Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Ruggs225]

If im making a trade with Nashville, im going after Skjei. We need defense and his contract is not too long.

 

[Machinehead]

Go find the next Sam Bennett.

It's Will Cuylle. He just doesn't play center and we're going to have to get over it.

 

[Raspewtin]

If im making a trade with Nashville, im going after Skjei. We need defense and his contract is not too long.

Skjei sucks ass

 

[McRanger92]

Trading for an over the hill Stamkos would be some Dark Ages shit.

So was trading for a 39 year old MSL in 2014, but that worked out.

 

[Ruggs225]

Skjei sucks ass

He is better than 5 of our current dcore.

Can log big minutes, can skate and make a pass. He is an upgrade for us. And term isnt horrible.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

If Nashville was paying us to take Stamkos than sure

But he’s cooked, anyone that watches Nashville will tell you giving that deal was horrendous

 

[cheech70]

I asked Grok about LD for NYR







Here are some left defensemen in the NHL who could potentially be available for trade to the New York Rangers:

1. Ivan Provorov from the Columbus Blue Jackets - Provorov is a left-handed defenseman with a $4.73 million cap hit for one more year. His name has been mentioned in trade discussions, with the Blue Jackets having cap space to retain salary if needed.
   
   
2. Mike Matheson from the Montreal Canadiens - While not explicitly mentioned as available, Matheson could be an intriguing target for the Rangers. He's a strong offensive defenseman with a cap hit of $4.875 million through the 2025-26 season. However, there might be some reluctance from Montreal's management to deal with the Rangers given past relationships.
   
   
3. Marcus Pettersson from the Pittsburgh Penguins - Pettersson is another left-handed defenseman who has been discussed as a potential trade piece. He's known for his defensive play and could fit into the Rangers' top four. His cap hit is $4.025 million until the 2025-26 season.
   
   
4. Jeremy Lauzon from the Ottawa Senators - Lauzon has been mentioned as a potential addition for teams looking for size on the back end. He's a left-handed shot with a very team-friendly cap charge of $2 million through the next season.
   
   

Keep in mind that these players' availability can change rapidly based on team performance, injuries, and strategic shifts by their respective teams. Also, trade discussions can be complex, involving many factors such as salary cap considerations, prospect packages, and draft picks. The information provided here reflects what's been discussed or speculated upon in recent reports and social media posts.

 

[McRanger92]

If Nashville was paying us to take Stamkos than sure

But he’s cooked, anyone that watches Nashville will tell you giving that deal was horrendous

The 4th year really is a killer. I think he's better than this and not completely washed but 4 years is a long time for a 34 year old.

All the more reason to trade Kreider (33 with 2 years remaining) and Trocheck (32 next year with 4 years left). Father time is undefeated and this guys already are looking like they are running out of steam.

 

[GAGLine]

Trading for an over the hill Stamkos would be some Dark Ages shit.

I would do it if it got us out of the Mika contract, but otherwise, no.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

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Tomorrow’s NY Post headline:

Dolan fires Drury, hires ChatGpt!

 

[McRanger92]

I asked Grok about LD for NYR







Here are some left defensemen in the NHL who could potentially be available for trade to the New York Rangers:

1. Ivan Provorov from the Columbus Blue Jackets - Provorov is a left-handed defenseman with a $4.73 million cap hit for one more year. His name has been mentioned in trade discussions, with the Blue Jackets having cap space to retain salary if needed.
   
   
2. Mike Matheson from the Montreal Canadiens - While not explicitly mentioned as available, Matheson could be an intriguing target for the Rangers. He's a strong offensive defenseman with a cap hit of $4.875 million through the 2025-26 season. However, there might be some reluctance from Montreal's management to deal with the Rangers given past relationships.
   
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3. Marcus Pettersson from the Pittsburgh Penguins - Pettersson is another left-handed defenseman who has been discussed as a potential trade piece. He's known for his defensive play and could fit into the Rangers' top four. His cap hit is $4.025 million until the 2025-26 season.
   
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4. Jeremy Lauzon from the Ottawa Senators - Lauzon has been mentioned as a potential addition for teams looking for size on the back end. He's a left-handed shot with a very team-friendly cap charge of $2 million through the next season.
   
   View attachment 946132

Keep in mind that these players' availability can change rapidly based on team performance, injuries, and strategic shifts by their respective teams. Also, trade discussions can be complex, involving many factors such as salary cap considerations, prospect packages, and draft picks. The information provided here reflects what's been discussed or speculated upon in recent reports and social media posts.

I like M. Pettersson as a partner for Fox.

 

[Machinehead]

The 4th year really is a killer. I think he's better than this and not completely washed but 4 years is a long time for a 34 year old.

All the more reason to trade Kreider (33 with 2 years remaining) and Trocheck (32 next year with 4 years left). Father time is undefeated and this guys already are looking like they are running out of steam.

It amazes me that almost immediately after Gorton's rebuild, we were one of the oldest teams in the league. It's almost impressive that they pulled that off.

 

[bernmeister]

I think you better prepare yourself for finding a new favorite player because I think Chris's days are numbered. He's one of the easiest players for us to move to a playoff bound team. I don't think he's going to end up being a career Rangers player. It is mystifying however how you're always ready to trade every other veteran player on the team that makes a sizable amount of cap $'s but make him the exception. The NHL is a very competitive league and players do have years when things don't go right for them but also players reach a point where decline sets in and it can happen rather rapidly for any player once he's in his 30's. If we're retooling and going younger he and Zibanejad IMO are more in the way than even Panarin and Trocheck. Panarin can carry the offense still and Trocheck does more of the little things that don't always get enough appreciation. Just saying and do prepare yourself. I do think Chris will be on the way out soon.

The Rs should move all vets we are selling first
re-assess
and only then see if CK is worth moving
status of his back is a factor
if it drives down price, silly to not hold and hope it can repair short term

just unloading him for whatever is bad GMing

Bern CK is supposed to be a leader out there, not a follower. If he's not part of the solution right now, he's part of the problem. Lead by example as a vet. He's not doing that.

Mere fact he is playing thru pain and not IR/LTIR shows he is trying,
And beyond effort, he cannot single handedly overcome Mika pulling down the others.

Let's be fair/objective.

If the Rangers are trying to make Mika uncomfortable, giving him a 150 second shift any time we're down a goal doesn't feel like it.

NO. way too generous. Sit his sorry ass immediately.
It is justified by abysmal performance

then deal like I said
retained
to van
for
Raty, Juulsen, Forbot + cap dump Descharnais
DO IT NOW

You are truly insane

Laugh all you like
he who laughs last laughs best
also
in hindsight, my track record PROVES I have been right after the fact about most of the shit for years.
What you got?
bupkis

Dolan called Drury his Brian Cashman so he is staying. My big concern is what are the expectations for this year? Does Drury think he can pull off a St Louis? Worst to First? I hope not!!! WE need to remove core and maximize return.

Trade Bait Level 1..Kaako,Lindgren,Kreider,Smith,Vesey,Carrick
Trade Bait Level 2..Miller,Fox,Igor.
Trade Bait Off Season...Mika, Bread

Trading Level 1 adds lots of cap space...then need to decide how to spend it

we are 99% retaining on bread to facilitate deal
longer his term the better hus value > our return
deal him now if he wants off sinking ship and will go sooner than later

Mika, no I want that bastard gone yesterday, I will settle for NOW not off season

If he does go onto have a nice career, it's not going to here.

Three years ago, he could have highlighted a package for a legit 1C. When they deal him this season, he brings back another Kaapo Kakko that plays a different position.

It was terrible asset management.

Dealing KK at reduced value now would also throw gas on the fire and be even worse asset mgmt

Play laf or cuylle at center than. They can do it.

Acquire Raty as discussed, also Rempe here = 4th line C option = more pivot depth higher in the lineup
But giving KK time there, even as a stopgap, is worthwhile.

Trading for an over the hill Stamkos would be some Dark Ages shit.

Marcel Dionne level of too past its prime for younger assets
fatally bad w/cap

Skjei sucks ass

At this pt just sucks. Next level sucking ass on the horizon

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

The Rs should move all vets we are selling first
re-assess
and only then see if CK is worth moving
status of his back is a factor
if it drives down price, silly to not hold and hope it can repair short term

just unloading him for whatever is bad GMing



Mere fact he is playing thru pain and not IR/LTIR shows he is trying,
And beyond effort, he cannot single handedly overcome Mika pulling down the others.

Let's be fair/objective.


NO. way too generous. Sit his sorry ass immediately.
It is justified by abysmal performance

then deal like I said
retained
to van
for
Raty, Juulsen, Forbot + cap dump Descharnais
DO IT NOW



Laugh all you like
he who laughs last laughs best
also
in hindsight, my track record PROVES I have been right after the fact about most of the shit for years.
What you got?
bupkis



we are 99% retaining on bread to facilitate deal
longer his term the better hus value > our return
deal him now if he wants off sinking ship and will go sooner than later

Mika, no I want that bastard gone yesterday, I will settle for NOW not off season




Dealing KK at reduced value now would also throw gas on the fire and be even worse asset mgmt


Acquire Raty as discussed, also Rempe here = 4th line C option = more pivot depth higher in the lineup
But giving KK time there, even as a stopgap, is worthwhile.



Marcel Dionne level of too past its prime for younger assets
fatally bad w/cap



At this pt just sucks. Next level sucking ass on the horizon

As to the CK comment, I would prefer he go on IR if that’s what he needed to get right. He is a drag on the ice. Criticism and demanding accountability from a veteran leader is justified.

 

[bernmeister]

I like M. Pettersson as a partner for Fox.

I like better we do Fox + our next later 2nd
for
Kleven, Pinto, Grieg and an even later Sens 1st

It amazes me that almost immediately after Gorton's rebuild, we were one of the oldest teams in the league. It's almost impressive that they pulled that off.

Yes.
And while we are on the subject, who warned us about holding on to vets too long?

 

[mrmovies779]

Petterson next to Fox would be great...I just don't want to trade with those f***ers at all

 

[NYR Viper]

I’m still looking squarely at Alexandre Carrier and Tommy Novak. Both guys are underachieving and could be a boost to the team. Smith played with Marchessault in Florida and Vegas. Trotz may value bringing him in to see if they can spark their old chemistry and he gets some maneuverability moving forward.

Lindgren + Smith for Carrier + Novak

Petterson next to Fox would be great...I just don't want to trade with those f***ers at all

What does he want on his next contract? $5m? $5.5m?

I still think Provorov is the guy. He plays a gambling style of game but the Rangers just signed Igor to help cover that stuff up.

 

[Machinehead]

As to the CK comment, I would prefer he go on IR if that’s what he needed to get right. He is a drag on the ice. Criticism and demanding accountability from a veteran leader is justified.

Kreider revealed he has back spasms. That doesn't seem like something that just goes away, especially as quick as he went back in.

That's not absolve Kreider, and maybe he's cooked anyway, but I don't get it.

The smart teams around the league take advantage of these situations. They get the guy a bunch of rest and get cap space. It's a win-win. We seem to always rush guys back as quickly as possible.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Missed last night's game in favor of family time.

Playing Zibanejad less than any other game in his Rangers tenure. Good.

Bench Kakko even though he's been one of the few players playing well? BRILLIANT!

Assholes. Fire the lot.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The interesting subplot to me with Kreider is it appears as though something is up with him. He had a response right after Trouba got traded saying he had thoughts but didn’t want to share them at the time.

At the moment I thought maybe he was upset at the way Trouba quit on the team as the leader. But now I’m wondering if he may have supported him and didn’t agree with the way Trouba and other leadership has been tossed to the side after all they’ve done.

Either way, something is up.

 

[mrmovies779]

I’m still looking squarely at Alexandre Carrier and Tommy Novak. Both guys are underachieving and could be a boost to the team. Smith played with Marchessault in Florida and Vegas. Trotz may value bringing him in to see if they can spark their old chemistry and he gets some maneuverability moving forward.

Lindgren + Smith for Carrier + Novak



What does he want on his next contract? $5m? $5.5m?

I still think Provorov is the guy. He plays a gambling style of game but the Rangers just signed Igor to help cover that stuff up.

I would rather Petterson personally.he plays a more reliable and steady game.Provorov is the better talent,but I'm not sure a high risk gambler is what this d core needs right now.

 

[bernmeister]

As to the CK comment, I would prefer he go on IR if that’s what he needed to get right. He is a drag on the ice. Criticism and demanding accountability from a veteran leader is justified.

Demanding accountability is always appropriate
Criticism must be fair. No ordinary player can single handedly overcome his teammates
It was only last yrs POs that a healthy Kreider had a hat trick and willed our advance

Now throwing him under the bus is inappropriate b'c of others.
Should he answer for his own level of decline? Yes.
But we can't piggy back the entire situation involving others on him

 

[Machinehead]

The interesting subplot to me with Kreider is it appears as though something is up with him. He had a response right after Trouba got traded saying he had thoughts but didn’t want to share them at the time.

At the moment I thought maybe he was upset at the way Trouba quit on the team as the leader. But now I’m wondering if he may have supported him and didn’t agree with the way Trouba and other leadership has been tossed to the side after all they’ve done.

Either way, something is up.

I wonder if something is up with the way this team manages health. Firing Ramsay out of the blue remains super weird.

 

[I Eat Crow]

I asked Grok about LD for NYR







Here are some left defensemen in the NHL who could potentially be available for trade to the New York Rangers:

1. Ivan Provorov from the Columbus Blue Jackets - Provorov is a left-handed defenseman with a $4.73 million cap hit for one more year. His name has been mentioned in trade discussions, with the Blue Jackets having cap space to retain salary if needed.
   
   
2. Mike Matheson from the Montreal Canadiens - While not explicitly mentioned as available, Matheson could be an intriguing target for the Rangers. He's a strong offensive defenseman with a cap hit of $4.875 million through the 2025-26 season. However, there might be some reluctance from Montreal's management to deal with the Rangers given past relationships.
   
   View attachment 946131
3. Marcus Pettersson from the Pittsburgh Penguins - Pettersson is another left-handed defenseman who has been discussed as a potential trade piece. He's known for his defensive play and could fit into the Rangers' top four. His cap hit is $4.025 million until the 2025-26 season.
   
   View attachment 946130
4. Jeremy Lauzon from the Ottawa Senators - Lauzon has been mentioned as a potential addition for teams looking for size on the back end. He's a left-handed shot with a very team-friendly cap charge of $2 million through the next season.
   
   View attachment 946132

Keep in mind that these players' availability can change rapidly based on team performance, injuries, and strategic shifts by their respective teams. Also, trade discussions can be complex, involving many factors such as salary cap considerations, prospect packages, and draft picks. The information provided here reflects what's been discussed or speculated upon in recent reports and social media posts.

The first three are objectively good hockey players. My concern is that they're all going to be due raises on expiring deals in the next couple of years.

 

[will1066]

Frankly I'm surprised Kakko's agent hasn't come out and said his client seeks a trade. Maybe after the 4 Nations.