Roster Building/Team Building/Future Trade/Drafting thread.

[Torontonian]

(There's an argument many Leafs fans don't want to hear for signing Marner and moving Nylander, asset and team composition wise.)

This is pretty much I think the play, if Toronto wanted to salvage some assets from this "DNA change". Trade Nylander and resign Marner.

 

[ULF_55]

I don't think there's any argument to be made for trading a 1C, who averages 45goals per season. This fanbase is very spoiled and forgets how every team wants a big 1C who plays great in his own end as well.

So every team will overpay for "a big 1C ..."?

I'd be okay with a better team.

Leafs are a very good example where having that particular 1C doesn't win anything.

 

[Torontonian]

So every team will overpay for "a big 1C ..."?

I'd be okay with a better team.

Leafs are a very good example where having that particular 1C doesn't win anything.

They might, They might also be left with another hole at 1C as they won't be getting one back.

I think you tend to forget, Matthews is just entering his prime.. He's 27. not 35. If Toronto is lucky to keep him for his entire career, they still have another 9 more years of going for it and winning.

He shown great strides playing a well rounded game, probably his best season as a two way centerman, now he needs to score a bit more in the playoffs.

 

[weems]

What would a trade return on Nylander look like?

It would be interesting to see the fanbases reaction if that sequence played out (Mitch re-signed and Willy traded).

 

[ULF_55]

They might, They might also be left with another hole at 1C as they won't be getting one back.

I think you tend to forget, Matthews is just entering his prime.. He's 27. not 35. If Toronto is lucky to keep him for his entire career, they still have another 9 more years of going for it and winning.

He shown great strides playing a well rounded game, probably his best season as a two way centerman, now he needs to score a bit more in the playoffs.

We have to have some concern about his health ... again.

Lindros or Forsberg?

 

[rumman]

I don't think there's any argument to be made for trading a 1C, who averages 45goals per season. This fanbase is very spoiled and forgets how every team wants a big 1C who plays great in his own end as well.

Guy’s not a leader least of all captain material, true leaders don’t throw their teammates under the bus by calling them passengers when the captain himself was the metropass king for five playoff seasons…….

 

[rumman]

We have to have some concern about his health ... again.

Lindros or Forsberg?

He definitely has heart issues…….

 

[Nineteen67]

He definitely has heart issues…….

As far as we know his heart and mind are fine. His issues are with his feet. The whole team to needs to work on speed and quickness in the off season.

 

[Menzinger]

Bobby McMann to Vegas for William Karlsson. This assumes they want to make a significant add in UFA and need cap space.

Kreider could probably be had for nothing... maybe push David Kampf the other way with a mid-round pick.

I can see McMann being added to either Cowan or Danford for that type of trade, especially if the team wants to bring in their 2C that way..there's also Florida's 2nd round pick that may get thrown in the trade mix

 

[Dreakmur]

I can see McMann being added to either Cowan or Danford for that type of trade, especially if the team wants to bring in their 2C that way..there's also Florida's 2nd round pick that may get thrown in the trade mix

There's no reason to pay a premium for players that other teams want to unload. Call their bluff and move on.

 

[Americanadian]

I can see McMann being added to either Cowan or Danford for that type of trade, especially if the team wants to bring in their 2C that way..there's also Florida's 2nd round pick that may get thrown in the trade mix

I’m not sure 32YO Karlsson with 2 years left is the C you give up Cowan for.

I can’t even think of a C that would be available worth giving up Cowan for. If McTavish were available for some reason that would be a guy that makes sense packaging Cowan for.

 

[Apex Predator]

We’re not going to replace Marners offense with one player but it’s not about replacing his offense it’s about being more effective in the playoffs.

You can bring in multiple pieces that make the leafs still successful during the regular season but more effective in the playoffs.

 

[Ports]

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While he is not being bought out, and it isn't likely he'll waive, playing him on 2nd. pairing is probably about the same Cap Usage as buying him out and signing a $4mm defender in free agency.

He’s not good enough to play second pairing if they want to challenge for the cup. That’s the problem. He wouldn’t even dress on a true cup contender.

 

[Ports]

Signing Bennett is like an addition by subtraction. He may not worth 10 mil if he plays for us, but when he plays for the panthers, he's worth 15 mil because he can get away with injuring the other team's goalie or top players without facing any consequences. He can't do the same in Toronto, but at least he won't be able to take out our goalie in the playoffs.

Most ideally, some team in the West signs him for 10+ mil. But most likely he'll just stay in Florida for 8 mil (tax-free state) and all the talks about him going to free agency is just for his negotiation.

He’s leading the playoffs in goals and is Florida’s best player. He’s not just a goon although he’s dirty as heck.

 

[Brown Dog]

Everyone will make him a similar offer.

Why would he chose Toronto?

AI says this is why: No, Brad Marchand did not grow up a Habs fan. He stated that he grew up a Toronto Maple Leafs fan. He has even said that he enjoys playing against the Leafs and interacting with their fans.

Would not be against it, however Karma has eyes on him ...

If our offer is competitive, I could see him being intrigued by the opportunity. He's got nothing left to accomplish.

 

[Maple Leaf]

 

[OVO16]

If the Panthers can trade Evan Rodrigues, will they be able to bring back Bennet, Marchand, and Ekblad? Assuming they all take a slight pay cut?

I think Bennett and Ekblad returning to florida is set in stone as it gets. Those guys dont want to leave. I just don't know if they can fit Marchand in

 

[OVO16]

How much money do we save if we waive/buyout both Jarnkrok and Kampf

 

[ULF_55]

This is pretty much I think the play, if Toronto wanted to salvage some assets from this "DNA change". Trade Nylander and resign Marner.

How does that change the DNA?

That reinforces the DNA, as Berube said marner and Matthews run the show.

 

[The Shadow]

It’s funny that we got the rights to Rodrigues a few years back. And of course Dubas messed that up as well

 

[hockeywiz542]

How much money do we save if we waive/buyout both Jarnkrok and Kampf

Two Maple Leafs Veterans Reportedly ‘Under Consideration’ to Be Cut - Athlon Sports

Jarnkrok, 33, appeared in just 19 games this season due to injury. He scored one goal and scored six assists. The center carries a $2.1 million cap hit and has one year left on his contract.

Buying out Jarnkrok would save the Leafs $516,667 next season while adding a $258,333 penalty in 2026-27.

Fellow center Kampf, 30, has two years remaining on his contract with a $2.4 million annual cap hit. He played only one game in the postseason after being a healthy scratch in the first round, finishing the regular season with 13 points in 59 games.

A buyout would yield $716,667 in cap savings in each of the next two years, but would also result in a $358,333 cap charge in 2027–28 and 2028–29.

 

[hamzarocks]

I’m not sure 32YO Karlsson with 2 years left is the C you give up Cowan for.

I can’t even think of a C that would be available worth giving up Cowan for. If McTavish were available for some reason that would be a guy that makes sense packaging Cowan for.

Cowan should be used to add a top pairing D prospect(ceiling) more than 2C.

Korchinski+, Nemec (leafs add), Zellewger (1 for 1) more than a 2C. A 2C we should be able to get via UFA easier than a top pairing D profile player like the above.

Nylander should be good enough to play with a 45-50 pt center and turn them into a 55-65 pt 2C.

The leafs get a true top pairing potential d-man, makes a rielly deal more feasible next summer too depending on how his and the Leafs season goes

 

[Torontonian]

How does that change the DNA?

That reinforces the DNA, as Berube said marner and Matthews run the show.

Marner is the only one that needs to go for the DNA to change? You're getting rid of a core piece, that's the DNA change. At least this way, if you do trade Nylander and resign Marner, you're not letting go a 95-100 point winger for free.

Toronto botched this entire situation by not trading him 2 years ago, at the very least they can salvage some of it by getting players/assets back for Nylander.

 

[The Shadow]

Marner is the only one that needs to go for the DNA to change? You're getting rid of a core piece, that's the DNA change. At least this way, if you do trade Nylander and resign Marner, you're not letting go a 95-100 point winger for free.

Toronto botched this entire situation by not trading him 2 years ago, at the very least they can salvage some of it by getting players/assets back for Nylander.

Agreed. How do you let a 100 point 20 something player walk for nothing???

 

[Torontonian]

Agreed. How do you let a 100 point 20 something player walk for nothing???

Honestly, even if they let him walked for nothing and had something lined up or had an ability to replace him, It would be okay. But with this poor UFA class, and lack of premium trade assets, it feels like they were not prepared for the situation at all, probably thought they'd be able to resign him and go from there.