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Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part I: Summer Wind

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PMII said:
I was agreeing with you. My post implied that MAF was good. So is Letang but aside from him Pittsburgh had some awful players on D those years.
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Center might have been one of our positional strengths, but Crosby/Malkin >> Stepan/Brassard
 
White Plains Batman said:
Haven't posted in a while. This idea to trade Skjei for Duschene is just doofy. Right out of the Esposito GM playbook. Let's trade a guy who hit nearly 40 points, elevates his game in the playoffs, and is on an ELC for one more year, a bridge deal for two, and maybe a big contract after for a guy who is two years away from UFA and had a bad year. That would be Ridley/Miller for Carpenter bad. Not to mention if the Rangers decide not to pay McD in two years, then Brady is pretty much guaranteed to be first pair. And just cause all of these new DMen look cool and sexy, they don't know what they have with Pionk/Bereglazov or even Deangelo/Zbo/Graves/Day. What if most of these guys top out as 3rd pair, or the two older guys are closer to Gilroy than Krug.

I hate hate hate the "You have to give to get" saying. It's got this franchise in trouble on many occasions.

Matt Cullen coming back to NY? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::handclap:

The guy HATED it here and couldn't wait to leave. There's a better chance of Lauri "I'm not playing in NY because they pay Prucha more than me" Korpikoski who was always treated as the stepchild prospect compared to Dubi/Cally/Arty/Dawes being invited to camp and winning a spot.

Poor Ryan Graves, all he does is work hard and improve and because he's not the new toy, everyone is ready to Aaron Miler him for some win now vet.

Zuc: Guy might play till he's 40. As the team gets more shooters, it'll be good to have him as a setup man because let's be honest, he doesn't shoot. Him and Gropp would be an interesting combo to experiment with in camp.

Nash: It's not so much about getting rid of his cap hit, but changing the dynamic of the team. There still aren't enough rats or people to stir it up or light a fire. Larry Brooks mentioned type As. I agree. Out of the new guys they brought in? Maybe Deharnais takes on a leadership role, DeAngelo is still very young and won't have much say initially in the team dynamic. McD is quiet, and Mika is pretty mellow. Nash retained for a vet with one year left and a prospect. Continue the makeover.

Gorton's a much better poker player than Sather. He's cerebral and is waiting for the right opportunity to strike. As teams continue to fill up and lose cap space, he'll bring in a center for a moderate price (I'm speculating Kovacs might be one of the prospects on the way out after his legal trouble in Sweden) It'll be when we least expect it and a name out of left field.
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There are literally only a couple clowns that want to trade Skjei/ridiculous stuff for Duchene for some reason. The same people also love to advertise it on the main boards.
 
Holden + 2nd for Bozak would make me happy

Also, Deharnais is our reclamation project this year. Add him to Grabner, Holden, Pouilot, Stempniak, Stralman, etc.
 
Marc-Andre Fleury to me is the Eli Manning of the NHL: he has these moments of sheer brilliance (2009 Game 7, playoffs this year) but many times these awww gosh darnit lapses. They've pretty much had the same career.
 
I don't get the hard on for Duchene. He's good and an improvement over Stepan, but he's not this game changer that will flip the Rangers into the favorites to win the Cup. Also, it looks like he may not be moved and with the ****show in Colorado, why not sit back and let the sore fester until Sakic is under tremendous pressure?

I'm happy going into the season with what we've got plus a few training camp surprises. If Center is killing us like D did last year, then we can consider a major move before the new year and still have time to make the POs comfortably.

No more goofy trades for the crush of the day.
 
I agree, stop this unwarranted Duchene love fest, he's nothing special, definitely not worth anything close to the rumored asking price, stay away.
 
We have 43 NHL contracts signed as of now (if Kevin Klein retires)

What if something like this were to unfold:
42 contracts - Buyout of Marc Staal
41 contracts - NYR Trade Nick Holden, Ryan Graves/Robin Kovacs and a 2018 2nd (if Staal is kept and TML then retain $1M) to Tronta for Tyler Bozak and a 2018 4th
42 contracts - Sign RFA Mika Zibanejad at 5 years and $5,4 M per year
43 contracts - Sign RFA Nick Jensen at 1 year and $0,65 M per year
44 contracts - Sign RFA Daniel Catenacci at 1 year and $0,65 M per year
45 contracts - Sign UFA F Alex Chiasson at $850.000 for one year (depth, camp competition)
46 contracts - Sign UFA F Carl Klingberg (NYR own rights) at $850.000 for one year (depth, Hartford)
47 contracts - Sign UFA D Petteri Lindbohm at $850.000 for one year (depth, Hartford)
48 contracts - Sign UFA D Will Butcher on an ELC
49 contracts - Sign NYR draft pick Lias Andersson to a 3 year ELC (loan him to Sweden if he does not make team)
50 contracts ? - PTO to Vladimir Tkachev (maybe he impresses and signs with us)
49 (48) contracts ? - Release Malte Strömwall from his contract in a mutually agreed nullification (likely he resigns in Europe)
48 (47) contracts - Have Tim Gettinger play as an overager in juniors this season (hence his contract slides)
Find an AHL depth goalie for a Hartford on an AHL contract

LINEUP
Kreider - Zib - Buch
Nash - Bozak - Zucc
Vesey - Hayes - Miller
Grabner - One of Desharnais/Nieves/Andersson - One of Chiasson/Klingberg/Puempel/Jensen

Fast starts on LTIR

McD - Shatty
Skjei - Smith
Beargloves - ADA
Kampfer/Lindbohm

King
Ondrej
 
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You guys need to stop using "rob Peter to pay paul" because you don't know what it means.

When you make a trade from wing, a position that you are deep in, to fill a spot you are severely lacking, the phrase doesn't work.

Maybe if, I don't know, you trade Stepan to get a right d. Then yes, the phrase works. There was less crying at that time about making holes then there is over hypothetically trading a wing, the least important position on the ice that we have depth in.

How people want to go into the season with Hayes and desharnais as #2 and #3 rather than trade a 55 point wing is amazing.

Look, maybe the trade doesn't exist where zuccarello somehow returns a top 6 center. But pretty please, stop using phrases that you don't understand.
 
Doubt Klingberg wants to sign, our F depth is still pretty strong, not like he has an easy path to the NHL and i think he rather stays in Europe then play AHL.
 
IF you could get him for say Hayes, Graves and a #1, why not. He is a very good player who has been playing on a garbage fire of a team. He would 100% benefit from the Rangers style of play.

Buyout Staal and sign Jussi Jokinen for the 3C for 1 year.

Kreider - Duchane - Buch
Miller - Zbad - Zucc
Vesey - Jokinen - Nash
Grabner - DD - Fast

McD - Shattenkirk
Skjei - Smith
Bear Gloves - DeAngelo
Holden

That is a very good team.
 
ManUtdTobbe said:
Doubt Klingberg wants to sign, our F depth is still pretty strong, not like he has an easy path to the NHL and i think he rather stays in Europe then play AHL.
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I think he wants back here. Last year from the KHL he was like "I'd be a perfect add to their roster" but nothing came.
 
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