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Also I think Drury is Dolans guy. He'll probably be here for the foreseeable future.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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drury standing up to these pampered vets makes me want to give him a shot at fixing this shit
Here’s a kid going through puberty giving his take on the Rangers:
Machinehead
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I see both sides of it. Drury has doubled down on some stupid shit and if he doesn't agree with how the vets are treated, at best, he's let it happen.
At the same time, it's impossible to view his tenure without viewing it through the lens of the shitshow that came before him.
Really, all that came of the letter-era picks and moves is Lafreniere, and literally a first grader would have known enough to make that pick.
McRanger92
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He doesn’t skate well enough to be impactful
Well gotta disagree there. Out of that letter NYR got Chytil. Cuylle, Schneider, Jones. Edstrom, & Berard. While you might not be impressed by all of them and all aren't top players, they're contributing and Berard & Edstrom is still carving his way. Plus they made the Barron pick even tho Dru moved on.
And yet somehow he’s really good in transition defense and his line typically does well in controlling the puck on offense.
Sometimes guys outperform their liabilities.
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I can also - I think criticism of Drury is fair. This is a tough league. He's brought in multiple coaches who haven't worked out, which is at least partly on him. He deserves some accountability. The degree to which this group of vets is just plain toxic is also stunning to me, and he didn't bring all of them in. That said - he did extend Mika. So long story short, totally agree. Plenty of blame on him and plenty of blame on the regime before he came in.
Ok, like I said underwhelming... But trading a contributor who is on pace for 40 points for a guy who is at best a 6 d, struggling to stay in the lineup on Buffalo making over 3 mil for next season is just giving up something of value for a player that could probably be had for the rights to Karl Henrikson
Dolan called Drury his Brian Cashman so he is staying. My big concern is what are the expectations for this year? Does Drury think he can pull off a St Louis? Worst to First? I hope not!!! WE need to remove core and maximize return.
Trade Bait Level 1..Kaako,Lindgren,Kreider,Smith,Vesey,Carrick
Trade Bait Level 2..Miller,Fox,Igor.
Trade Bait Off Season...Mika, Bread
Trading Level 1 adds lots of cap space...then need to decide how to spend it
Trade Bait Level 1..Kaako,Lindgren,Kreider,Smith,Vesey,Carrick
Trade Bait Level 2..Miller,Fox,Igor.
Trade Bait Off Season...Mika, Bread
Trading Level 1 adds lots of cap space...then need to decide how to spend it
Machinehead
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You can't launch a rebuild on a group of players whose best piece is Will Cuylle.
They signed their top wing, they got their top D by accident, and they never got a top center. It was a failed rebuild.
He was handed a bad situation, but he continued to try and augment it instead of aggressively pursuing changes. Now it's apparent that he has to make changes and the team is older, more expensive, and less valuable.
Just to name one example, they should have pulled the trigger on moving Kakko for a legit piece. They sat on their hands and Kakko's value has only gone down.
Brutananadilewski
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Honestly, the only way I see the Rangers off-loading Mika is in a package and retaining on salary.
But Drury sucks at trades, so expect to only save about $250,000-500,000 a season.
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Agree on all fronts except on Kakko who I still think will be a valuable player in this league. I get the frustration but I think he'll go on to have a nice career. I also expect him to get dealt any time now.
NYRFAN218
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I've got no clue what they do at this point. Firing the coach is an easy one but I wouldn't even give the players that. They made their bed now they sleep in it. I guess it comes down to whether Drury is on the hot seat or not. If he isn't, I'd let this ride out and just dump the pending UFA's for draft capital at the deadline then make your big trades in the offseason unless you get blown away for something. Lindgren can get you a 2nd or 3rd, Smith a 2nd or 3rd, Vesey maybe a 4th or 5th. Might not seem like much but for a team that's punted a ton of assets the past few deadlines, that would go a long way to replenishing things while letting guys like Othmann, Berard, Mancini, Jones, etc get legit NHL ice time. I've reached the point where I'm acknowledging nothing is coming out of the season. Maybe they make the playoffs but realistically they're not winning the Cup which was really the only acceptable outcome for this group. Adding to this at the deadline would be stupid so take the step back, let everything play out as bad as it may be, and reshape the roster when you're able to.
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Dont get bogged down in the details. The Rangers should trade Kakko if they arent going to use him in the top 6, for a defenseman that can help stabilize that clusterf***.
Machinehead
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If he does go onto have a nice career, it's not going to here.
Three years ago, he could have highlighted a package for a legit 1C. When they deal him this season, he brings back another Kaapo Kakko that plays a different position.
It was terrible asset management.
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From a league-wide optics POV, if Drury and/or the coaching staff is let go, you can pretty much rest assured that these uncoachable/unmanageable players have won and that all but the most desperate clubs will not touch these players with a 10 foot pole.
McRanger92
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Preds/Rangers Tuesday. I want Stamkos. He'd look great between Laf and Cuylle.
Panarin-Chytil-Berard
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If Drury wants to cement over the cracks in the locker room he needs to extract and replace. Kreider and/or Trocheck are at least somewhat tradeable now and the Rangers have a ton of cap space to take on salary. Stamkos/JT Miller/Dylan Cozens, all strike me as acquirable top 6 guys with term on their deal. The team is not rebuilding and far from a lost cause for the season. Drury just has to man up instead of putting bandaids on.
Panarin-Chytil-Berard
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If Drury wants to cement over the cracks in the locker room he needs to extract and replace. Kreider and/or Trocheck are at least somewhat tradeable now and the Rangers have a ton of cap space to take on salary. Stamkos/JT Miller/Dylan Cozens, all strike me as acquirable top 6 guys with term on their deal. The team is not rebuilding and far from a lost cause for the season. Drury just has to man up instead of putting bandaids on.
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Brutananadilewski
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He's the one who thought Z was the #1, he could've flipped him, and if he really believed in Z maybe not handcuff himself to a full NMC throughout the contract or make the contract pretty much buyout proof. He was the one who constantly has to fix his own mistakes. He over paid for Reeves, then traded him for pennies. He was forced to give up 2nd round picks to get rid of Nemeth, which could've been used to bolster the lineup other places. Constantly gave up picks to fill the hole he created by getting nothing for Buch. He made the room sad but getting out of the Goodrow contract he handed out. Also, he paid Arizona a lot more than other teams have in the past to retain salary on the Kane deal. Not to say everything Drury has done has been bad, after the Buch deal he made some nice savvy cheap trades that worked out well, but if he didn't have to correct his mistakes the team would've been in a better position to either have prospect reinforcements coming, or use those picks to upgrade the roster.
Brutananadilewski
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100% agree, I'm not saying KK is untouchable, or that he has a future on this team. I'm just saying that if it's for a guy like Clifton that's a bad deal.
