Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXIX: Going 11-3 to close out this crazy year should do it!

[tomobson]

I mean, I really only have one guy playing bonafide out of position.

Replace Kravtsov with Nieves.

 

[Machinehead]

Replace Kravtsov with Nieves.

Yeah, because those things are close.

 

[Alluckks]

1400 posts in 1 thread? This is out of hand

 

[Machinehead]

dude you went Full Bern. You never go full Bern

if 2 of Berard, Vierling, Cuylle, Barron, Ronning Richards, turn out to be anything above 4th liners that would be immense for this club. It’s possible more then 2 can. But if you get 2 cheap middle/bottom 6 guys from that lot I’d consider us extremely lucky

Barron has 18 points in 19 AHL games and he was a PPG player in college. He's probably already better than an NHL 4th liner.

If, in two years, you have nothing else out of the wealth of prospects we have, you can just keep Chytil or sign some scrub to play with Panarin like we did this year. With Fast in 2020 and Blackwell in 2021, we know we can put pretty much anybody on that line.

 

[tomobson]

Yeah, because those things are close.

You can't discount the synergy Nieves brings to an NHL top line.

 

[Machinehead]

Like I said, I don't have a crystal ball, so nobody can fill in every spot.

But moving Kravtsov to center solves multiple problems and it's something I would be trying instead of trying to sneak into the last playoff spot like we did during the dark ages.

Part of me feels like we've wasted this year chasing a ghost instead of worrying about development. Every decision we make is about making the playoffs.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Like I said, I don't have a crystal ball, so nobody can fill in every spot.

But moving Kravtsov to center solves multiple problems and it's something I would be trying instead of trying to sneak into the last playoff spot like we did during the dark ages.

Part of me feels like we've wasted this year chasing a ghost instead of worrying about development. Every decision we make is about making the playoffs.

I believe that Gorton and JD have a vision and a plan in hand and it preaches patience. This team is being competitive while bringing along young talented players. I will say i dont believe Quinn is the man for the job.

Id love to try Kravtsov at center but again people he is not a center.

Also, this team is nothing like we had during the dark ages. We are the youngest team in the league, tons of talented players coming up the ranks, ALL of our draft picks, we have a future and a very bright one at that. You want to have young players grow and develop in a winning culture. Trust me it helps.. Ex Alabama. The dark ages our team was full of overaged and over priced vets, no draft picks, no young talent coming up, no future or present.

Lets pump the breaks a bit and realize that there are several options that this franchise can turn towards but i believe in GOrton and JD to build this team right

 

[wafflepadsave]

I mean, it depends on who is there, obviously but the Rangers clearly need to take a hard look at their center depth.

Absolutely.

 

[bobbop]

So we spent 8 million on Trouba just to get another veteran defenseman?

Yes and Trouba isn't exactly a graybeard

 

[Machinehead]

Yes and Trouba isn't exactly a graybeard

Do we need somebody specifically old?

 

[bobbop]

Do we need somebody specifically old?

You want to run 5 23-year-olds out there every night?

 

[bobbop]

One guy I'd like to add to my wish list is Barclay Goodrow. Excellent on faceoffs, plenty of sandpaper, versatile. won't be ultra expensive.

 

[Machinehead]

You want to run 5 23-year-olds out there every night?

Yes.

And Trouba is 28 next year. How old do we need guys to be before they meet your arbitrary standard?

 

[Irishguy42]

You want to run 5 23-year-olds out there every night?

Multiple NHL teams, including the Rangers, already do that and it works.

You don't NEED to fill a player-age quota to have a good/great team

 

[Irishguy42]

Yes.

And Trouba is 28 next year. How old do we need guys to be before they meet your arbitrary standard?

Teams need at least three 30+ year old semi-useless players to be successful because intangibles

You aren't a "veteran" in the eyes of old-heads until you reach that point.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Yes.

And Trouba is 28 next year. How old do we need guys to be before they meet your arbitrary standard?

I do think there's some merit to not rushing one of these kids into an NHL slot just yet. You've even made the point yourself about Miller that these kids struggle to make the jump immediately to the NHL, and I don't see anyone else other than Nils who I'm confident in making the full-time jump next year. Tarmo probably can, but I don't see them running out a third pairing of Reunanen-Lundkvist next season. If I had to have a one-year transition defensive group, this is what I'd like to see:

NHL:

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Cole/Nemeth-Lundkvist
Smith

Hartford:

Tarmo-Raddysh
Jones-Schneider
Robertson-Skinner

 

[jay from jersey]

One guy I'd like to add to my wish list is Barclay Goodrow. Excellent on faceoffs, plenty of sandpaper, versatile. won't be ultra expensive.

He would be great. Going to have a lot of interest though. Coleman as well

 

[jay from jersey]

Yes.

And Trouba is 28 next year. How old do we need guys to be before they meet your arbitrary standard?

I agree with that. If the kids look good enough let them play and win a spot. Could always sign a guy like Holden as a cheap 7 D with experience if they are truly worried. I don’t see them dropping big assets on a Elkholm for 2 years. He would be great. But the cost to get him wouldn’t be and it’s not the most important allocation of resources at this time

 

[Machinehead]

Lareniere's beard!

Laf gets the assist

 

[NYSPORTS]

Chytil is excellent on the boards, is only three months older than Krav, and has shown exponentially more to this point in their careers. He was also one of just two or three players who looked good in the play in series last season. Why is he a "maybe" and Kravtsov an untouchable, exactly?

what a goal vs philly

 

[JayAB81]

I really have no issues with the top 9 forwards, well the top 9 IMO, Panarin, Kreider, lafreneire, Mika, Strome, Chytil, Buch, Kakko, & Kravtsov, it’s Howden who is garbage, I think guys like Rooney, Blackwell, & PDG are serviceable but shouldn’t be out there every night.

With that said I want to see what Barron can do, either at C or LW.

‘I like Gauthier but get the feeling the Rangers don’t have him in their long term plans.

Defenseman wise, Trouba, Fox, Miller, & Lindgren are fine by me, Trouba has played better sucks about his recent injury. It comes down to that 3rd line, guys like Nils, Hajek, Reunanen, Schneider, Jones should all get hard looks, I think bitetto is a good backup type.

Also question, if we do miss the playoffs, where would we pick, our most likely pick? Idk how the Kraken coming in effects the draft.

And we needed this win.

 

[Leetch3]

having experience and guys who know how to win has NOTHING to do an age quota...how many games have we lost this year cause we are so young? this team has almost no experience especially in the playoffs besides kreider...

chara is a bad option cause he can't play anymore....but this team badly could use some veteran leadership to help support the kids. all teams that has won have had them.

and it has nothing to do with age...its about experience preferably deep playoff runs and stanley cup rings. if you can find that experience/leadership from a guy that has won and is still youngish, that's a double bonus. but we shouldn't undervalue the importance of leadership and experience.

 

[Off Sides]

They signed leadership and experience already though.

 

[Avery16]

They signed leadership and experience already though.

We could use a good shit-stirrer.

 

[tomobson]

They signed leadership and experience already though.

They can get more. They don't have to be $6mill+ players. Our bottom six is gonna be pretty bare next season if they sell off part of that veteran core and you could definitely sign a role player with some good playoff experience for cheap that slots better on those lines than all the kids and ahl tweeners we have on them now.