what tends to happen when shit like this isn't true.

I'm guessing the person had receipts that they didn't want public.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

I wonder why the Post got scooped here. Usually they have this kind of story first.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

When did this organization get so toxic?

Hi, my name is Christopher James Kreider, I enjoy golfing at the local country club and oversized cups of tea in the mornings.

 

[Raspewtin]

I wonder why the Post got scooped here. Usually they have this kind of story first.

Katie Strang has connections and sources the Post could only dream of, and no obligation to be nice to the Rangers org to maintain a relationship.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

the fact that, um, they kept an alleged sexual assault perpetrator on the team with no consequences?

do you think they pay money to anyone that says things? do you think they didn't do a thorough investigation and come to the conclusion there's a serious problem they need to get ahead of?

how naive are you?

I think that, as a lawyer, non disclosure agreements in these situations, where an accusation alone if public can be a guilty verdict in the climate we have, are common and not indicative of liability or guilt. I know nothing about what happened but my initial reaction is I need more information before I make this a huge story. I’m not saying she made it up per se, but the fact that a payout occurred isn’t evidence that anything happened. Some people choose to avoid legal situations or PR with money. How much did they pay her? $5 million? $50,000? Wouldn’t you want to know more before we say he’s a scumbag and needs to gtf off the team, or is the accusation enough for you

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Katie Strang has connections and sources the Post could only dream of.

She’s the lead muckraker in the industry these days .

 

[Machinehead]

Hi, my name is Christopher James Kreider, I enjoy golfing at the local country club and oversized cups of tea in the mornings.

Listen, nobody wants to see your Gary Neville AI art.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Listen, nobody wants to see your Gary Neville AI art.

I'll have you know that took several attempts to make

 

[LokiDog]

My question is actually just:

Which candy ass on this team is “afraid of flying” and doesn’t already have an anti anxiety prescription from a team doctor? Sounds like someone saw her popping a relaxing pill before the flight and said “oh, can I have one?”.

Let’s be so honest… did Bread ever strike any of you as the gentlemanly or gallant type? I promise, most of your heroes are people you don’t actually want to meet. Money and privilege don’t bring out the best in people.

 

[Machinehead]

I'll have you know that took several attempts to make

I just saved you several attempts on the next one.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Why is there no thread about the Panarin thing on this board?????

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I'll have you know that took several attempts to make

The next one, the cup was going to be the size of him!

 

[Machinehead]

My question is actually just:

Which candy ass on this team is “afraid of flying” and doesn’t already have an anti anxiety prescription from a team doctor? Sounds like someone saw her popping a relaxing pill before the flight and said “oh, can I have one?”.

Let’s be so honest… did Bread ever strike any of you as the gentlemanly or gallant type? I promise, most of your heroes are people you don’t actually want to meet. Money and privilege don’t bring out the best in people.

Maybe not gentlemanly and gallant but I didn't have him pegged as a predator. Seemed like a chill guy. I agree with what you're saying about meeting heroes but this was pretty disappointing.

 

[RangerBoy]

Someone leaked the story to Katie Strang. I wonder which party leaked the story. It wasn't the girl because she would lose her settlements. Put them in jeopardy. It wasn't Panarin's side because he is a married man with kids and he looks bad. It wasn't the Rangers. It happened in December 2023. It didn't happen a few months ago. I don't mean to disparage the victim but she sounds like a troubled person.

 

[Machinehead]

The next one, the cup was going to be the size of him!

Ok, if you can actually make the cup that big, I'll allow it.

I kinda wanna see that.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Why is there no thread about the Panarin thing on this board?????

this is the thread

 

[LokiDog]

I told you guys, it's time for armed rebellion.

 

[Overcast]

This is unbelievable if true. The hit parade just keeps on going.

Panarin is a POS if this is all true, but why didn't the staffer report the incident before going to his room to retrieve her phone? He still looks an idiot, & she can still sue at that point, but she would've avoided dealing with having to be physically assaulted.

Before anyone accuses me of victim bashing, I'm NOT doing that. I'm simply asking what if.

I don't think she was going into the situation thinking Panarin had bad intentions. She may have been thinking if she jumped the gun and reported him before anything happened that there would be no evidence of anything occurring (because there wouldn't have been a chance for it to happen) and that she may have been reprimanded or lose access to something in some way for making a "baseless" report. But he put her in such a f***ed up spot by initially stealing her phone, because of how personal most people regard their phones she was probably just thinking "Okay whatever, I'll just go to his room to get my damn phone and be done with this." I'm sure a lot of these guys do weird shit (not necessarily toward team staff) and this could have just been seen as more weird, quirky shit from the weird, quirky Russian superstar.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Someone leaked the story to Katie Strang. I wonder which party leaked the story. It wasn't the girl because she would lose her settlements. Put them in jeopardy. It wasn't Panarin's side because he is a married man with kids and he looks bad. It wasn't the Rangers. It happened in December 2023. It didn't happen a few months ago. I don't mean to disparage the victim but she sounds like a troubled person.

It was Putin

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Maybe not gentlemanly and gallant but I didn't have him pegged as a predator. Seemed like a chill guy. I agree with what you're saying about meeting heroes but this was pretty disappointing.

What in that story do you think makes him a “predator,” honest question

 

[Machinehead]

Why is there no thread about the Panarin thing on this board?????

Maybe we'll do it later. It'll bring over a bunch of dreck from the main boards and I don't wanna smell them.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

Why is there no thread about the Panarin thing on this board?????

To keep lookie-loo Devils fans away.

 

[Machinehead]

What in that story do you think makes him a “predator,” honest question

The part where he sexually assaulted somebody.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Hi, my name is Christopher James Kreider, I enjoy golfing at the local country club and oversized cups of tea in the mornings.

Yeah. Kreider sexually assaulted a woman and fostered the environment in which that would be acceptable behavior.

This is bad taste.... even for you.

 

[cheech70]

Unfortunately, I'm now resigned to believe that this team won't win anything until the fat oaf of an owner croaks.

He said on Brunson podcast team is going to his kids...just like his daddy did to him