Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[80shockeywasbuns]

And a 4mil hit this year and next, and then 2mil the next 2 years. Not a good option this year.

I really don’t understand this. There’s better defenseman than him for league min. Gus just took 2 million. They couldve found someone a million times better in the range of 4-5 million

 

[SnowblindNYR]

There's no way shape or form any of this is Trouba's fault. Or his family's.

This is the fault of the Rangers front office and the media.

The player doing what's been agreed upon in contract is not the player's fault.

He blocked trades? Boo hoo. You agreed upon giving the player NMC and NTC in the contract. It's his contractual right.

Bro, the concern is that he's blocking trades NOT in his list by telling teams that he will not report. In essence he is creating a full NTC rather than the partial one agreed upon in his contract. At least do some research.

 

[Atax]

There's no way shape or form any of this is Trouba's fault. Or his family's.

This is the fault of the Rangers front office and the media.

The player doing what's been agreed upon in contract is not the player's fault.

He blocked trades? Boo hoo. You agreed upon giving the player NMC and NTC in the contract. It's his contractual right.

No one has a problem with him using his 15 team NTC.
The Rangers arent at fault for attempting to trade someone. Thats within their right.
The issue people have is the no report threaten. (Speculation).
Put him on waivers if this is the case.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I'm sure you're right and maybe they will. If there's a team ready to sign Igor 8x12, then there's a team ready to give up significant assets for the chance to do so. But there wasn't a market for Hellebuyck and he signed for 8.5. We just saw what Markstrom got. Goalies just don't return much.


I think I was pretty obviously comparing him to Connor Hellebuyck. Igor is among the top goalies in the league. He certainly doesn't own that crown. Hellebuyck has just as strong a claim, if not a stronger one and he signed for 8.5.

Who are all these goalies getting over 10?

Carey Price signed for 10.5 for 14% of the cap in 2017.
Bobrovsky signed for 10 for 12.25% of the cap in 2019.

Those are the only two in history. Price was Price. Hart, Lindsay, Vezina, and OG. Bobrovsky was a 2x Vezina winner. Price had 500 games under his belt and 5 seasons where he played more games than Igor has ever played in a season.

The goaltending position is different now. Igor has never even played 60 games in a year. It was foolish to sign those two contracts when they happened, but at least the expectation was for those guys to play between 60-65 games a year. Not 50-55. You know who plays 60+ games consistently? Hellebuyck.

Vasilevskiy also is making 9.5 mil a year. As the cap goes up the dollars go up. 12% of a projected 90 mil cap next year is close to 10.8 mil. He's not making less than 10 million on his next contract no matter what people wish for.

 

[Atax]

Vasilevskiy also is making 9.5 mil a year. As the cap goes up the dollars go up. 12% of a projected 90 mil cap next year is close to 10.8 mil. He's not making less than 10 million of his next contract no matter what people wish for.

I'm fine moving on from him if he wants over 10 mil.

 

[MrAlmost]

I'm happy trouba is here. Eat it nerds. Keep crying. Trouba rules and Lindgren drools.

 

[n8]

Vasilevskiy also is making 9.5 mil a year. As the cap goes up the dollars go up. 12% of a projected 90 mil cap next year is close to 10.8 mil. He's not making less than 10 million of his next contract no matter what people wish for.

My number is $10.75 AAV
It'll put him 250k over the previous highest goalie salary but not the highest cap% (Carey Price IIRC)
I think that is a fine enough statement.

Give him $10.75M but absolutely not NMC or full NTC

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I really don’t understand this. There’s better defenseman than him for league min. Gus just took 2 million. They couldve found someone a million times better in the range of 4-5 million

Blame Gorton.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I'm fine moving on from him if he wants over 10 mil.

I understand both sides of it. They better find another one then. Garand could be an answer.

My number is $10.75 AAV
It'll put him 250k over the previous highest goalie salary but not the highest cap% (Carey Price IIRC)
I think that is a fine enough statement.

Give him $10.75M but absolutely not NMC or full NTC

That's reasonable but I'm not sure that's going to be enough for him. We will see.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Not sure what’s going on with this whole Trouba situation, but all I know is even if he stays, the C should be ripped of his chest.

 

[One moment please]

Does anyone know if there's truth to the contract staying as a NMC with regard to the wife's residency? Or is this actually a NTC

 

[Atax]

Does anyone know if there's truth to the contract staying as a NMC with regard to the wife's residency? Or is this actually a NTC

15 team NTC. He doesnt have NMC. He can be put on waivers and sent to HF. Which will happen if hes threatening not to report.

 

[Ail]

There's no way shape or form any of this is Trouba's fault. Or his family's.

This is the fault of the Rangers front office and the media.

The player doing what's been agreed upon in contract is not the player's fault.

He blocked trades? Boo hoo. You agreed upon giving the player NMC and NTC in the contract. It's his contractual right.

The TRUUUUUTH! Tuba sucks as a player and I want him gone but the front office RONGOED hard on this one lmao.

 

[grachevsceiling]

Do you think Benoit Allaire could make an 8 million dollar goalie out of Trouba? In that case, trade Shesterkin now for a solid Fox partner, a 3rd pair RD, and a top 6 RW. Voila. Occam’s razor.

 

[hardnosed]

15 team NTC. He doesnt have NMC. He can be put on waivers and sent to HF. Which will happen if hes threatening not to report.

Sending him to Hartford would never happen. But just for argument, you sent him to Hartford. Trouba is a stubborn s.o.b. What if he calls your bluff and goes there for a couple weeks? You can only bury 1 million. So he's costing 7 million. Now you have to replace him. If you pay his replacement more than 1 million, sending him down is actually using up more cap. Not to mention the complete shitstorm that's created.

 

[Atax]

Sending him to Hartford would never happen. But just for argument, you sent him to Hartford. Trouba is a stubborn s.o.b. What if he calls your bluff and goes there for a couple weeks? You can only bury 1 million. So he's costing 7 million. Now you have to replace him. If you pay his replacement more than 1 million, sending him down is actually using up more cap. Not to mention the complete shitstorm that's created.

It sets a precedence. Hey. If I threaten not to report I can sabotage every deal and control this organization. Cant let them happen. If you do that shit, off to Hartford you go. They sent Redden down. They can send Trouba down. In terms of replacements, they can figure it out.

 

[Ail]

Sending him to Hartford would never happen. But just for argument, you sent him to Hartford. Trouba is a stubborn s.o.b. What if he calls your bluff and goes there for a couple weeks? You can only bury 1 million. So he's costing 7 million. Now you have to replace him. If you pay his replacement more than 1 million, sending him down is actually using up more cap. Not to mention the complete shitstorm that's created.

IDK, why cut your nose off to spite your face? Why evade trades to play for an NHL team just go to ride a bus in Hartford to stick it to the man? You're still in the same situation you wanted to avoid and if you don't report you can just get terminated then figure your move out from there. Go play for NJ/NYI for a discount and then destroy Panarin or Mika lol.

 

[bouds]

You needed a small miracle to move Trouba given our situation/leverage, we already got lucky with the Goodrow release, and Trouba was a tougher ask. They took a shot, didn’t work out, but now it’s the only thing being talked about because of how it all went down.

Said it a few weeks ago, I’m out on Igor north of 9. We can’t afford that shit given our situation unless we get lucky and hit on a few really good cost controlled players, and that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen given his new contract is due at the end of 25.

We’re basically running it back with the same squad because we have no other options, we all know breaking it down and retooling is a no go even if it may be the better long term solution at this stage.

 

[Cmox]

15 team NTC. He doesnt have NMC. He can be put on waivers and sent to HF. Which will happen if hes threatening not to report.

It'd be great if they sent him to HFNYR.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

We’re getting deep into the speculation weeds here.
But my outhouse lawyer knowledge would say that if he refuses to report to Hartford and the Rangers terminate his contract then in order for him to sign with another team he would have to clear waivers with all 32 teams.

 

[Ail]

It'd be great if they sent him to HFNYR.

We have enough shitters here.

 

[WhereO Is Kakko]

ANNOUNCE TARASENKO. Now. Stat.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

It’s never going to get to the point where he’s put on waivers or his contract is terminated lol

Very clear at this point they’ll suck it up for a year and he’ll get moved next summer

 

[noncents]

ANNOUNCE TARASENKO. Now. Stat.

he's going to pitt

 

[hardnosed]

It’s never going to get to the point where he’s put on waivers or his contract is terminated lol

Very clear at this point they’ll suck it up for a year and he’ll get moved next summer

I agree. Drury and Trouba will make a gentleman's agreement that next offseason they will work together to find a trade partner that works for both parties. All the other options like Hartford or using legal means to force him out would cause too much chaos.