Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Rare Jewel]

Most of the suggestions being posted here make the team worse, in my opinion.

Feel free to chime in with ideas.

 

[Rare Jewel]

If you can get Hughes, with commitment, for Nylander and Rielly then it's a no brainer.

I am skeptical about the Hughes commitment. I am also skeptical Nylander waives for Vancouver if Hughes is on the way out and they have no chance of making the playoffs.

Well, they do have a Swedish GM who could try.

Also, not many people are bigger fans of Rielly than Rutherford.

 

[Americanadian]

This would be disastrous.

Ekblad is beyond washed, and likely going to be significantly overpaid.

I also thought Ekblad was washed but he was excellent playing 23 minutes/night for the team that just won back to back cups. He is the same age as Nylander and his contract would end at the same time as Nylander. I wouldn't be as hesitant as I was prior to the playoffs in bringing him in at 8.5M. Is overpaying Ekblad by 2M that bad when you are getting rid of Nylander who is overpaid by 2M?

CIrelliy albeit is a good 2c, but you're looking at a slightly better offensively version of Matt Stajan.

Yes, Matt Stajan when he was playing C for Canada in best on best play. This is a crazy take. Cirelli is legitimately an elite defensive C who just scored 27 goals this season. He has 2 cups to his name and he's signed for 6.25M for 6 more seasons. For the value on contract alone he is more valuable than Nylander. He would fit like a glove in Toronto and give them the best C depth in the league.

Huge step back. You can't lose two 100 point players in Nylander and Marner, and expect to have good results.

Nylander has never scored 100 points. The Panthers just won back to back cups with no one touching 100 points. The Leafs still have Matthews who can score 100 points when healthy. Please refer to the original proposed trade and roster.

 

[LeafSteel]

Most of the suggestions being posted here make the team worse, in my opinion.

I’m with you on this.

So much pie in the sky wishful thinking, and it’s really not my thing.

Beyond the odd post that share a trade or or updates from sources like Friedman, not really reading much of anything on this thread anymore.

Waiting patiently for the Draft and UFA to see what happens.

Cheers

 

[JEI]

I think they need to be more creative to solve some of their problems. Our D looks 'set', but I like both Prebix and Ekblad over some of the guys we have currently, and I would then try and a flip a defenseman or two to fill a void at C if possible or try to land a 2nd line winger. I'm assuming Tavares comes back as 2nd line centre and Domi bumps up besides Matthews as they look to establish more of a shut-down 3rd line to free up more offensive zone time for Matthews line.

Maybe in such a case an OEL becomes expendable. He's older (but not too old), but had a good year where he has value on his contract. Maybe you package him another player or a pick or prospect to land someone who can fill in the middle-six.

Granted I don't anticipate much creativity from this management group, I'm hoping they prove me wrong.

 

[Rob Brown]

I think they need to be more creative to solve some of their problems. Our D looks 'set', but I like both Prebix and Ekblad over some of the guys we have currently, and I would then try and a flip a defenseman or two to fill a void at C if possible or try to land a 2nd line winger. I'm assuming Tavares comes back as 2nd line centre and Domi bumps up besides Matthews as they look to establish more of a shut-down 3rd line to free up more offensive zone time for Matthews line.

Maybe in such a case an OEL becomes expendable. He's older (but not too old), but had a good year where he has value on his contract. Maybe you package him another player or a pick or prospect to land someone who can fill in the middle-six.

Granted I don't anticipate much creativity from this management group, I'm hoping they prove me wrong.

Yeah I just think the creativity has to happen up front. The D feels set like you said and wasn't the problem in the playoffs really, so we need to do something to change the feel of the forward group.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

I’m with you on this.

So much pie in the sky wishful thinking, and it’s really not my thing.

Beyond the odd post that share a trade or or updates from sources like Friedman, not really reading much of anything on this thread anymore.

Waiting patiently for the Draft and UFA to see what happens.

Cheers

I think we're mostly just bored. You get a small rush from coming up with a trade that you think works.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

I would think the trade would be better if you excluded Kane and brought back O'Reilly. Would you rather Kane or Marchand in UFA?

Definitely Marchand. Kane would be my second choice after him though. Unless Tre has a better idea for getting good players and not losing Cowan.

Don't mind the O'Reilly idea.

 

[Americanadian]

Definitely Marchand. Kane would be my second choice after him though. Unless Tre has a better idea for getting good players and not losing Cowan.

Don't mind the O'Reilly idea.

Kane scares me because he's so bad defensively. Ideally you only have 1 of Domi and Kane on the roster. If the Leafs could move Domi for Kane I'd be up for it but I wouldn't take him on for free.

In a perfect world for me they run Knies-Marchand-Laughton as 1-3LW and they bring in actual RW's to play 1&3 RW.

 

[LeafSteel]

I think we're mostly just bored. You get a small rush from coming up with a trade that you think works.

More than fair and I get it.

If it makes folks happy, I say go for it. Happiness that doesn’t hurt anyone seems to be a shortage in this world today.

It’s not my thing though. I just read for any updates when I need to take a break from yelling at the clouds.

Cheers

 

[Brobust]

Anthony Mantha is good reclamation project, IMO. Obviously some issues there, but I think Berube can figure him out.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Anthony Mantha is good reclamation project, IMO. Obviously some issues there, but I think Berube can figure him out.

Yep, that's the guy I've been saying for a few weeks

 

[The Shadow]

Carter Hart once the court verdict is in and he’s not guilty would be a great target

Other targets:

Forward:
- Cody Glass RFA
- Tanner Jeannot UFA
- Brad Marchand UFA

Defense:
- Ekblad (need to move out Rielly)

 

[Brobust]

Carter Hart once the court verdict is in and he’s not guilty would be a great target

Other targets:

Forward:
- Cody Glass RFA
- Tanner Jeannot UFA
- Brad Marchand UFA

Defense:
- Ekblad (need to move out Rielly)

A little old, but they should look at Mike Danton too.

 

[Brobust]

Veleno off the table.

 

[SprDaVE]

I think they need to be more creative to solve some of their problems. Our D looks 'set', but I like both Prebix and Ekblad over some of the guys we have currently, and I would then try and a flip a defenseman or two to fill a void at C if possible or try to land a 2nd line winger. I'm assuming Tavares comes back as 2nd line centre and Domi bumps up besides Matthews as they look to establish more of a shut-down 3rd line to free up more offensive zone time for Matthews line.

Maybe in such a case an OEL becomes expendable. He's older (but not too old), but had a good year where he has value on his contract. Maybe you package him another player or a pick or prospect to land someone who can fill in the middle-six.

Granted I don't anticipate much creativity from this management group, I'm hoping they prove me wrong.

Should be interesting how they navigate it. So far its looking grim. I fully expect most of the team to stay in tact with a few free agents loaded in

 

[Americanadian]

Veleno off the table.

You can’t take fan analysis as gospel but Wings fans and Hawks fans couldn’t wait to get Veleno off their team.

 

[Tony Romo]

I think if we were to get out from Rielly, I'd prefer to go after Provorov over Ekblad.

Unless we were to move OEL or Carlo in a trade. If we signed Ekblad our third pairing would be for a combined 6.9m with OEL - Carlo

 

[Brobust]

You can’t take fan analysis as gospel but Wings fans and Hawks fans couldn’t wait to get Veleno off their team.

Frankly, I know very little about Veleno other than his international suspension. I'd like that kind of play against the Panthers.

 

[Budz]

Take a run at Dobson.
Trade another D man or 2.

 

[keonsbitterness]

A little old, but they should look at Mike Danton too.

The 44 year-old guy with a very checkered past? Seriously?

 

[rumman]

Carter Hart once the court verdict is in and he’s not guilty would be a great target

Other targets:

Forward:
- Cody Glass RFA
- Tanner Jeannot UFA
- Brad Marchand UFA

Defense:
- Ekblad (need to move out Rielly)

Imo none of those players will be not guilty regardless of what the laws says, that girl might of been full on nuts, but their behaviour was inexcusable. There’s no right way to do the wrong thing, if your content having that kind of player on the Leafs have at it, but I think they’re all deplorable for what they participated and/or witnessed…….

 

[ULF_55]

If the team is competitive, I'd like our chances of retaining him. He spent a lot of his youth here, so...

Also, I wouldn't rule out Rielly also being part of the deal as well, and if you're getting Hughes, you would find a way to make the other parts work.

Then you've only done half the deal.

Vancouver: Nylander for Hughes (+ / - both sides)
New Jersey: Matthews for Hughes (+ / - both sides)


Now just have to find the deal for Hughes, and should be able to lock them up long term.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

I think if we were to get out from Rielly, I'd prefer to go after Provorov over Ekblad.

Unless we were to move OEL or Carlo in a trade. If we signed Ekblad our third pairing would be for a combined 6.9m with OEL - Carlo

Provorov would be a great addition. He was a real work horse for Columbus and has some offensive upside.

 

[JTK1967]

Leafs problems aren’t with the “bottom six” whoever that ends up being, it’s with the core, always has been, always will be until they are moved elsewhere. This is so ridiculous, imagine your going broke and you blame it on the phone bill and not the mortgage that’s bleeding you dry. Sheer madness……….

Didn't say the top 6 isn't in need of improvement, but the easiest place in F.A to find value is in lower contracts.
I.E you sign Jeannout, if he meshes well and goes back to where he was a few years ago (300+ hits, +-20G, +-40 points) you might be getting 4+m in value for a guy your paying sub 2m. If he just keeps being a 10-10 hard hitting forechecker, you haven't overpaid him at all.

Does a Bastian - Laughton - Jeannot line do more for you from a flow perspective than what we had last year? For (I believe) less than Kampf and Jarnkrok you get a much more purpose built piss missile line. Both big bodies who throw a ton of hits, can fight, and have upside.