Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[TMLAM34]

Honestly maybe playing around some veterans like Matthews, Tavares, Rielly, etc, Zegras would have developed a better overall game. I definitely wouldn’t have been against giving him a shot, who knows he could have developed into a key offensive player.

Given our lack of quality draft picks, our bare prospect pool and having an aging NHL roster, that would have been a good player to bet on IMO.

 

[Dreakmur]

Well apparently Pietrangelo is going on LTIR because he can’t play anymore. Vegas doesn’t need to move anyone to make room for Marner.

Karlsson dreams are dead.

Even with Pietrangelo on LTIR, adding Marner at 14 million puts them in a rough spot. They'd probably still have to make room, but not 5.9.

 

[4thline]

OEL is probably a better candidate because his caphit gets too pricey if he slides to the 3rd pairing but they absolutely need to sign a pick moving D man to replace him if traded

Though, if one wanted to change the DNA of this team, adding Ekblad to the D and NOT trading anyone out is one hell of a reset priority wise and culturally.

McCabe-Ekblad
Rielly-Tanev
OEL-Carlo

Cost isn't *that* unreasonable under a 95 million dollar cap, but the F group would have to embrace a lunchpail mentality.

 

[TMLAM34]

Even with Pietrangelo on LTIR, adding Marner at 14 million puts them in a rough spot. They'd probably still have to make room, but not 5.9.

If Marner is going to Vegas, I don’t see him getting 14 million per. I see him matching the Rantanen contract at 12.5. That’s not to say he won’t get offers of 14 because I can see Anaheim being one of those teams that do.

 

[Gaberd2608]

If Marner is going to Vegas, I don’t see him getting 14 million per. I see him matching the Rantanen contract at 12.5. That’s not to say he won’t get offers of 14 because I can see Anaheim being one of those teams that do.

That will be good for a year until Eichel is ufa. If Marner is at $12.5 he is surely going to want more, especially since he will sign a year after Marner.

The only way Vegas can comfortably sign Marner is if Pietrangelo is on LTIR or traded imo. If he plays they are f***ed.

 

[Americanadian]

Even with Pietrangelo on LTIR, adding Marner at 14 million puts them in a rough spot. They'd probably still have to make room, but not 5.9.

They'll be fine with Marner at 12, which is probably where it lands. They might move Hague but that's it.

They would have:
Barbashev-Eichel-Marner
Dorofeyev-Hertl-Stone
Howden-Karlsson-X
X-Roy-Kolesar

Theodore-McNabb
Hanifin-Whitecloud
Hutton-Korczak

Hill
Schmid

With 6.39M to fill the last 2 spots. Probably Smith at 3RW for 3M and 1M 4LW.

Given Carolina's winger depth when they inevitably sign Ehlers they might send Carrier back to Vegas for 4LW.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

He had half as many hits in the playoffs as Mitch Marner.

He also played almost half of marner's ice time and had more goals.

 

[Avilaj07]

To Toronto-
Evander Kane
Jake Walman

To Edmonton-
Bobby Mcmann
Oliver Ekman Larsson

 

[CtrlAltDel]

No thanks on Mangiapane. Pass.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Do the Leafs not have anyone in the minors that could fill roster spots?

You can't just fill everY spot with AHL players.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

To Toronto-
Evander Kane
Jake Walman

To Edmonton-
Bobby Mcmann
Oliver Ekman Larsson

Edmonton doesn't touch that, not after the year Walman had for them.

 

[Torontonian]

OEL is probably a better candidate because his caphit gets too pricey if he slides to the 3rd pairing but they absolutely need to sign a pick moving D man to replace him if traded

I think it's going to be fine paying your bottom end guys 2.5m-3.5m in 1 to 2 years time. You're kind of eating it now for flexibility in the future.

 

[Americanadian]

I don't believe that Ekblad signs here, Yzerman will pay him whatever he wants to come home. Fabbro is really intriguing to me. If you can get Fabbro and Perbix at 7.5M (4.75+2.75 or 5+2.5) that would open the Leafs up to move Carlo and still have a strong right side at 12M total.

Surprisingly not a ton of teams have a need for 2RD. Buffalo needs one but they are unlikely to move with assets that Toronto would want like McLeod or Tuch for Carlo. Nashville seems like the most likely trade partner. They don't have a surplus of C's to swap but maybe it's a package around Evangelista+Sissons and the Leafs get a great 4C and a young 2/3RW. Nashville probable absorbs bad money to make a deal work too. Carlo+Kampf+Jarnkrok for Sissons+Evangelista would work.

 

[nuck]

Berube just has no interest in Robertson. I think Mangiapane could be an okay alternative to provide some much needed scoring depth plus he's got the past connections with Tre


Fair question, and I don't have an answer off the top of my head. But I'd imagine at least one top 9 vet C would shake loose (and probably more than one) with the Leafs dangling a fairly rare piece with a top 4 RHD with term

The laughton trade being a bit of a bust really makes this more irritating than it should. Two of the teams most moveable futures used to fill out the 4th line.....

No predictions with Laughton but he has had multiple years of pacing 35-40 points at around 16:00 TOI including last year with Philly. 13:00 a night with Jarn and Lorentz was an exile not an opportunity. They all played under their best together so I doubt they all get another chance I think he will be better prepared for Berube this camp and will give them more than the offensive void we just watched. I don't think there is any chance they go into the season pushing him down to #4 although I could see him and a player like Bjugstad or Frederic platooning at #3.. Most likely is they get JT back and look at a plug in the #4 spot.

I don't mind Mangiapane as a buy low option at all. Calgary didn't dump him because he was bad, they dumped him because he had a 35g season in a contract year playing 15:44 a night and got paid. I like him enough I would want him on more than a 2 year deal because I think the AAV could be too good to pass up.

 

[Trapper]

No predictions with Laughton but he has had multiple years of pacing 35-40 points at around 16:00 TOI including last year with Philly. 13:00 a night with Jarn and Lorentz was an exile not an opportunity. They all played under their best together so I doubt they all get another chance I think he will be better prepared for Berube this camp and will give them more than the offensive void we just watched. I don't think there is any chance they go into the season pushing him down to #4 although I could see him and a player like Bjugstad or Frederic platooning at #3.. Most likely is they get JT back and look at a plug in the #4 spot.

I don't mind Mangiapane as a buy low option at all. Calgary didn't dump him because he was bad, they dumped him because he had a 35g season in a contract year playing 15:44 a night and got paid. I like him enough I would want him on more than a 2 year deal because I think the AAV could be too good to pass up.

Laughton is already here, might as well give him a full year shot unless he gets us a clear upgrade in an area. We only have so many assets to try and upgrade, some players will need to fill in. Especially if JT wants 7 million, bye.

 

[Zero1]

Even with Pietrangelo on LTIR, adding Marner at 14 million puts them in a rough spot. They'd probably still have to make room, but not 5.9.

Vegas is not paying Marner $14+ mill AAV. That’s apparently his top destination and of course lower taxes so I can see him take less.

Unless the Kings or the Ducks throw a high-AAV, low term contract, he’s Vegas bound.

 

[BallardEra]

Rumours out there too that Marner might take a 2 year deal with a contender as well.

 

[Kiwi]

I honestly couldn't care less about defenseman, we need forwards who can put up some points and guys who can play center and not be black holes

Were about to lose 100 points, 175 if Tavares goes so we need to replace at least some of that production

 

[Trapper]

Vegas is not paying Marner $14+ mill AAV. That’s apparently his top destination and of course lower taxes so I can see him take less.

Unless the Kings or the Ducks throw a high-AAV, low term contract, he’s Vegas bound.

Does Nevada have the same take home as Texas. Marner should not be getting more than Rantanen is making.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

I honestly couldn't care less about defenseman, we need forwards who can put up some points and guys who can play center and not be black holes

Were about to lose 100 points, 175 if Tavares goes so we need to replace at least some of that production

"Guys, you're still trying to replace Giambi. I told you we can't do it, and we can't do it. Now, what we might be able to do is re-create him. Re-create him in the aggregate,"

I think I know the right guy for this moneypuck problem!

 

[Kiwi]

"Guys, you're still trying to replace Giambi. I told you we can't do it, and we can't do it. Now, what we might be able to do is re-create him. Re-create him in the aggregate,"


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I think I know the right guy for this moneypuck problem!

The problem is the Athletics were really good at what they did, something I'd never accuse Dubas of

 

[Americanadian]

If the Leafs sign Mangiapane they'll have Knies, McMann, Domi, Mangiapane, Laughton, Robertson who are all LS wingers. I'd hope that at least 2 or 3 of Laughton, McMann, Domi, Robertson are out the door.

 

[nuck]

Does Nevada have the same take home as Texas. Marner should not be getting more than Rantanen is making.

Slightly better actually.

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[Menzinger]

Does Nevada have the same take home as Texas. Marner should not be getting more than Rantanen is making.

The only way Vegas signs him is if it starts with a 12. Which is why I think we're starting to hear all the 'Marner may sign a short deal' stuff. Try to get a cup in the short term then sign the massive extension in '28 when the cap has exploded even higher.

 

[Nineteen67]

You can't just fill everY spot with AHL players.

There are only a couple of spots and it’s better than wasting money on FA.