Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Rare Jewel]

Mirtle: "The Leafs are hyper focused on getting a center and filling out the top 9 forwards."

Source: The Leaf Report Podcast

Rating: 5/10 (not so elite)

Wasn't that what the Laughton trade was supposed to do, Brad?

 

[Americanadian]

They have a need in net. We have a surplus in net. Makes sense for them to use an asset to acquire a need and we're doing the same

First plus more is what I'd like prospect or second is ideal given his contract and the lack of options

Their next 1st is in 2027, their next 2nd is in 2026. They do have Savoie and O'Reilly. Maybe there's a collection of assets there but no draft picks that the Leafs can turn into prospects any time soon.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I am hyper focused on waking up in the morning, and seeing they haven't dropped the bomb in my neighourhood.

I hope they mean in addition to Tavares.

They need to sign 2 centers.

Two, hopefully

One to replace JT, another to do what Laughton was supposed to do.

 

[ULF_55]

Two, hopefully

One to replace JT, another to do what Laughton was supposed to do.

That would require trades, not free agents.

Maybe they should sign 4 centers all around $5mm each, and see if two of them work out?

There just might be some untapped potential in the free agents everyone is turning their nose up on?

Heck, I think they could get 4 for about $10mm.

Faksa
Sturm
Kunin
Dvorak

WTF.

Have enough left to bid on Boeser.

 

[Gallagbi]

Their next 1st is in 2027, their next 2nd is in 2026. They do have Savoie and O'Reilly. Maybe there's a collection of assets there but no draft picks that the Leafs can turn into prospects any time soon.

All sound like a decent option.

I like Stolarz but it's likely a luxury/asset we're wasting

 

[Americanadian]

All sound like a decent option.

I like Stolarz but it's likely a luxury/asset we're wasting

I agree that having one of Stolarz or Woll as a back up is a wasted asset. I just think Stolarz is better and Woll returns more in a trade.

 

[Menzinger]

I am hyper focused on waking up in the morning, and seeing they haven't dropped the bomb in my neighourhood.

I hope they mean in addition to Tavares.

They need to sign 2 centers.

Yep. They're going to have to trade for at least 1 (if not both too).

I wouldn't get too comfortable penciling Cowan into any mock lineups. If they go the trade route some stuff of value is going the other way, even assuming they're targeting a reclamation project

They've got Florida's 2nd, and a 3rd round pick. Cowan/Danford and then roster guys like Carlo/OEL/Woll/McMann/Laughton - some combination of those is out the door

 

[Americanadian]

I'm grasping at straws here while watching this game. Mangiapane-Henrique-Brown were awesome together for Canada at the world championships in 2021. Henrique could probably had for free or close to that this summer given Edmonton's cap troubles. Mangiapane and Brown will both be UFAs and will probably cost ~6M total. That could be an interesting 3rd line or even a 4th line depending on how deep Tre is willing to build a team. Obviously all 3 players are 4 years older and we're talking about a 7 game sample.

 

[Menzinger]

I'm grasping at straws here while watching this game. Mangiapane-Henrique-Brown were awesome together for Canada at the world championships in 2021. Henrique could probably had for free or close to that this summer given Edmonton's cap troubles. Mangiapane and Brown will both be UFAs and will probably cost ~6M total. That could be an interesting 3rd line or even a 4th line depending on how deep Tre is willing to build a team. Obviously all 3 players are 4 years older and we're talking about a 7 game sample.

I expect Mangiapane to be a target of Tre's at minimum given their history. Probably a decent probability he's a Leaf

 

[Rare Jewel]

That would require trades, not free agents.

Maybe they should sign 4 centers all around $5mm each, and see if two of them work out?

There just might be some untapped potential in the free agents everyone is turning their nose up on?

Donato is likely the best fit from the under-30 group.

However, looking for players who need a change or teams that are willing to make money moves to create cap space for someone else is what they should be focusing on.

Danault is one I'd really like to get, but LA is an awkward partner. So, perhaps J.G. Pageau?

Is Seattle content with Stephenson? What about Vegas with Karlson or even Roy and Howden?

Possibly even ROR or Kadri reunions as well.

 

[Americanadian]

I expect Mangiapane to be a target of Tr less at minimum given their history. Probably a decent probability he's a Leaf

I worry about him even though I just proposed bringing him on 5 minutes ago.

I used to think he was more of a water bug type where he hit everything that moved and skated like the wind which made up for his lack of size but neither of those things are true. He's just a small guy with average speed who throws a few hits and doesn't really score a lot. I have faith he can produce closer to his career averages but I don't have faith he will ever produce in the playoffs.

 

[Tony Romo]

 

[ULF_55]

Donato is likely the best fit from the under-30 group.

However, looking for players who need a change or teams that are willing to make money moves to create cap space for someone else is what they should be focusing on.

Danault is one I'd really like to get, but LA is an awkward partner. So, perhaps J.G. Pageau?

Is Seattle content with Stephenson? What about Vegas with Karlson or even Roy and Howden?

Possibly even ROR or Kadri reunions as well.

The guys you mention probably out of the Leafs snack bracket.

Donato should be signed as a 15 goal, 30 point player.

One offs, are like Clarkson or Jeannot fluke seasons are horrible signings.

 

[Americanadian]

Donato is likely the best fit from the under-30 group.

However, looking for players who need a change or teams that are willing to make money moves to create cap space for someone else is what they should be focusing on.

Danault is one I'd really like to get, but LA is an awkward partner. So, perhaps J.G. Pageau?

Is Seattle content with Stephenson? What about Vegas with Karlson or even Roy and Howden?

Possibly even ROR or Kadri reunions as well.

The idea of Donato-Nylander 2nd line scares me. You'd need a significant defensive presence at LW.

 

[Tony Romo]

compared to Torontos

 

[Rare Jewel]

The idea of Donato-Nylander 2nd line scares me. You'd need a significant defensive presence at LW.

Someone like Robinson could fit that, but yeah, it's not preferred. Also, it's usually too difficult to get Americans to sign up here anyway unless you drastically overpay or they come from another Canadian team.

Danault would be the top choice for me, but Pageau is a good alternative.

Actually, finding a good defensive winger and stapling him to Domi would make him a viable candidate for the 3rd C spot, at least for one year.

 

[ULF_55]

compared to Torontos

Even Strength TOI/g
McMann - $1.35mm
Jarnkrok - $2.1mm
Lorentz - $.775mm

 

[Gallagbi]

I agree that having one of Stolarz or Woll as a back up is a wasted asset. I just think Stolarz is better and Woll returns more in a trade.

I'm fine with moving either personally, whatever makes the most sense on return

 

[Americanadian]

Actually, finding a good defensive winger and stapling him to Domi would make him a viable candidate for the 3rd C spot, at least for one year.

You'd need an elite 3rd player on that line to make it viable.

 

[TMLAM34]

To Toronto: Martin Pospisil
To Calgary: Simon Benoit + Pontus Holmberg

To Toronto: Cole Sillinger
To Columbus: Joseph Woll + Bobby McMann

To Toronto: Tyler Bertuzzi
To Chicago: Nick Robertson + 3rd Round Draft Pick


UFA SIGNINGS:
Andrew Mangiapane - 3 years, 3 million per
Brandon Tanev - 5 years, 2.25 million per
Taylor Raddysh - 2 years, 1.75 million per
Dan Vladar - 2 years, 2.25 million per


Bertuzzi(5.5) - Matthews(13.25) - Domi(3.75)
Knies(7.2) - Sillinger(2.25) - Nylander(11.5)
Mangiapane(3) - Tavares(4.5) - Pospisil(1)
Tanev(2.25) - Laughton(1.5) - Raddysh(1.75)
Pacioretty(0.85)

Rielly(7.5) - Carlo(3.49)
McCabe(4.51) - Tanev(4.5)
Ekman Larsson(3.5) - Fabbro(4.5)
Myers(0.85)

Stolarz(2.5) - Vladar(2.25)

Cap Hit: 91.9
Cap Space: 3.6

 

[LaPlante94]

compared to Torontos

If we went into the season with Floridas 4th line people would still complain about their offensive numbers. They each only have 3 points the entire playoffs which isn't really that much better than ours and ours is a problem.

 

[ULF_55]

You'd need an elite 3rd player on that line to make it viable.

You don't think Pacioretty is the answer?

To Toronto: Tyler Bertuzzi
To Chicago: Nick Robertson + 3rd Round Draft Pick

Hawks are talking Bertuzzi buy-out.
No reason to trade assets unless they are majorly retaining.

 

[Menzinger]

Wonder how much the Oilers would pay for Woll. They will desperately need goaltending help (whether or not their front office realizes that is another matter) and they are obsessed with acquiring former Leafs.

Probably could get a 1st. Not sure what their prospect pool likes

 

[Americanadian]

You don't think Pacioretty is the answer?

So long as the question is: "most likely Leaf to retire"

Hawks are talking Bertuzzi buy-out.
No reason to trade assets unless they are majorly retaining.

They are not talking about buying him out. A fan wrote that in a blog.

 

[Americanadian]

Wonder how much the Oilers would pay for Woll. They will desperately need goaltending help (whether or not their front office realizes that is another matter) and they are obsessed with acquiring former Leafs.

Probably could get a 1st. Not sure what their prospect pool likes

The 1st would be in 2027. Sam O'Reilly would be a good target though. I wonder if the Leafs could get O'Reilly for McMann straight up.