Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Rare Jewel]

Friedman mentioning leafs could be looking at a defenseman for forward trade.

Morgan Rielly(5 years at 7.5 cap hit)for Nazem Kadri(4 years left at 7 cap hit)

I think there’s a chance Rielly uses his NTC but if he doesn’t it frees up a dman spot and gets us center depth. We can still and go sign Ekblad or another defenseman like Burns/Provorov/Orolov. Still have cap space to sign another center and add forward depth.

I think for him to waive, it has to be Vancouver, Seattle, or a no-tax area.

There's got to be some incentive for him to waive. I do, however, admire that he wants to stick it out. However, at this time, the coach wants one thing, and Rielly is not it.

I don't agree with it, but it is what it is...

 

[Ianturnedbull]

I think for him to waive, it has to be Vancouver, Seattle, or a no-tax area.

There's got to be some incentive for him to waive. I do, however, admire that he wants to stick it out. However, at this time, the coach wants one thing, and Rielly is not it.

I don't agree with it, but it is what it is...

What one thing does the coach want?

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Grow the league and make the teams profitable. What else could it be?

Fine, but why is he being dishonest about the tax situation?

 

[Kurtz]

Fine, but why is he being dishonest about the tax situation?

If he acknowledges it, he'd have to do something about it, and who wants to give themselves extra work?

Besides, it would hurt the American teams and help the Canadian teams, and that goes against his entire agenda.

 

[ULF_55]

Friedman mentioning leafs could be looking at a defenseman for forward trade.

Morgan Rielly(5 years at 7.5 cap hit)for Nazem Kadri(4 years left at 7 cap hit)

I think there’s a chance Rielly uses his NTC but if he doesn’t it frees up a dman spot and gets us center depth. We can still and go sign Ekblad or another defenseman like Burns/Provorov/Orolov. Still have cap space to sign another center and add forward depth.

So Brandon Carlo is from Colorado?

Necas has no protection.
Coyle 3 team NTC.

 

[ULF_55]

Fine, but why is he being dishonest about the tax situation?

His KnickName is Shingles.

 

[ACC1224]

Fine, but why is he being dishonest about the tax situation?

I haven’t really followed, what is he being dishonest about?

 

[ACC1224]

If he acknowledges it, he'd have to do something about it, and who wants to give themselves extra work?

Besides, it would hurt the American teams and help the Canadian teams, and that goes against his entire agenda.

I don’t think it works that way.
If enough Owners raised it as an issue he would look into it. I imagine they don’t feel it’s that big an issue. Obviously that could change.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Fine, but why is he being dishonest about the tax situation?

NHLPA is also saying it's not a problem, so expect nothing to happen with the next CBA.

 

[Americanadian]

So Brandon Carlo is from Colorado?

Necas has no protection.
Coyle 3 team NTC.

If the Leafs could/do land Ekblad I’d be looking to move Carlo to Nashville for Sissons and Barron. Nashville is desperate for RD and that would give the Leafs a solid 3RD for much cheaper and an elite 4C.

I’ve been thinking about where Carlo could go in a situation where Ekblad comes. The only teams I can think of besides Nashville are Tampa and Florida. Maybe Buffalo or Edmonton but Carlo does have 8-team trade protection.

 

[ACC1224]

NHLPA is also saying it's not a problem, so expect nothing to happen with the next CBA.

I think things are going well for both sides so they just want to get the thing signed with no fuss and kick everything else down the road.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

I haven’t really followed, what is he being dishonest about?

He said that there's no tax advantage. Then various people provided evidence/opinion that there is a tax advantage. You can google it and see the arguments for yourself.

 

[seanlinden]

Yes and no, Danault would be your matchup centerman. Not sure if having Nylander with him really makes sense given the defensive zone starts would definitely outweigh the offensive zone starts and he’s not very strong defensively. With Danault (who I don’t think is available), you’re probably playing him on a line with Laughton and signing Brown in free agency for a shutdown line. Laughton - Danault - Brown makes more sense IMO.

Objectively, I think you need somebody that can do both, with respect to playing with Nylander.

Somebody who is primarily a distributor, but who has a solid 2-way game. Somebody who will ensure that when Nylander does something stupid, he's there to help prevent the -1, but can also complement Nylander's offensive game and make them as effective as Tavares-Nylander were offensively.... but less of a potential liability defensively.

You look at Florida, and did they really have a shutdown line? I'm not so sure... they were happy to go best on best with Barkov... and as a Leaf fan, I'm certainly not afraid of a Matthews/Barkov matchup.

Beyond that, they had 2 really good 2-way lines. Bennetts with a bit more "punch" (both in scoring and phyiscality), Lundell's more around invisibility and backbreaking goals.

 

[Rare Jewel]

What one thing does the coach want?

Tall, rangy, aggressive guys who cover a lot of space.

 

[ULF_55]

Objectively, I think you need somebody that can do both, with respect to playing with Nylander.

Somebody who is primarily a distributor, but who has a solid 2-way game. Somebody who will ensure that when Nylander does something stupid, he's there to help prevent the -1, but can also complement Nylander's offensive game and make them as effective as Tavares-Nylander were offensively.... but less of a potential liability defensively.

You look at Florida, and did they really have a shutdown line? I'm not so sure... they were happy to go best on best with Barkov... and as a Leaf fan, I'm certainly not afraid of a Matthews/Barkov matchup.

Beyond that, they had 2 really good 2-way lines. Bennetts with a bit more "punch" (both in scoring and phyiscality), Lundell's more around invisibility and backbreaking goals.

I know he isn't a player that gets much love here, but this from when Dallas acquired him.

What Mikael Granlund could bring to the Dallas Stars (or any other team he's traded to)

A trade might be afoot, it if happens, what would the Stars new addition bring to dallas?

www.shapshotshockey.com

For the quick bio, he’s a left-handed Finnish center, who creates space well for others and has 45 points in 52 games this season for the struggling San Jose Sharks.

Granlund has been playing close to 20 minutes per night for San Jose, a reflection of how good (or bad) that team is, and plays a style that also fits in well defensively, it’s why Jere Lehtinen picked him the 4 Nations Tournament.

 

[Tony Romo]

I know he isn't a player that gets much love here, but this from when Dallas acquired him.

What Mikael Granlund could bring to the Dallas Stars (or any other team he's traded to)

A trade might be afoot, it if happens, what would the Stars new addition bring to dallas?

www.shapshotshockey.com

For the quick bio, he’s a left-handed Finnish center, who creates space well for others and has 45 points in 52 games this season for the struggling San Jose Sharks.

Granlund has been playing close to 20 minutes per night for San Jose, a reflection of how good (or bad) that team is, and plays a style that also fits in well defensively, it’s why Jere Lehtinen picked him the 4 Nations Tournament.

If Tavares doesn't come back (which it's starting to seem like that could be possible) Signing Granlund and acquiring Danault somehow would be incredible.

 

[Gaberd2608]

I think if we were to get out from Rielly, I'd prefer to go after Provorov over Ekblad.

Unless we were to move OEL or Carlo in a trade. If we signed Ekblad our third pairing would be for a combined 6.9m with OEL - Carlo

Can we sign Ekblad and Provorov and trade McCabe and one of Carlo, Benoit, or OEL?

Rielly. Ekblad
Provorov Tanev
Benoit. OEL

I know he isn't a player that gets much love here, but this from when Dallas acquired him.

What Mikael Granlund could bring to the Dallas Stars (or any other team he's traded to)

A trade might be afoot, it if happens, what would the Stars new addition bring to dallas?

www.shapshotshockey.com

For the quick bio, he’s a left-handed Finnish center, who creates space well for others and has 45 points in 52 games this season for the struggling San Jose Sharks.

Granlund has been playing close to 20 minutes per night for San Jose, a reflection of how good (or bad) that team is, and plays a style that also fits in well defensively, it’s why Jere Lehtinen picked him the 4 Nations Tournament.

I would take my chances on him. At the very least he is something different so the outcome may possibly different. I think him and Nylander would be great together.

If Tavares wanted to still sign we could still sign him.

 

[Mitch nylander]

Yea I don't like any of these ideas. I'd stay away from Ekblad - he'll be overpaid and won't age well.

I think I'd move Rielly for a forward - similar cap hit/value, maybe someone like Zibanejad. Sign a Beauvillier + Marchand + Gavrikov for the price of Marner. I'd move Kampf for picks as well.

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Pacioretty - Zibanejad - Nylander
Marchand - Tavares - Beauvillier
Holmberg - Laughton - Jarnkrok

McCabe - Tanev
Gavrikov - Carlo
OEL - Benoit

Stolarz
Woll

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[TheMadHatTrick]

I don't know how you change the DNA of this team without getting rid of Rielly. He's never been good defensively, so if he's not providing offense that I don't know what he's giving us for 7.5 million.

 

[Tony Romo]

Can we sign Ekblad and Provorov and trade McCabe and one of Carlo, Benoit, or OEL?

Rielly. Ekblad
Provorov Tanev
Benoit. OEL



I would take my chances on him. At the very least he is something different so the outcome may possibly different. I think him and Nylander would be great together.

If Tavares wanted to still sign we could still sign him.

It'd be super tight.

Let's say you get rid of McCabe + Carlo That's 7.9m out the door. Ekblad and Provorov will probably cost 7.5m - 8m each. So McCabe + Carlo would get you one. Before any other moves you'd have 17m if you sign both.

 

[mcleex]

I don't know how you change the DNA of this team without getting rid of Rielly. He's never been good defensively, so if he's not providing offense that I don't know what he's giving us for 7.5 million.

Also has a terrible point shot which is highly valuable in this league. His game needs to be like Evan Bouchard

 

[nuck]

NHLPA is also saying it's not a problem, so expect nothing to happen with the next CBA.

I think the problem is, that if there is any restriction/penalty on low tax states it affects those club's ability to spend. Under the existing system a low tax team that actually spends to the cap enriches players more than a high tax team doing it. More after tax money potentially in players wallets right? The fact they don't all spend to the cap doesn't make the NHPA any more receptive to anything that theoretically limits members earnings. It would be like reducing the players share in the low tax states.

So if they instead said they would give relief to the high tax jurisdictions the players union would like that because it is increasing the owners total spend. But lower income franchises become less profitable if they have to shell out more to compete with the rich clubs so they would fight it. The Rangers, Leafs and Kings are the richest and all in the highest taxed areas so they would bid up every other club and the low income teams like the Jets, Sens and CBJ would be squeezed harder so they would fight tooth and nail against a solution that.

I think there's probably a compromise that would make things a little better but if the commish isn't behind it nothing can happen.

 

[ULF_55]

Yea I don't like any of these ideas. I'd stay away from Ekblad - he'll be overpaid and won't age well.

I think I'd move Rielly for a forward - similar cap hit/value, maybe someone like Zibanejad. Sign a Beauvillier + Marchand + Gavrikov for the price of Marner. I'd move Kampf for picks as well.

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Pacioretty - Zibanejad - Nylander
Marchand - Tavares - Beauvillier
Holmberg - Laughton - Jarnkrok

McCabe - Tanev
Gavrikov - Carlo
OEL - Benoit

Stolarz
Woll

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I'd like to move Matthews and Carlo for the Hughes brother in New Jersey.
Re-sign Luke for 4*$5mm, take him to age 25.

That balances the dollars for Matthews, and leaves $7.5mm

That leaves enough for Bennett or Marchand.

Sign Quinn in 2 years.

Move Rielly for Andersson, Flames might be having issues re-signing Rasmus.

Just ignoring the NMC's but Matthews gets to play for Keefe again.

 

[The Shadow]

I'd like to move Matthews and Carlo for the Hughes brother in New Jersey.
Re-sign Luke for 4*$5mm, take him to age 25.

That balances the dollars for Matthews, and leaves $7.5mm

That leaves enough for Bennett or Marchand.

Sign Quinn in 2 years.

Move Rielly for Andersson, Flames might be having issues re-signing Rasmus.

Just ignoring the NMC's but Matthews gets to play for Keefe again.

Hughes was invisible at the 4Nations. I don’t see him being that playoff dog we need. Toronto loses this trade by quite a bit

 

[ULF_55]

Hughes was invisible at the 4Nations. I don’t see him being that playoff dog we need. Toronto loses this trade by quite a bit

21 year old Luke Hughes had 44 points this year.

I don't care about the 4Nations, nor the Olympics.