Speculation: Roster Building thread: Part XIX (Thanks, Sam)

People are wanting to run Mika out of town and bring in the younger version of Mika to replace him in Zegras lmao


I like Zegras and would take him on my team, but people would complain about him almost immediately

No one would have a problem with Mika if he was 25 and being paid 5mil a year. The immovable contract and NMC are really the issue with Zibanejad.
 
And Im hoping the Rangers bring in Joel Quenneville. He has paid his dues and the record speaks for itself. He career resume screams top 2 or 3 HC in the entire NHL.


The window for a lot of their vet stars is closing and we cant mess around.....bring in the proven HC...

Its clear that Lavy couldn't get the most out of them this year.

This lineup under Quenn in theory should be awfully good....

Panarin-Trocheck-Othmann
Lafreniere-JT-Perreault
Kreider-Zibanejad-Cuylle
Berard-Carrick-Brodzinski

Soucy-Fox
KAM-Borgen
Vaakanainen-Schneider

Igor
Quick
 
This is f***ing infuriating. What in God's name does this coaching staff see in Urho f***ing Vaakaloser that Jones can't do? I just don't f***ing get it. Vaak is a HORRENDOUS defender. The guy couldn't even get top 4 time on a a bottom feeding Anaheim Team
Personally I think Vaak is better than Jones, but both would be legit 7th Dmen on my team. Before the 4 Nations tourney, Vaak was playing pretty well. Afterwards, he came back and his play was terrible. After he sat out for a few games, he started playing pretty well again. He seems like he continually needs to be motivated, and I’m not sure why it was necessary to double his salary for next year.
 
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I think the Rangers adds this summer are going to be of the "young player who needs a change of scenery" variety. The Ducks have been tied to the Rangers for awhile now. Zegras is obvious as a local guy. I think he can find his potential in NY. McTavish is another guy but probably not someone the Ducks would deal lightly. Would they be a match for Panarin? He can reunite with some ex-teammates including his caddy Stromer. Panarin for Zegras or McTavish and a pick? Maybe we can pry the kid Mintyukov from them? The Mighty Ducks actually have some pieces and the West isnt deep.

The other guy I was thinking about recently was Cam York. Has the relationship soured completely in Philly? He's a pending RFA. Rough year this year and his rift with Torts broke the camels back. We need puck moving defenseman. Kreider for York and a pick? Kreider can reunite with his high school linemate Garnet Hathaway. York can play with Fox or Borgen but at least we'd have some youth and potential in our top 4.
I have a feeling a week ago Philly would have been on CKs no trade list. That could conceivably change this summer.
 
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Not entirely his fault, but yeah. He's not as skilled with the puck as it appeared he was in the flashes we saw. he also cant get the play out of his own zone. Not ideal for a pipsqueak like him. In all likelihood he will be the 6/7 next year.

He's a good skater but not particularly good at anything else.
 
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I have a feeling a week ago Philly would have been on CKs no trade list. That could conceivably change this summer.

Wouldnt have to go very far geographically, connections to some current flyers. Philly probably wants to take the next step and could use a veteran scorer to take the pressure off Michkov. And Chris can stick it t the evil Rangers for asking him to play harder. Makes sense to me.
 
That tying goal was completely lucky. But, hard working teams get lucky. I wouldn't know about that watching our team.

They beat the Panthers the last 2 times they played them, if you watch Montreal a bit you'll see the work ethic bleed through the TV. Montreal has always been able to do more with less, starts from the top down, working hard is expected not asked for.
 
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Not entirely his fault, but yeah. He's not as skilled with the puck as it appeared he was in the flashes we saw. he also cant get the play out of his own zone. Not ideal for a pipsqueak like him. In all likelihood he will be the 6/7 next year.

Imo they should have traded him at the deadline, I dont see that he has a future here and we have lots of 7th d kicking around.
 
People are wanting to run Mika out of town and bring in the younger version of Mika to replace him in Zegras lmao


I like Zegras and would take him on my team, but people would complain about him almost immediately

Zegras is a work in progress, he could be the next Zherdev or the next Hughes, book is still out on him, not sure how I'd feel about giving up big assets for him. Personally I don't think you can win a cup with a small top line center, they kinda disappear in the playoffs.
 
I do see why the comparison comes up because it's based on the silly things people complain about, and it's absolutely correct that Zegras would get the same heat from the people who hate Mika, but Zegras and Zibanejad aren't similar at all.

If anything he's another Lafreniere -- a good finisher at even strength and literally not good at bloody anything besides that.
 
Lesch tenure w NYR at risk ...
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Groulx needs 15 more NHL GP so his Group 6 is certain
I really hope they keep Groulx somehow. He's been great addition to HFD. I don't think anyone out there views him as a 3rd liner for next season, so if he's going to be in the minors next season anyway he might as well stay where he's a good fit.
 
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Also, Zegras is CINO City. He's playing nothing but wing in the NHL.

Even if you got rid of Kreider AND Panarin, you want Perreault in your top six, you want Cuylle in your top 9, you want Berard and Othmann to have reasonable paths to the top 9, and you're probably stuck with Lafreniere.

Every remaining prospect worth a damn when Perreault graduates is definitely or probably a winger.

Where are we putting another winger?

Maybe you look upgrade that spot but give the kids we already have for free a look first, and then if you want to, get an actual guaranteed upgrade instead of taking a flier on a position of glut.
 
After last night's games, Montreal controls their own destiny. Columbus has a game in hand and can tie them on points, but Montreal holds the tiebreaker.

We control our own destiny over Detroit and the Islanders. We need to outpace Montreal by 2 points over the final 8 games to pass them. If Columbus loses their game in hand, we just need to match them on points over the final 8 games. Otherwise, we'll have to outpace them by 2 points as well.

We still have a legit shot at making the playoffs, but it will be a lot harder if we don't win tonight.

Looking at the standing in terms of us getting a better pick, both Utah and Anaheim won last night. That's good for us. Utah is 3 points ahead of us (we have a game in hand) and Anaheim is 3 points behind us. If we lose tonight, Utah probably stays ahead of us and Anaheim will have a better chance to pass us. It would also give Detroit and the Islanders a chance to close the gap on us.

We are currently in the 12th spot. If we are going to miss the playoffs, we need at least one of Detroit, Anaheim and the Islanders to pass us in order to have a shot at #1 overall.

If we don't make the playoffs, it looks like our pick will end up somewhere between 9th and 14th, pre-lottery. Neither Vancouver nor Calgary has much of a chance of making the playoffs in the west, but both are far enough ahead of us that we likely won't catch them. If we do catch them, it probably means we made the playoffs and would thus get the 17th pick (or worse).

I don't really know which outcome I would prefer. I guess making the playoffs, though I think our chances of winning the lottery are better than our chances of winning the cup. The worst-case scenario, for me, is finishing in the 14th spot and not winning the lottery.
 
After last night's games, Montreal controls their own destiny. Columbus has a game in hand and can tie them on points, but Montreal holds the tiebreaker.

We control our own destiny over Detroit and the Islanders. We need to outpace Montreal by 2 points over the final 8 games to pass them. If Columbus loses their game in hand, we just need to match them on points over the final 8 games. Otherwise, we'll have to outpace them by 2 points as well.

We still have a legit shot at making the playoffs, but it will be a lot harder if we don't win tonight.

Looking at the standing in terms of us getting a better pick, both Utah and Anaheim won last night. That's good for us. Utah is 3 points ahead of us (we have a game in hand) and Anaheim is 3 points behind us. If we lose tonight, Utah probably stays ahead of us and Anaheim will have a better chance to pass us. It would also give Detroit and the Islanders a chance to close the gap on us.

We are currently in the 12th spot. If we are going to miss the playoffs, we need at least one of Detroit, Anaheim and the Islanders to pass us in order to have a shot at #1 overall.

If we don't make the playoffs, it looks like our pick will end up somewhere between 9th and 14th, pre-lottery. Neither Vancouver nor Calgary has much of a chance of making the playoffs in the west, but both are far enough ahead of us that we likely won't catch them. If we do catch them, it probably means we made the playoffs and would thus get the 17th pick (or worse).

I don't really know which outcome I would prefer. I guess making the playoffs, though I think our chances of winning the lottery are better than our chances of winning the cup. The worst-case scenario, for me, is finishing in the 14th spot and not winning the lottery.
If they finish in the 14th spot, the pick automatically goes to Pittsburgh.
 
This is f***ing infuriating. What in God's name does this coaching staff see in Urho f***ing Vaakaloser that Jones can't do? I just don't f***ing get it. Vaak is a HORRENDOUS defender. The guy couldn't even get top 4 time on a a bottom feeding Anaheim Team

Guy is so bad
Vaaks is fine as a 6/7. At his best, he's a "barely notice him out there" vanilla D. You just absolutely need 6 better options than him.

Jones has some ceiling, and while he has some puck movement to his game, it comes along with some gaffes. So he is going to be more noticeable for both better and worse. I don't mind going with both as a combo 6/7. Give Jones a chance to take the 6-spot by the horns.
 
Best case we reload in the offseason after moving on from Kreider but how many impact players are even available to sign that would move the needle.

Marner is redundant with Panarin and Perrault. We need Laf to step up and at least one more elite top 6 forward and bottom 6 depth.
We're getting way ahead of ourselves here. Panarin has 1 year left. I think you can make a good argument that Marner isn't the player we need right now, but I don't think you can say he's redundant with Perrault here.
 
If they finish in the 14th spot, the pick automatically goes to Pittsburgh.
If we finish in 14th and don't win the lottery, the pick automatically goes to Pittsburgh. If we finish in 14th and move up to 4th, we will obviously keep the pick and give them next year's unprotected 1st.
 
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