Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[WTFMAN99]

Based off what Zegras got, I don’t think Rossi would cost much more tbh. I would take a chance on him.

Vancouver has offered 15th apparently for Rossi but that won't get it across the finishing line.

 

[ToneDog]

Interesting to see some players we thought highly off got next to nothing for trades
Marchment and Zegras went for nothing

Have a bad feeling we are going to end up with Tanev and Marchand...... Not a fan of either players

I'd be happy with Tanev, Marchand and Mangiapane and dumping 3 or 4 of Jarnkrok, Kampf, Robertson and Holmberg. Moving Rielly would also be huge but more likely they move Carlo to make room for Dobson (in my dreams).

 

[OVO16]

Nick Robertson 1 for 1 for Evander Kane? Oilers clear cap-space and get a younger depth player back with potential. They do well with players like that.

Leafs get a top 6/9 Winger with some grit.

 

[stickty111]

Not sure they are up to something, but it does add weight to the Hertl rumors.

 

[LeafSteel]

whats the plan?

The plan is not to waste precious cap space gained by letting Marner walk for nothing to take on contracts that bite us in the ass, particularly sooner rather than later.

Ferris is actually going to take Bennett to July 1st, despite the contract being done and him saying he's staying...

Dudes a shark complete douchebag.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Not sure they are up to something, but it does add weight to the Hertl rumors.

they be cooking

 

[namttebih]

I know that this is pie in the sky, and I have raised this question here once before.

Sign Marner 1 x $19M with a limited NTC. He gets bank for a year and allows the Leafs to acquire assets at the TDL.

It would obviously mean a step back for a season.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I know that this is pie in the sky, and I have raised this question here once before.

Sign Marner 1 x $19M with a limited NTC. He gets bank for a year and allows the Leafs to acquire assets at the TDL.

It would obviously mean a step back for a season.

How'd it go?

 

[Americanadian]

That Marchand contract, if true, should get Tre fired immediately.

 

[Rare Jewel]

That Marchand contract, if true, should get Tre fired immediately.

I like the idea of getting him and I think he could help, but yeah, if it's that contract, it's going to be a bit of a mess...

 

[Americanadian]

I like the idea of getting him and I think he could help, but yeah, if it's that contract, it's going to be a bit of a mess...

Agree. Anything past 6.5M on a 4 year deal I’d walk. Just not worth it to take a player to 41.

 

[Clark4Ever]

I'm torn on Marchand. I want him on the Leafs but I was hoping for 7 x 3.

He's obviously going to have other potential suitors which is going to drive the price and term up. It's risky at his age.

 

[notbias]

Poor Michie, he won’t be getting a NMC if he wants to playing Vegas, they don’t tied their hands with those perks……

Multiple players on Vegas have NTCs/NMCs.....

 

[Canada4Gold]

You would kick the bonus money to the next year in overages, and with the cap going up, it would be less of a strain.

Also, if he doesn't achieve the bonus, for whatever reason, the cap hit will hopefully be less of an issue because if it's an injury issue, I don't think we can bury him on LTIR, given that he signed over the age of 35.

You can only do performances bonuses on a 35+ player if it's a 1 year contract.

Also I don't really see how that helps. Lets say it was 4 years x 9 million with 6 million salary and 3 in performance bonuses that just becomes a contract with 6 million cap hit the first year followed by 3 years of 9 million and then 3 million once he's gone assuming he hits the bonuses and the overage wouldnt be LTIRable if he got injured.

Performance Bonuses shall be allowable under thisAgreement only for:

(i) Players with Entry Level SPCs under Article9 of this Agreement;

(ii) Players aged 35 or older as of June 30 prior to the League Year in which the SPC is to be effective, whohave signed a one-year SPC for that League Year; and

(iii) Players who are "400-plus game Players" forpension purposes, and who:
(i) in the last year of their mostrecent SPC, spent 100 days or more on the Injured ReserveList; and
(ii) have signed a one-year SPC for the current or upcoming League Year.

 

[namttebih]

How'd it go?

The question? Positively for the most part, but as I said, I'm not holding my breath.

Marners pros:
-essentialy gets a $6M raise for a year
-somewhat repairs his legacy in his home town - if he cares.
Cons:
-risk of injury
-wouldn't have total autonomy on his choice of city

Leafs pros:
-Enables a return on their asset

Cons:
-cripples the cap short term.

Just spitballing obviously.

 

[SprDaVE]

I mean, is it a lot different than trading a 13th overall pick to move Marleau, signing Mrazek trading back in the draft to fix it and then trading a 2nd for Lyubushkin/to get rid of our Ritchie signing?

Marchment for Malgin?

The biggest thing that Tree has done that wasn't good has been Laughton...I liked him as a winger but not as a 3C solution.

Let's see what actually happens and then judge.

Opinions will change with new information. Right now, it's looking really bad.

A lot of good and bad over the years, sure.

Treliving still hasn't made an offseason roster trade since being here.

 

[notbias]

Marchment for Malgin?

Anyone who says this should not be allowed to comment on playoff performances and people not producing well.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

I’d do 9M x 4 for Marchand. That’s what it would take…

Keep him for 2-3 years. And then retain 50% and someone will still take him.. hopefully with 3 cup wins under his belt.

 

[notbias]

I’d do 9M x 4 for Marchand. That’s what it would take…

Keep him for 2-3 years. And then retain 50% and someone will still take him.. hopefully with 3 cup wins under his belt.

I am very happy you have no say... that is an insane contract.

He was arguably not even the best player on his line.

He played great, but he was going up against 3rd liners, he is not getting that here, and unless he is next to Matthews, Lundell is likely better than whatever C we have here for him.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

I am very happy you have no say... that is an insane contract.

He was arguably not even the best player on his line.

He played great, but he was going up against 3rd liners, he is not getting that here, and unless he is next to Matthews, Lundell is likely better than whatever C we have here for him.

There’s really not much else available, especially nothing that will “change our DNA”.

I’d give Bennett 10M before March 9M, but don’t think the former is an option.

 

[notbias]

There’s really not much else available, especially nothing that will “change our DNA”.

I’d give Bennett 10M before March 9M, but don’t think the former is an option.

Signing a bad contract is worse than signing no contract.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Also I don't really see how that helps. Lets say it was 4 years x 9 million with 6 million salary and 3 in performance bonuses that just becomes a contract with 6 million cap hit the first year followed by 3 years of 9 million and then 3 million once he's gone assuming he hits the bonuses and the overage wouldnt be LTIRable if he got injured.

At that point, my idea was that the cap would be so high that an overage or even a buyout wouldn't be all that significant.

But anyway, it doesn't matter if you can't do multi-year deals with bonuses.

Thanks for providing more clarity.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Signing a bad contract is worse than signing no contract.

Landing a proven winner who can step it up in the playoffs is better than having cap space available and a worse team.

I’d be all for making a blockbuster trade where we don’t have to rely on free agency. But that ship long sailed when we already gutted all of our draft picks and have a shallow (if not the most shallow) prospect system.

 

[notbias]

Landing a proven winner who can step it up in the playoffs is better than having cap space available and a worse team.

Maroon is a proven winner more than Marchand, maybe they should give him that money?

Marchand didn't help Boston much recently.

He had to leave to win.

I’d be all for making a blockbuster trade where we don’t have to rely on free agency. But that ship long sailed when we already gutted all of our draft picks and have a shallow (if not the most shallow) prospect system.

$9 million x 4 for someone who is 37 is not the best move.

 

[Americanadian]

Not that I’m a huge fan of Tavares and think he needs to stay but if they sign Marchand to that contract or anything close then I’m walking for anything under 6M if I’m Tavares.