Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

McRanger92

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I haven't been paying attention much lately because I've been traveling and missing games (which seems like a good thing!) but the whole team looks like they're facing adversity and aren't sure what to do about it
man as much as I like Kreider in general trade rumors about him also don't shock me...he's a huge culprit in the "low energy and won't make an effort around the ice" stuff that goes on. His work on the boards is basically zero effort, his defensive work is zero effort, he hates to touch the puck to do anything with it except sometimes shoot and to deflect shots. His play is a shining example of what the team has struggled with this year and why they keep getting their shit kicked in.
You can't play soft in this league, and Kreider is playing as soft as it gets. You gotta at least put in some effort around the ice and not just in front of the net.

It was over for Kreider after that game in the playoffs where he threw Tkachuk's mouthguard into the stands. Florida obviously ultimately ended up winning and Tkachuk was asked about it. "It was the best play Kreider made all game". There's no coming back from that embarrassment.
 

noncents

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we have 3 elite players on the team. panarin, fox, and shesterkin.

the wish upon a star hope is that Perreault becomes elite. i'm not sure if panarin stays here long term.

the "get to the middle" playstyle element is a great shout but one thing that it requires that people forget is that you have to be able to either skate, or displace. cuylle skates well and he is becoming strong enough to displace defenders. a healthy chytil is both. berard skates. Kakko is strong.

lafreniere is neither, right now. Othmann skates poorly - he may have the desire but not the physical tools especially at his age.
 
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Fitzy

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Guys in the NHL are pros at the highest level. With a decent coach and enough guys doing the right things, 95% of them will buy in.

You either have talent or you don't.

The roster building should only be focused on ability. Let the coach worry about the rest.

If there are bad actors, you cross that bridge when you get to it.

I think the personality composition of the roster can impact team culture as much as coaching can.

Torts yelling at guys can help but has limits. A lot of limits. Having actual workmanlike players who establish that laziness and random Feburary games off will get you socially sanctioned I don't think is something that you can coach into a group of Nik Zherdevs.
 

will1066

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I think the personality composition of the roster can impact team culture as much as coaching can.

Torts yelling at guys can help but has limits. A lot of limits. Having actual workmanlike players who establish that laziness and random Feburary games off will get you socially sanctioned I don't think is something that you can coach into a group of Nik Zherdevs.
Good one. Nik Zherdev was as lazy as they came.

I think its time to tell Zib, trouba and Lindgren they can start working remotely.

The organization understands the younger generations like of WFH and we want to be friendly to their needs.

lol

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HatTrick Swayze

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can we stop with the “threatening to not report” shit

The only person who’s been pushing that is Larry, who is on the Rangers payroll basically.

Trouba had 8 million reasons to report if traded, just stop it

We'll never know what Kurt Overhardt/Trouba actually put out there to prevent a trade (key distinction...prevent the trade...a threat of refusing to report could have been enough to kill a trade regardless of if Trouba would have actually followed through on it).

But a nothing tweet like that from Vince, who has significantly more to lose from not toeing the NYR party line to retain access certainly isn't convincing.
 

Oscar Lindberg

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We'll never know what Kurt Overhardt/Trouba actually put out there to prevent a trade (key distinction...prevent the trade...a threat of refusing to report could have been enough to kill a trade regardless of if Trouba would have actually followed through on it).

But a nothing tweet like that from Vince, who has significantly more to lose from not toeing the NYR party line to retain access certainly isn't convincing.
I have no idea what Vince tweeted so

But it’s nonsensical to think Trouba wouldn’t report if he got traded. There would be so many legal ramifications it’s even silly to suggest.

Now do I think Trouba and his agent possibly let it be known he wouldn’t be terribly happy if they traded for him? Sure.

That’s not the same as saying he won’t report
 

Machinehead

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I think the personality composition of the roster can impact team culture as much as coaching can.

Torts yelling at guys can help but has limits. A lot of limits. Having actual workmanlike players who establish that laziness and random Feburary games off will get you socially sanctioned I don't think is something that you can coach into a group of Nik Zherdevs.
The composition has an effect, but I think you'll find few guys who made it this far who are unsalvageable.
 

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The Rangers should tell Mika to stay home for Thanksgiving and decide how much the team means to him.



You're so persecuted Jacob. I wouldve waived this guy after the game yesterday.

Trouba has completely tuned out

He was supposedly a big leader in the locker room

Indications seem to be he is just saying f*** it I'll be quiet and do my own thing and collect my money
 
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mike14

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Its kind of funny you say this.

I was listening to NhL radio in. The morning last week and they talked about a former player.

To sum it up, he was a player that was good at hockey but didnt actually like the sport, and honestly doesnt follow it at all now since he js out of it.

I get those vibes from Mika. Like he is good at it, and does it because he is good at it. But doesnt really care about it.

Edit: i was defintiely wrong with the original name. Cant remember the name of the player. But it was interesting to listen too.
Jason Bonsignore?
 

DanielBrassard

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No shit, really?
Yeah, she gave me inside information of how Matt Rempe's DM's are filled with all sorts of explicit material from some weird freak who told him he " was a BIG star who posted on that well-known hockey forum". She also said the person was complimenting Matt on his facial structure including his "brow ridge" and "maxilla", whatever that means.I didn't want to expose Ed but he has given me no choice.
 

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Yeah, she gave me inside information of how Matt Rempe's DM's are filled with all sorts of explicit material from some weird freak who told him he " was a BIG star who posted on that well-known hockey forum". She also said the person was complimenting Matt on his facial structure including his "brow ridge" and "maxilla", whatever that means.I didn't want to expose Ed but he has given me no choice.

This gives me a whole new perspective on what ed meant when he told me he was about to go get tweezed.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
 

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