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Speculation: Roster Building thread: Part XIX (Thanks, Sam)

duhmetreE said:
I have no problem trading it for a Tkachuk or Power.... but he made it seem like we're just handing it over to Pittsburgh
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That is a possibility....Drury could decide that next year's first is more valuable.

I don't pretend to know the reason or what could make him decide to do it.
 
majordomo said:
I don't know.......logically we should....then again, NO ONE has every accused Drury of being logical.
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Come on, man. You know the answer. No GM is that stupid. If we get 1st overall, we are 100% keeping it.

The 4th overall pick, in theory, is less valuable, but we only have to go back to 2020 to find a 4th overall player who has turned out better (thus far) than the 1st overall player.

Even if there is a drop off, it's not significant enough to give up the pick. The odds that we will get a better player next year are remote.

There may be a spot between 1 and 13 in which Drury would give up the pick, but it's not 4. He bargained for a top 13 protection for a reason.
 
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GAGLine said:
Come on, man. You know the answer. No GM is that stupid. If we get 1st overall, we are 100% keeping it.

The 4th overall pick, in theory, is less valuable, but we only have to go back to 2020 to find a 4th overall player who has turned out better (thus far) than the 1st overall player.

Even if there is a drop off, it's not significant enough to give up the pick. The odds that we will get a better player next year are remote.

There may be a spot between 1 and 13 in which Drury would give up the pick, but it's not 4. He bargained for a top 13 protection for a reason.
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You overestimate the intelligence of NHL GMs.

As I said above, I'm not making a statement of fact or trying to prove a point; nor did I do any research. I merely stated an opinion based on a gut feeling. It's not like GMs haven't done stupid things (have we forgotten that guy in Montreal?).
 
CTRanger said:
We need to notify Pitt 48 hrs prior to the draft this year if we are keeping or surrendering our 1st Rd pick. Top 13 protected. The top of the draft is strong but the depth is considered weak. Clear top 4, then a clear drop. Then another maybe 6-8 with another clear drop. This draft becomes a total crapshoot after that. IMO we should send this pick to Pitt if it’s not top 11.
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The top of the draft isn’t considered strong, and the depth isn’t either. This is one of the weakest drafts since I started keeping an eye on the draft. The only 2 guys I think are definitely going to be difference makers at the NHL level (Schaefer and Misa) are gonna go 1 & 2. This is not a draft worth fighting to keep a pick worse than top 4 in
 
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eco's bones said:
The thing about that though is if next year this team is playoff bound or on the cusp of being a playoff team it's pretty likely we'll trade that 2025 1st rounder for some veteran help before the deadline and it might be for a rental.
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Think you meant ‘26 first. I agree that is a possibility. I also think next year you can get a similar player at 20-25 as you can this year at 10-15. And I’m not convinced this team is a top 10 team next year unless Drury can make some pretty dramatic trades this summer. I’d rather take my chance next year. If somehow we are a lottery team again next year not giving up this years pick is a disaster. I think we cut our losses this draft personally.
 
majordomo said:
You overestimate the intelligence of NHL GMs.

As I said above, I'm not making a statement of fact or trying to prove a point; nor did I do any research. I merely stated an opinion based on a gut feeling. It's not like GMs haven't done stupid things (have we forgotten that guy in Montreal?).
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You're intentionally out on a limb here, but it makes entirely no sense. We're not giving away a top 5 pick just because you have a feeling. Maybe we trade it, but we're not handing it to Pittsburgh just because next year might be worse.
 
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Boris Zubov said:
You're intentionally out on a limb here, but it makes entirely no sense. We're not giving away a top 5 pick just because you have a feeling. Maybe we trade it, but we're not handing it to Pittsburgh just because next year might be worse.
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I'm not attempting to make sense and I'm not saying it's going to happen and I have no backup facts to prove or disprove anything. All I'm saying is that it's a feeling I have nothing more.
 
Maybe if the Rangers make the playoffs they simply decline to field a team, for Drury to demonstrate to the players his seriousness. How could we know what Drury will do? Maybe Dolan sells the team tomorrow, or moves it to Alberta!
 
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majordomo said:
Not in the least....you're reacting as if I'm stating facts....I'm not.
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No, I'm suggesting you are stating an opinion that has no basis in reality.

You're welcome to hold that opinion, just as the rest of us are welcome to call you crazy for espousing that opinion.

Boo Nieves has a better chance of being a 1C than Drury giving up the 1st overall pick.
 
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GAGLine said:
No, I'm suggesting you are stating an opinion that has no basis in reality.
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This is EXACTLY what I've said from the start -- If you look at my posts, I have stated from the beginning that it was not a fact but just a gut feeling and that I had no basis for it.
 
GAGLine said:
No, you're just being obtuse. No GM has ever intentionally done what you are suggesting.
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Obviously time for some solitary confinement

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