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Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part III: Day by Day

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Gardner McKay said:
Are we sure there is no theme to these thread titles? :help:

Where are all the trades folks. We need trades. Summer is boring.
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As we see with the Stepan being traded essentially for Shattenkirk, every team is in a situation where trading players means strengthening one part of your team at the expense of another.

I have a lot of trepidation about the state of the C group at this moment.
 
Mats Zuccarelli said:
Just checking if we traded Holden for Bozak yet.

No? Ok. Back to staring at the wall.
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Fair value would be Holden for Komarov. But I think the Rangers will wait till training camp and the first 15-20 games before moving a defenseman out.

On another note.

No one seems to have Puempel penciled in as a top 12 option. Maybe he sticks as a bottom 6 option, but not sure if he can contribute on special teams.

Maybe Holden + Puempel to a team that needs NHL bodies for a Center that can step in right away.

Looking at the Metro... almost all of the teams have depth issues... CAR seems to be pretty solid depth wise but not talent wise up front.

Expansion really did a number this year.
 
Mikos87 said:
Fair value would be Holden for Komarov. But I think the Rangers will wait till training camp and the first 15-20 games before moving a defenseman out.

On another note.

No one seems to have Puempel penciled in as a top 12 option. Maybe he sticks as a bottom 6 option, but not sure if he can contribute on special teams.

Maybe Holden + Puempel to a team that needs NHL bodies for a Center that can step in right away.

Looking at the Metro... almost all of the teams have depth issues... CAR seems to be pretty solid depth wise but not talent wise up front.

Expansion really did a number this year.
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Puempel is probably gonna be the 13th forward but fill in for Fast at the start of the season while he continues to recover from his surgery
 
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PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2017-2018 (47)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (22)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr|Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status|Team 2016 |Drafted/Acquired |Age 2017
1| F | J.T. Miller |$2.750.000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #15 NYR (2011) |24
2| F | Kevin Hayes |$2,600,000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #24 Chicago (2010)- signed w/NYR as UFA |25
3| D | Brady Skjei (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #28 NYR (2012) |23
4| F | Jimmy Vesey (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #66 Nashville (2012)- signed w/NYR as UFA |24
5| F | Matt Puempel |$725.000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #24 Ottawa (2011) - waiver claim 2016 |24
6| F | Rick Nash (NMC) |$7,800,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #1 overall Columbus Blue Jackets (2002) - acquired through trade|33
7| D | Nick Holden |$1,650,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - acquired through trade |30
8| F | Michael Grabner |$1,600,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #14 Vancover Canucks (2006) - signed w/NYR as UFA |30
9| F | Ondrej Pavelec |$1,300,000 |UFA 2018 |Winnipeg Jets/NHL |R2 #41 Atlanta Flames (2009) - signed w/NYR as UFA |29
10| F | David Desharnais |$1,000,000 |UFA 2018 |Edmonton Oilers/NHL |Undrafted - signed w/NYR as UFA |31
11| D | Ryan McDonagh |$4,700,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 Montreal (2007) - acquired unsigned through trade|28
12| F | Mats Zuccarello (NTC) |$4,500,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |30
13| D | Alexei Bereglazov (ELC)|$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Metallurg Magnitogorsk/KHL|Undrafted (started w NYR) |23
14| F | Pavel Buchnevich (ELC)|$925,000* |RFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #75 NYR (2013) |22
15| D | Anthony DeAngelo (ELC)|$863,333* |RFA 2019 |Arizona Coyotes/NHL |R1 #19 Tampa Bay (2014) |22
16| F | Chris Kreider |$4,625,000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009) |26
17| F | Jesper Fast(h) LTIR |$1,850.000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #157 NYR (2010) |26
18| F | Lias Andersson (ELC-S)|$925,000* |UFA 2020 |HV71/SHL |R1 #7 NYR (2017) |19
19| G | Henrik Lundqvist (NMC)|$8,500,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #208 NYR (2000) |35
20| D | Kevin Shattenkirk (NTC)|$6,650,000 |UFA 2021 |Washington Capitals/NHL|R1 #14 Colorado Avalanche (2007) - signed w/NYR as UFA|28
21| D | Marc Staal (NMC => NTC)|$5,750,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 NYR (2005) |30
22| D | Brendan Smith (NTC) |$4,350,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #27 Detroit Red Wings (2007) - acquired through trade|28[/table]

TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $75,000,000
BUYOUTS (Dan Girardi): $2,611,111
SALARY HIT: $65,838,333
SALARY HIT WITH BUYOUT:$68,449,444
CAP SPACE: $6,550,556
LTIR: Jesper Fast (until November/December)
12 FWD - 8 D - 2 G (1-2 more fwds incoming + 1 D going out)
AVERAGE AGE ~ 27.1 years

CONTRACTED 2017/2018 BUT LIKELY ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL/ELSEWHERE (25)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status |Team 2016 |Drafted |Age 2017
23|F |Paul Carey |$650,000 |UFA 2018 |Hershey Bears/AHL |R5 #135 Colorado (2007) - signed w/NYR as UFA |29
24|F |Adam Tambellini (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #65 NYR (2013) |23
25|F |Adam Chapie (ELC) |$800.000* |RFA 2018 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |26
26|F |Cristoval Nieves(ELC) |$755.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2012) |23
27|F |Steven Fogarty (ELC) |$750.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #72 NYR (2011) |24
28|F |Malte Strömwall (ELC) |$742.500* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #198 Calgary (started w NYR) |24
29|D |Ryan Graves (ELC) |$656,667* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #110 NYR (2013) |22
30|F |Daniel Catenacci |$650,000 |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #77 Buffalo (2011)- acquired through trade |23
31|D |John Gilmour (ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #198 Calgary (2012) - signed w/NYR as UFA|24
32|F |Cole Schneider |$650,000 |UFA 2019 |Rochester Americans/AHL |Undrafted - signed w/NYR as UFA |27
33|D |Steve Kampfer |$650,000 |UFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #93 (2007) Anaheim - acquired through trade |29
34|F |Vinni Lettieri (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Univ. of Minnesota/NCAA |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22
35|D |Neil Pionk (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth/NCAA |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22
36|G |Chris Nell (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Bowling Green/NCAA |Undrafted (started w NYR) |23
37|F |Robin Kovacs (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #62 NYR (2015) |21
38|G |Brandon Halverson (ELC)|$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2014) |21
39|D |Vince Pedrie (ELC) |$767,500* |RFA 2019 |Penn State Univ./NCAA |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22
40|F |Ryan Gropp (ELC) |$839.166* |RFA 2020 |Seattle Thunderbirds/WHL |R2 #41 NYR (2015) |21
41|G |Alexander Georgiev(ELC)|$792,500* |RFA 2020 |TPS/Liiga Finland |Undrafted (started w NYR) |21
42|D |Sean Day (ELC-S) |$775,833* |RFA 2020 |Windsor Spitfires/OHL |R3 #81 NYR (2016) |19
43|F |Dawson Leedahl (ELC)|$749,167* |RFA 2020 |Regina Pats/WHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |21
44|F |Timothy Gettinger (ELC-S)|$736,667* |RFA 2020 |Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds/OHL|R5 #141 NYR (2016) |19
45|F |Gabriel Fontaine (ELC)|$736,667* |RFA 2020 |Rouyn-Noranda Huskies/QMJHL |R6 #171 NYR (2016) |20
46|D |Sergey Zborovskiy (ELC)|$734,166* |RFA 2020 |Regina Pats/WHL |R3 #79 NYR (2015) |20
47|F |Filip Chytil (ELC-S) |$925,000* |RFA 2020 |PSG Zlín/Czech Extraliga |R1 #21 NYR (2017) |18[/table]

* - has additional bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
@ - signed to an AHL deal with Hartford Wolfpack

RFAs (Restricted free agents) - 1
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Cap hit 2017| Team 2017 |Age 2017 | Signed 2017=>|Caphit 2017 =>
1| F | Mika Zibanejad |$2,625,000 |New York Rangers/NHL |24|Qualified|Arbitration hearing on July 25
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UFAs (Unrestricted free agents) - 13
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Cap hit 2017| Team 2017 |Age 2017 | Signed 2017=>|Caphit 2017 =>
1| F | Tanner Glass |$1,450,000 |New York Rangers/NHL |33|Not resigned|
2| D | Chris Summers |$600.000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |29|Pittsburgh Penguins|
3| F | Brandon Pirri |$1,100,000 |New York Rangers/NHL |26|Not qualified|
4| D | Troy Donnay |$716,667 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |23|Not qualified|
5| G | MacKenzie Skapski |$661,667 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |23|Not qualified|
6| F | Taylor Beck |$650.000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |26|Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg/KHL|
7| G | Magnus Hellberg |$625,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |26|HC Kunlun Red Star/KHL|
8| D | Adam Clendening |$600.000 |New York Rangers/NHL |25|Arizona Coyotes|
9| D | Michael Paliotta |$600.000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |24|Not qualified|Toronto Marlies (AHL)
10|D | Tommy Hughes |$600,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |25|Not resigned|
11|F | Marek Hrivik |$600,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |26|Calgary Flames|
12|F | Chris Brown |$575,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |25|Not resigned|[/table]

PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT WITH RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (12)
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Team 2016| Height |Weight| Nationality |Shoots|DOB|Drafted
1|G |Igor Shestyorkin |St. Petersburg SKA (KHL) |6' 1"| 187 | Russia |L|December 30, 1995 |R4 #118 NYR (2014)
2|F |Patrik Virta |TPS/Liiga Finland |5' 10" | 181 | Finland |R|March 6, 1996 |R7 #207 NYR (2017)
3|D |Tyler Nanne |Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA |5' 10" | 183 | USA |R|March 17, 1996 |R5 #142 NYR (2014)
4|F |Daniel Bernhardt |VIK Västerås HK/Allsvenskan |6' 3" | 191 | Sweden |L|April 11, 1996 |R4 #119 NYR (2015)
5|D |Brandon Crawley |London Knights/OHL |6' 2" | 203 | USA |L|February 2, 1997 |R4 #123 NYR (2017)
6|F |Dominik Lakatos |Bili Tygri Liberec/Czech Extraliga|5' 11"| 179 |Czech Republic |L|April 8, 1997 |R6 #157 NYR (2017)
7|G |Adam Huska |UConn Huskies/NCAA |6' 3" | 191 | Slovakia |L|May 12, 1997 |R7 #184 NYR (2015)
8|F |Ty Ronning |Vancouver Giants/WHL |5' 9" | 165 | Canada |R|October 20, 1997 |R7 #201 NYR (2016)
9|G |Tyler Wall |UMass Lowell River Hawks/NCAA |6' 2" | 190 | Canada |R|January 14, 1998 |R6 #174 NYR (2016)
10|D |Tarmo Reunanen |TUTO Hockey/Mestis |6' 0" | 180 | Finland |L|March 1, 1998 |R4 #98 NYR (2016)
11|F |Morgan Barron |St. Andrew's College/CAHS |6' 2" | 201 | Canada |R|December 02, 1998 |R6 #174 NYR (2017)
12|D |Calle Själin |Östersunds IK/Div.1 Sweden |6' 1" | 176 | Sweden |L|September 2, 1999 |R5 #145 NYR (2017)
(13)|F |Carl Klingberg |EV Zug/NLA - rights retained |6' 3" | 212 | Sweden |R|January 28, 1991 |R2 #34 Atlanta (2009)
(14)|F |Niklas Jensen |Jokerit/KHL - rights retained |6' 3" | 216 | Denmark |R|March 6, 1993 |R1 #29 Vancouver (2011)[/table]

2018 DRAFT PICKS (6)
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR

  • We gained a 2nd round pick from Ottawa when we traded Derrick Brassard
  • We then lost Ottawas 2nd round pick to Detroit in the trade for Brendan Smith
  • We then also lost our 7th round pick to Ottawa in the trade for Mika Zibanejad

2019 DRAFT PICKS (7)
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • 7th round NYR

2020 DRAFT PICKS (7)
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • 7th round NYR
 
Levitate said:
Puempel is probably gonna be the 13th forward but fill in for Fast at the start of the season while he continues to recover from his surgery
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We're going to need two more forwards to make that true.

Zibanejad, Zuccarello, Hayes, Kreider, Vesey, Miller, Nash, Buchnevich, Grabner, Desharnais

That's 10. Fast and Puempel make 12.

In fact, with Fast out, there really needs to be 2 more forwards around the team. Carey, Schneider and Catenacci all have brief call-up experience.

There are a few bottom-6 type UFAs still out there: Cramarossa, Chiasson, King, Winnik, White, Korpikoski. And a few middle-6 kind of players: Stafford, Vanek, Jagr. The problem with most of those players is that their skating isn't all that good (I don't know much about Cramarossa or Ryan White).

I would expect to see at least one more player signed towards the end of the month or in August.
 
There's a chance that Tkachyov kid comes over and claims a spot.

Also, one T. Glass seems to be looking for a job.
 
Fellas...this is not unexpected the lack of anything going on. Once the July 1 festivities were over, it was pretty obvious, at least to me it was, that JG was going to sit tight till around training camp and see where things were at with our boys and also see what other teams were going to do after they evaluate their squads.

I don't think we are in bad shape at all even with the center situation not totally handled. Worst comes to worst, we go with what we got and considering the huge upgrades we made on the back end, so long as Hank plays up to his capabilities and the rest of the offense does their thing, we'll be just fine for the beginning of the regular season and be one of the better teams in the East.

Team is better than it was last year at this time IMO and we have quite a bit of upside with some of these new additions, so I'm going to go back to watch paint dry for the next few months and I suggest the same for my fellow goombas in here who are expecting anything of note to occur as there is nothing on the horizon that is going to move the needle at least here in Ranger land for the time being.
 
Nickmo82 said:
There's a chance that Tkachyov kid comes over and claims a spot.

Also, one T. Glass seems to be looking for a job.
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Don't even suggest such a thing. If Brooks reads this there will be a headline tomorrow.
"Rangers are in the market for a veteran forward and Glass could be the answer"
 
Tawnos said:
We're going to need two more forwards to make that true.

Zibanejad, Zuccarello, Hayes, Kreider, Vesey, Miller, Nash, Buchnevich, Grabner, Desharnais

That's 10. Fast and Puempel make 12.

In fact, with Fast out, there really needs to be 2 more forwards around the team. Carey, Schneider and Catenacci all have brief call-up experience.

There are a few bottom-6 type UFAs still out there: Cramarossa, Chiasson, King, Winnik, White, Korpikoski. And a few middle-6 kind of players: Stafford, Vanek, Jagr. The problem with most of those players is that their skating isn't all that good (I don't know much about Cramarossa or Ryan White).

I would expect to see at least one more player signed towards the end of the month or in August.
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Yeah I was more going with the idea that with a full roster Puempel is probably that 13th/fill in guy. Team has familiarity with him, etc

Not sure what they do with the rest of the roster between now and camp. Doubt they see anyone in Hartford who can make a permanent leap but who knows
 
NickyFotiu said:
Its Holden, Graves & a 2nd round pick for Brass. :)
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Nicky my man, I'd love for Brass to come back but that's a severely steep price you have laid out to get him back in a Ranger uniform.

Forget the Graves part of the equation, Holden and a 2nd round pick would be more than enough IMO. I don't get the impression Ottawa is all the enamored with Brass and so if we really wanted him back which I kind of doubt, JG wouldn't have to pay as much as you laid out.

Don't you know, the only team Brass plays well for is for us. No reason for us to overpay for him...:nod:
 
Brassard is coming off a shoulder injury (again)

The Rangers sold high and got the most for him. He isn't coming back
 
Maximus said:
Nicky my man, I'd love for Brass to come back but that's a severely steep price you have laid out to get him back in a Ranger uniform.

Forget the Graves part of the equation, Holden and a 2nd round pick would be more than enough IMO. I don't get the impression Ottawa is all the enamored with Brass and so if we really wanted him back which I kind of doubt, JG wouldn't have to pay as much as you laid out.

Don't you know, the only team Brass plays well for is for us. No reason for us to overpay for him...:nod:
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I think Ottawa fans would say that was a cheap offer. They gave us Zib and a 2nd. We would be giving back a mid level prospect (we already have 3 LH dmen) a 2nd and a guy (Holden) half the fans wanted benched.
I think its unlikely but it would be cool! :D
 
NickyFotiu said:
I think Ottawa fans would say that was a cheap offer. They gave us Zib and a 2nd. We would be giving back a mid level prospect (we already have 3 LH dmen) a 2nd and a guy (Holden) half the fans wanted benched.
I think its unlikely but it would be cool! :D
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Just because we schiestered them the first time doesn't mean we need to pay for it and take it up the keister like Ottawa did...lol.

It aint happening...Brassgod coming back home but it's a nice thought...:)
 
Maximus said:
Just because we schiestered them the first time doesn't mean we need to pay for it and take it up the keister like Ottawa did...lol.

It aint happening...Brassgod coming back home but it's a nice thought...:)
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That offer is very light. We would be nuts not to do it but Ottawa wouldn't.
 
Miller Zib Buch
Kreider Hayes Zucc
Vesey Desharnais Nash
Grabner Anderson Puempel
Fast (Inj.)

McDonagh Shattenkirk
Skjei Smith
Staal DeAngelo
Holden
 
Kreider - Zib - Buch/Zucc
E Kane - Bozak - Nash
Miller - Hayes - Zucc/Buch
Grabner - Desharnais/Anderson - Vesey
Puempel
Fast (Inj.)

McDonagh - Shattenkirk
Skjei - Smith
Bear gloves - DeAngelo
Kampfer

Make it happen (with some retainment)
Wonder what Zib signs for
They are far apart now, warned about this weeks ago
 
47 contracts signed right now
2 of them (Chytil + ?) will likely slide
45 contracts

Remaining Signings
  • Zib (46 contracts) - done before arbitration
  • One of Toninato or Kerfoot (47 contracts) - done after August 15
  • Will Butcher (48 contracts) - done after August 15
  • Tkachyov (49 contracts) - done after camp if he impresses

Then it is possible to move out a D on the NYR and add some fwd depth vet maybe? We will likely have a PTO or two as well? (Still 49)
 
BBKers said:
47 contracts signed right now
2 of them (Chytil + ?) will likely slide
45 contracts

Remaining Signings
  • Zib (46 contracts) - done before arbitration
  • One of Toninato or Kerfoot (47 contracts) - done after August 15
  • Will Butcher (48 contracts) - done after August 15
  • Tkachyov (49 contracts) - done after camp if he impresses

Then it is possible to move out a D on the NYR and add some fwd depth vet maybe? We will likely have a PTO or two as well? (Still 49)
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Would rather Toninato and Kerfoot. And not Butcher.
 
imo, center is the lone issue right now with this team. no hurry though.

JG has added shatty and ADA plus resigned smith. the D is done. sure looks like holden is the odd man out depending on bereglzov ADA and pionk and how they do in camp. im sure JG keeps his powder dry and waits till after camp to so something.

that something seems to be either break camp with andersson or perhaps slot JTM in as the 2 or 3C or if not those 2, add a centerman via a trade or a post camp waiver opportunity. he's got options.

which ever it is, this team has addressed its main issues and perhaps created another one at this point.

remove girardi. check

improve/stabilize/balance the defense. check.

improve the pp point. check.

so the D looks real good right now. JG just needs to see how the middle of the ice plays out.

im still saying andersson break camp with us and gets a legit chance to stick.
 
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