Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Fogelhund]

I dont disagree with you for the most part. Ideally you want that perfect balance.

However I think its obvious one of the extremes is better than the other. And after watching 9 years of the fraud 4 fall into the former category, I'd happily take someone like Miller from the latter category.

Zibanejad since we're on the topic falls into the former as well.

No extreme is good.

Zbad is a pretty good playoffs guy... 24 points in 20 games a couple of years ago... he's been far better than Miller, who is a .6 PPG playoff guy, who has regularly underperformed.

 

[Tony Romo]

No extreme is good.

Zbad is a pretty good playoffs guy... 24 points in 20 games a couple of years ago... he's been far better than Miller, who is a .6 PPG playoff guy... he's regularly underperformed.

Miller is the worst playoff performer of the "fraud" 4 and Zbad.

This is also coming from someone who wanted the Leafs to acquire Miller because I thought we could use his talent and it was potentially going to be a good deal for a trade.

 

[mydnyte]

Chytil, Krieder, Trouba, Goodrow...

If they want to move Lafrenière, we should be into that. reminds me of Nylander but taller and physical in the playoffs.
He would be a great pickup.

 

[JKG33]

No extreme is good.

Zbad is a pretty good playoffs guy... 24 points in 20 games a couple of years ago... he's been far better than Miller, who is a .6 PPG playoff guy, who has regularly underperformed.

Zib used to be good a few years ago. He's a passenger now

 

[Martin Skoula]

If you get a couple mil retained on Zib it’s probably worth the risk, he’s not a play driver but he at least gives us a 4th guy with a non-muffin shot. You can’t skate the puck into the net.

 

[rumman]

There's the tell.

More heart, that’s a fact……

 

[Tony Romo]

More heart, that’s a fact……

Sweet. His more heart leads to him being a worst playoff performer. Glad it does a lot though!

 

[Fogelhund]

If they want to move Lafrenière, we should be into that. reminds me of Nylander but taller and physical in the playoffs.
He would be a great pickup.

The type of return that they'd ask for, likely takes us out of that market.

 

[rumman]

Sweet. His more heart leads to him being a worst playoff performer. Glad it does a lot though!

At least he didn’t throw his teammates under the bus…….

 

[mydnyte]

Before Treliving traded for Laughton you and I were both in agreement that Laughton's 1 5th place Selke vote was a joke and he was not a good defensive C. Did his time in Toronto change your opinion?

We are also both in agreement that Zibanejad's defensive game fell off a cliff last season. He had 1 5th place Selke vote in 23-24 which truly means nothing. He finished 15th in voting 3 years ago, 16th 2 years ago.

Matthews can absolutely anchor a shutdown line but is that the best use of his talent?

irrelevant, Matthews by being the #1C will always be lined up vs the other teams best line, save the odd home game faceoffs.
he is a shutdown C by default.
Barkov is Florida's shutdown C too.

 

[Tony Romo]

At least he didn’t throw his teammates under the bus…….

What? JT Miller literally got traded because he was a bad teammate.

 

[Trapper]

Why would Zibanejad want to come here?

Because NY doesn’t want him. Toronto might think he’s valuable to them with Marner leaving and an actual confirmed linemate to play with in Nylander.

 

[Martin Skoula]

At least he didn’t throw his teammates under the bus…….

Other than screaming at his goalies after his 5th lazy backcheck of the game.

 

[The Shadow]

One thing is guaranteed

There will be a lot of over reactions and hot takes when Tre signs some guys or makes trades

All you have to do is scroll the OEL thread among others to see people that are quick to be negative without giving things a chance

Many of Tre’s acquisitions have worked out well so far

 

[mydnyte]

The type of return that they'd ask for, likely takes us out of that market.

Drury is an odd duck though, we'd need to toss and see if anything stuck

 

[Trapper]

no one's a free agent until July first...........

I’m willing to let Marner start now…

 

[rumman]

What? JT Miller literally got traded because he was a bad teammate.

Your clueless, more like had enough of EP’s indifference to winning…….

 

[Tony Romo]

Your clueless, more like had enough of EP’s indifference to winning…….

JT Miller, noted 0.61 PPG in the playoffs is a big time winner. Yes, I'm clueless.

 

[Tony Romo]

You would think JT Miller has the career resume of Brad Marchand with the way people are talking about him and I'm a big fan of him!

 

[mydnyte]

Other than screaming at his goalies after his 5th lazy backcheck of the game.

get him, then add DeAngelo and have a team that bitches at everyone (on their on team) Nylander also has that one time on the bench with Marner, that was fun too.

 

[Gaberd2608]

no one's a free agent until July first.........

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Matthews, Nylander, and Rielly have a contract for next season hense their count against the cap. Marner and Tavares do not have a contract for next season from the Leafs so they do not count against the cap next season. Should they get extended then, yes, they will also but I think it is a forgone conclusion that Marner is gone. I am worried about Tavares coming back but hopefully Brad plays hard ball with him.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

One thing is guaranteed

There will be a lot of over reactions and hot takes when Tre signs some guys or makes trades

All you have to do is scroll the OEL thread among others to see people that are quick to be negative without giving things a chance

Many of Tre’s acquisitions have worked out well so far

Very true, as far as free agent

Bertuzzi - W
Domi - W
Benoit - Massive W (for the price)
OEL/Tanev - W Tanev is the best player back there lol
Stolarz - massive W
Reaves - Ehhh perhaps an L
Lorentz - W

The Laughton trade I don't like. Don't like kampf signing. Those weren't new UFA signings though

 

[rumman]

JT Miller, noted 0.61 PPG in the playoffs is a big time winner. Yes, I'm clueless.

Pretty close to Mathews numbers no?

 

[Tony Romo]

Pretty close to Mathews numbers no?

Matthews has 3 more points in 23 less games and I know this comment was probably made tongue in cheek but like.... dude.

 

[Fogelhund]

Pretty close to Mathews numbers no?

No.