Roster Building Thread IV (2019/2020)
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I'm prob totally wrong but I just feel like it never takes the nyr this long to get these rfa's signed any word on what could be the holdup currently? Or on what's being offered?
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Thirty One
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If I'm doing it right, I see 27 other unsigned RFAs out there.
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Carp in this podcast says we were going to offer sheet Point until we signed Panarin. FF to 1:01:30
They have no leverage, especially lemieux. They'll sign soon and most likely before training camp. Patience, rfas in other markets that are actual stars are still waiting for their contract. Let them pout, they dont have a choice. Next season is their payday and I think theyre aware of it.
I think point benefits from a really great team. Im always skeptical of someone who plays with superstars. Im happy with the route we took.
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IIRC Dubinsky's holdout was what put Cally ahead of him in many fans' minds, where Dubi had been the more popular of the two prior to that. I could be wrong on this one though.
I do remember it being held against him throughout the rest of his NYR tenure though.
I do remember it being held against him throughout the rest of his NYR tenure though.
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He's a bit like Draisaitl...definitely gets a boost with the talent he plays with but still an elite (or close to it) player. Better than someone like Sean Monahan who's more of a leecher.
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Most people rejected his message
He held out prior to 2009-10 IIRC and wanted 4x4M, but finally caved and signed a 2-year bridge (2x1.85M). When that one was up he finally got the extension he wanted (4x4.2M), then had a down year and subsequently traded.
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They have to move someone to make room under the cap which complicates the process. It's not the regular game of chicken.
I'm not shocked there's a single example I'm just making the point that I feel like we generally get it done much more quickly. Plus I wanted to know if anyone had any idea about what was being asked in terms of...well...term.
ADA’s camp is fighting for Trouba’s contract, or Trouba’s puppy.
Lemieux wants whatever ADA doesn’t get.
That’s what my sources have been telling me.
You know, to be honest, we all almost laugh this off — but facts are that the reports from that time were true in many regards. I wonder if we seriously were considering an offer-sheet?
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Stepan signed September 26th
Del Zotto signed January 13th (lock out season, 6 days before the start of the season)
Dubinsky signed September 19th
Del Zotto signed January 13th (lock out season, 6 days before the start of the season)
Dubinsky signed September 19th
Re the timing of TDA and Lemieux’s signing, let’s not forget that it is a fact that Gorton is looking to dump contracts as we speak, and that if he where to be successful with that, these guys would surely get paid more.
Not saying that they won’t hold out or will sign by a certain date, but there is certainly no reason for them to sign in good time before camp starts and before Gorton can conclude that he won’t be able to move anyone.
Not saying that they won’t hold out or will sign by a certain date, but there is certainly no reason for them to sign in good time before camp starts and before Gorton can conclude that he won’t be able to move anyone.
The other Rangers player who held out had a little more experience than ADA and Lemieux. ADA is a talented player. Former 1st round pick. Right handed shooting D. He is with his 3rd NHL team already at the age of 23. He turns 24 in October. This type of player shouldn't be on his 3rd NHL team. The Rangers don't know what they have in this player. Do the Rangers trust this guy? Maturity issues. Sign the one year QO. Have a good season. File for salary arbitration next July 5.
Lemieux is represented by his father. He knows how the contract stuff works.
Both of them need the 4th year to become arbitration eligible. They can play in Europe and want to return to the NHL in 2020-21. Guess what? They will be the same spot.
My favorite part of the Carp interview was talking about the Rangers outlook for this season. They will be younger than last season. Quinn didn't give major minutes to the young players last season. Looking at the Rangers roster, Quinn doesn't many other options this season.
They still had Zuccarello and Hayes playing major minutes. Especially Hayes who played nearly 20 minutes or more in every game.
Kevin Hayes
He discussed how poor defensively the Rangers will be. Hayes and Zuccarello were good two way players for the Rangers. The players replacing them are either young or not good defensively like Panarin.
I hope Strome doesn't get those minutes allocated to Hayes last season. That's not serving the cause.
Lemieux is represented by his father. He knows how the contract stuff works.
Both of them need the 4th year to become arbitration eligible. They can play in Europe and want to return to the NHL in 2020-21. Guess what? They will be the same spot.
My favorite part of the Carp interview was talking about the Rangers outlook for this season. They will be younger than last season. Quinn didn't give major minutes to the young players last season. Looking at the Rangers roster, Quinn doesn't many other options this season.
They still had Zuccarello and Hayes playing major minutes. Especially Hayes who played nearly 20 minutes or more in every game.
Kevin Hayes
He discussed how poor defensively the Rangers will be. Hayes and Zuccarello were good two way players for the Rangers. The players replacing them are either young or not good defensively like Panarin.
I hope Strome doesn't get those minutes allocated to Hayes last season. That's not serving the cause.
Gorton has been trying to move players for the last 3-4 months. What's going to change in the next 15 days? 1/2 of the NHL teams are looking to move money.
Gorton has said another move isn't coming to create more space and the money is already there for both players.
$874,125.
They can wait until September 12th.
pld459666
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Beleskey and Nieves are sent packing to Hartford. That creates an additional 1.8 on top of the space we already have.
Then we can send down Smith and save an additional million and have just under 4 million in space.
I personally would carry 13 forwards and 7 defenders meaning we have to get Pepe Jr. And ADA signed for their QOs in order to have some pocket money for the season.
Sending down belesky and Nieves doesn’t clear any space cause no one is counting them, it’s assumed that belesky is buried and we have 13 forwards without Nieves and McKegg, if either makes the team another forward goes down to offset the cap hit
And sending smith down only saves you $1 mil if you don’t need to replace him. Save less than 300k if he is replaced. You aren’t keeping a kid in the press box. So who is the 7th d?
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