Speculation: Roster Building thread: Part XIX (Thanks, Sam)

[Guyute]

What did Gorton say after getting canned?

"Your young players need to play"

 

[Shesterkybomb]

The whole team quit, they were deflated, they need new management and coaching to get back to winning, it won't happen though unless we treat Lafreniere like an important piece, on pp1, possibly on the pk, confidence is his motor. We need to treat Perrault, Othmann, Berard, Robertson as important parts of a winning team, if we aren't better next year it's self inflicted, we have the pieces to be better.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Mika’s like…. really handsome.

Hank is really handsome. Mika is pretty. I’d still take pretty over the dumpster fire that is my face, but pretty and handsome aren’t the same.

 

[TGWL]

Well we will never know where Stutzle would be in his development here if he started in the top six but was yanked as soon as he had a defensive lapse. You saying he would have stayed in the top six is either assuming that they'd have treated Stutzle different or that he would have been WAY more defensively responsible here than he was in OTT... I wouldn't assume either, personally, but who knows.

Yeah I'm not looking to BLAME anyone. It is what it is. I think he had a shit year after a very good start, and I think he likely rebounds next year. There is zero reason he CAN'T... But maybe he WON'T. Either way people have all summer to shit on him. Hahahaha.

He skates way too good. Stutzle creates his own plays. His own O-zone opportunities. Even if the points didn't come, he would have most likely stayed in the top 6 because we have nobody else in the C position that can do that. Chytil certainly wouldn't have pushed him down and I don't think we sign Trocheck to push him down. And I think every coach we had would have put Stutzle on the PP, simply because his ability to create space with his legs. I'm not saying he's going to be that 90 point player, but he would have still be good here because he just skates fantastic and coaches can't really ignore that.

 

[majordomo]

Hank is really handsome. Mika is pretty. I’d still take pretty over the dumpster fire that is my face, but pretty and handsome aren’t the same.

Mika is not pretty either.

 

[GAGLine]

We literally can not trade him. This team can not be a lottery team next year.
If we had our 26 first rounder sure. It actually would have been a smart move getting back some picks and a good prospect.

We have the option of sending this year's pick no matter where it falls, and trading Panarin isn't a guarantee that we'll be a lottery team next year.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

He skates way too good. Stutzle creates his own plays. His own O-zone opportunities. Even if the points didn't come, he would have most likely stayed in the top 6 because we have nobody else in the C position that can do that. Chytil certainly wouldn't have pushed him down and I don't think we sign Trocheck to push him down. And I think every coach we had would have put Stutzle on the PP, simply because his ability to create space with his legs. I'm not saying he's going to be that 90 point player, but he would have still be good here because he just skates fantastic.

Stuzle had his own stumbles but the team stuck with him, giving him lots of minutes and pp1 time, it's the main difference between how the two were developed.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Kakko had a 70 point upside and turned into a 35-45 point third line wing who is solid defensively.

Laf has more like 80-90 point upside an has turned into a 45-60 point second line wing who is lazy as shit.

I guess that's why they call it upside.

That, and also because I want to hit Laf upside the head.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

We have the option of sending this year's pick no matter where it falls, and trading Panarin isn't a guarantee that we'll be a lottery team next year.

I doubt they move on from Panarin, imo he is more likely to get an extension than get traded unless he wants out.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Lafreniere filled in for Kreider this year and the powerplay was 0 for 773.

Is that good?

 

[Levitate]

The whole team quit, they were deflated, they need new management and coaching to get back to winning, it won't happen though unless we treat Lafreniere like an important piece, on pp1, possibly on the pk, confidence is his motor. We need to treat Perrault, Othmann, Berard, Robertson as important parts of a winning team, if we aren't better next year it's self inflicted, we have the pieces to be better.

That they quit from the start of the season after the coaching staff got them to the ECF, and that it was the SECOND time they've done this, is a sign that there's an issue with the players

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Kakko went from a 35 pt a year player to a 50 pt a year with just a change of scenery. Lafreniere would make us look like donkeys if they move him, they need to get this franchise straightened out and get him going again, lots of ice, pp1 time and see where it takes him. You can see it in the players faces, they're all miserable, something needs to change

 

[bhamill]

I don't know, I feel like "yanked because they didn't play defense" is a bit of a meme. This team probably has fewer defensive standards than any team in the league.

Our guys regularly blow coverage like a horn and have no repercussions for it.

I do think we're hard on kids sometimes but what we actually want isn't clear. That's a legitimate problem.

Veterans get away with lapses galore; kids? Not so much. But it's moot, we will never know.

 

[bernmeister]

this

New York Rangers finally recognize Matt Rempe's growth

Over the course of the 2024-25 National Hockey League season, 22-year-old Matt Rempe has shown impressive growth in his skill on the ice.

bluelinestation.com

It's about fuggin time.
way too late
for like past 2 seasons said they should maximize advance this kid

 

[TGWL]

Stuzle had his own stumbles but the team stuck with him, giving him lots of minutes and pp1 time, it's the main difference between how the two were developed.

His stumbles were defensive responsibilities. but I strongly believe our coaches would have given Stutzle a bigger leash and PP 1 time here because of his skating and play-making ability. The argument on how short our leash it for young players, or how we don't develop youth and went with vets, vets, vets is a different argument.

 

[will1066]

My wife asks me 3 times each game what icing is, but she made me get her a Zibadejad jersey.

How do I dislike this?

 

[Bob Richards]

Kakko went from a 35 pt a year player to a 50 pt a year with just a change of scenery. Lafreniere would make us look like donkeys if they move him, they need to get this franchise straightened out and get him going again, lots of ice, pp1 time and see where it takes him. You can see it in the players faces, they're all miserable, something needs to change

FWIW I think Kakko’s scoring rates are basically the same on Seattle. He just gets a shitload more ice time there than he did here. Like…..way more ice time lol.

 

[Alluckks]

I don’t think it is anything random that Brooks was floating Lafreniere in trade proposals mid season. Granted the big one that garnered attention was about Tkachuck, who simply isn’t being traded. But I’d bet there is some legit noise to Lafreniere being available in a hockey deal.

 

[will1066]

MVP of garbage is still garbage

 

[tiggles]

From the end of last year. But I guess one year where the power play sucks whether he's on it or not means he can never be a successful power play player.

 

[will1066]

I get that certain remarks about Mika are rightfully off-limits, but hate from HFNYR WAGs is fully in the realm of being encouraged.

 

[bhamill]

He skates way too good. Stutzle creates his own plays. His own O-zone opportunities. Even if the points didn't come, he would have most likely stayed in the top 6 because we have nobody else in the C position that can do that. Chytil certainly wouldn't have pushed him down and I don't think we sign Trocheck to push him down. And I think every coach we had would have put Stutzle on the PP, simply because his ability to create space with his legs. I'm not saying he's going to be that 90 point player, but he would have still be good here because he just skates fantastic and coaches can't really ignore that.

It's ALL speculation. I disagree that he wouldn't have gotten yanked around, he was even worse defensively, and more one dimensional, than Laf, but I can't present anything more concrete about the might have beens than you can. So here we are, in Agree-toDisagreeVille.

 

[McRanger92]

MVP of garbage is still garbage

Panarin winning the Good Guy media award despite having 0 recorded seconds of him answering questions anywhere was my favorite

 

[will1066]

If they do not elevate the youth and give them more opportunities for bigger roles next season, and i see the same kind of shit that's been ongoing, I am seriously f***ing done as a fan of the NY Rangers

 

[bhamill]

Is that good?

Compared to 0 for 873 WITH Kreider? Still no.